>>> WELCOME TO ANOTHER EDITION OF SHOW ME POLITICS
WITH PAUL BERRY III.
I AM THE MISSOURI PEOPLE'S LOBBYIST.
I'M JOINED BY MY COHOST, THE WONDERFUL STACY WASHINGTON.
>> HEY, PAUL.
HOW'S IT GOING?
>> I'M DOING ALL RIGHT.
LET'S DIVE INTO STACY'S HOT TOPIC.
WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON THIS WEEK?
WHAT YOU LOOKING INTO?
>> WELL, WHAT'S FANTASTIC IS MY OP-ED FOR THIS WEEK
FOR THE ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH
IS ABOUT THE ST. LOUIS CITY SCHOOLS,
NOW THEY'RE REACCREDITED AND NOW WE NEED TO TRANSITION OUT OF
THAT SPECIAL APPOINTED BOARD AND BACK INTO SOME LOCAL CONTROL.
>> OKAY, SO WHEN YOU SAY SPECIAL BOARD,
FOR SOME THAT ARE NOT IN THE AREA,
ISN'T IT TRUE THAT WE HAVE A BOARD THAT'S
APPOINTED BY THE STATE, A THREE MEMBER BOARD,
AND THEN YOU HAVE A BOARD THAT'S ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE.
>> RIGHT.
>> WHICH BOARD IS IN CONTROL NOW
AND WHICH BOARD SHOULD BE IN CONTROL?
>> WELL, THE SPECIAL APPOINTED BOARD IS THE THREE MEMBER BOARD.
THEY'RE IN CONTROL RIGHT NOW AND HAVE BEEN SINCE 2007.
THE ELECTED BOARD IS SEVEN MEMBERS, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW,
FOUR YEAR TERM SO EVERY FOUR YEARS THOSE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE
EITHER BEEN REELECTED OR HAVE BEEN REPLACED.
THE NEXT ELECTION FOR THEM IS IN APRIL AND RIGHT AFTER THAT,
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK INTO SOME TRANSITIONAL PLANNING
TO TRY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY GIVE CONTROL
BACK TO THE ELECTED BOARD, BUT THERE'S A LITTLE CAVEAT.
LAST SUMMER, THE MISSOURI SCHOOL BOARDS, THE OVER-ARCHING BOARD
OVER THE WHOLE STATE GAVE THE SPECIAL APPOINTED BOARD
UNTIL 2019.
>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- AND I'M SORRY --
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MATRIX.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF
ST. LOUIS HAVE ELECTED A SCHOOL BOARD?
>> YES.
>> THE STATE HAS COME IN AND APPOINT THEIR OWN SCHOOL BOARD.
>> WHEN THEY BECAME UNACCREDITED IN 2007.
>> WHEN THEY BECAME UNACCREDITED.
NOW THEY HAVE ACCREDITATION --
>> JUST GOT IT BACK IN JANUARY.
>> -- BUT WE STILL HAVE THE STATE BOARD IN CHARGE OF
THE CITY SCHOOLS?
>> RIGHT.
SO WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS OBVIOUSLY I DO BELIEVE
IN LOCAL CONTROL.
I WAS AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.
I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO INTERFACE WITH THE PEOPLE
IN YOUR DISTRICT, TO BE BEHOLDING TO THOSE TAXPAYERS.
IT'S A REALLY GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
THERE'S A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY THERE,
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE'S CHILDREN
AND THEIR MONEY.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE OF THE DISTRICT BEING SO LARGE
AND HAVING SO MANY ISSUES AND HOW LONG IT TOOK FOR THEM
TO GO FROM UNACCREDITED TO PROVISIONALLY ACCREDITED
AND NOW TO ACCREDITED.
SO I'M RECOMMENDING IN MY OP-ED THAT THEY TAKE IT SLOW
AND ACTUALLY DO A LONGER TRANSITION AS OPPOSED TO
A SHORTER ONE AND WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT IT
IS THE ELECTED BOARD HAS ALREADY CREATED A DOCUMENT,
A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT INCLUDES A TRANSITION PLAN
THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPOINTED BOARD ACTUALLY
KIND OF FOLLOW THAT, SO I THINK THEY SHOULD GET TOGETHER.
AFTER THE ELECTION, START HAVING SOME MEETINGS,
START MAKING SOME PLANS.
>> I DID A LITTLE BIT OF LOOKING INTO THIS,
AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE IS A STATUTORY PROVISION
THAT EXPLAINS WHAT THE NEXT PROCEDURES ARE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE MAKING IT UP AS THEY GO.
IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT?
>> WELL, SO THE MISSOURI STATUTES THAT COVER THIS
DO NOT ACTUALLY SAY YOU MUST DO THIS WHEN IT'S TIME TO
GO BACK TO THE ELECTED BOARD.
ACTUALLY, THE SUNSET ON IT IS 2007.
SORRY, 2008, BUT BECAUSE IT ALSO INCLUDES LANGUAGE THAT SAYS
"UNTIL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS REACCREDITED",
THEN IT CAN CONTINUE ON AS LONG AS THE STATE BOARD
REAUTHORIZES IT WHEN THEY COME TOGETHER TO VOTE.
>> SO WHAT DOES THE ELECTED BOARD ACTUALLY DO
OR DID THEY JUST GO THROUGH AN ELECTION AND THEY'RE JUST,
YOU KNOW, ELECTED AND THERE'S NO REAL FUNCTION?
>> THEY DON'T HAVE ANY POWER RIGHT NOW,
BUT THEY DO MEET AND HERE'S THE THING THAT I --
WHEN I WAS RESEARCHING AND READING I FOUND IT FASCINATING
AND A REAL SHOW OF DEDICATION.
AT NO POINT DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS HAVE THEY STOPPED
MEETING OR STOPPED PASSING RESOLUTIONS AND BEING BEHOLDING
TO THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT THEM.
SO EVERY FOUR YEARS THEY'RE ELECTED OR THEY RUN
AND THEY LOSE AND SO THEY'VE BEEN FUNCTIONING AS A BOARD
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE CONTROL TO FIRE THE SUPERINTENDENT
OR PASS POLICY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY'RE DYING TO GET BACK IN CHARGE OF THAT DISTRICT,
AND I KNOW WHY.
THEY'VE BEEN ELECTED AND THEY WANT TO SERVE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON ON THE HOME FRONT?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE WHOLE STATE OF THE STATE
FROM JUDGE PATRICIA BRECKENRIDGE.
>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT WAS THIS PAST WEEK.
>> YES, SO SHE'S SAYING DON'T TAKE GOVERNOR GREITENS'
STATEMENTS ON THE STATE OF THE JUDICIARY AND HIS DESIRE FOR
TORT REFORM TO MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SOUND
JUDICIAL SYSTEM IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
SHE SAYS IT IS SOUND,
AND WE DO HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE.
>> I KNOW IT'S SUNDAY,
BUT I'VE HEARD THE WORDS JUDICIAL HELL HOLE.
[laughing]
>> AND THAT COMES FROM A LEGAL JOURNAL.
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE AN ASSESSMENT ON THE COURTS.
THERE'S SOME VERY GOOD PEOPLE OVER AT THE SUPREME COURT
AND SOME VERY GOOD JUDGES THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
I THINK THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN MISSOURI,
IN MY PERSONAL OPINION,
I AM NO SUPPORTER OF THE MISSOURI PLAN.
WHY IS IT THAT AS A CITIZEN I CANNOT ELECT MY JUDGES
WHERE I'M AT?
WHY IS IT THE PLACES WHERE MOST AFRICAN AMERICANS LIVE
IN THE STATE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO ELECT THEIR JUDGES?
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS,
THERE'S NO ZIP CODE REQUIREMENT.
IT'S SOMETHING I TALKED TO MIKE PARSONS ABOUT OVER AT
THE CAPITAL EARLIER TODAY BUT OTHER THAN THAT,
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON?
>> NOTHING EXCEPT THIS IS OUR SECOND EPISODE.
>> AND I'M STOKED.
>> AND WE'RE KILLING IT.
>> YEAH.
>>> UP NEXT IS PAUL'S ONE ON ONE INTERVIEW WITH MISSOURI'S
NEWLY ELECTED LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MIKE PARSON.
>> STAY TUNED.
WE'LL BE BACK IN ONE MINUTE.
♪ ♪
>>> JOINING ME ON "SHOW ME POLITICS" WITH PAUL BERRY III
IS MISSOURI'S NEWLY ELECTED LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MIKE PARSON.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, HOW YOU DOING TODAY?
>> GOOD TO BE HERE TODAY.
>> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR PARSON,
INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE GREAT STATE OF MISSOURI.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND AND YOUR UPBRINGING.
>> WELL, THE QUICK VERSION IS I COME FROM SOUTHWEST MISSOURI.
I GREW UP ON A SMALL FARM,
I WAS THE YOUNGEST OF FOUR BOYS,
AND I WAS RAISED ON A FARM MOST OF MY LIFE
AND I STILL CONTINUE TO FARM AS A THIRD GENERATION FARMER.
I WAS A FORMER SHERIFF BACK HOME FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
I WAS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT ABOUT 22 YEARS.
SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND HAVE A WIFE, TWO CHILDREN,
FIVE GRAND KIDS,
AND JUST FORTUNATE TO LIVE HERE IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
>> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR PARSONS, YOU WERE RECENTLY AWARDED
THE CATTLEMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD
FROM MISSOURI CATTLEMEN'S ASSOCIATION.
I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD EXPLAIN TO SOME OF MY SUBURBAN
AND URBAN LISTENERS THROUGHOUT MISSOURI OF WHAT THE CHALLENGES
ARE FOR THE FARMING INDUSTRY IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL FOR THE VIEWERS,
WHEREVER YOU'RE AT ACROSS THE STATE,
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT AGRICULTURE
IS THE NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY IN THIS STATE.
NO MATTER WHETHER WE'RE IN KANSAS CITY, ST. LOUIS,
SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURI, OR BOLIVER, MISSOURI, MY HOMETOWN,
THERE'S ONE THING I DO KNOW ABOUT MISSOURIANS,
THEY ALL LIKE TO EAT,
AND AGRICULTURE IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT REALLY IS
THE HEART AND SOUL OF WHO WE ARE IN MISSOURI.
OVER MY TIME AS A LEGISLATOR,
I'VE DID EVERYTHING I CAN TO PROTECT AGRICULTURE,
EVEN TO THE POINT OF MAKING THE FARMING AMENDMENT
TO PUT IN THE CONSTITUTION WHERE NOBODY COULD TAKE THAT RIGHT
AWAY BECAUSE IT CREATES A LOT OF JOBS.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WORKING IN AGRICULTURE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT TO ME,
I'M HONORED TO WIN SOME OF THE ASSOCIATION'S AWARDS
THAT I'VE RECEIVED AND I'M PROUD TO BE
THE CATTLEMAN OF THE YEAR FOR THE MISSOURI CATTLEMEN
ASSOCIATION AND TO GET THE AWARD FOR THE CORN GROWER.
>> I'M INTERESTED IN ESTABLISHING A MISSOURI
DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS SYSTEM THAT GIVES LONGER SENTENCES
TO PEOPLE THAT COMMIT VIOLENT AND SEXUAL OFFENSES,
AND I'M LOOKING AT ESTABLISHING A BOOT CAMP SYSTEM
FOR YOUNG ADULTS, THEIR NONVIOLENT FIRST TIME OFFENDERS
TO SORT OF PROTECT THEM FROM THE COLLATERAL EFFECTS OF A FELONY
AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO REHABILITATE THEMSELVES.
WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ON THE SUBJECT?
>> WELL, I THINK -- WELL, ONE THING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
A WHOLE DIFFERENT SUBJECT
BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CORRECTIONS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW,
I'M A HUGE BELIEVER IN ALTERNATIVE SENTENCING,
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU ARE A CONVICTED FELON
AND A REPEAT OFFENDER, THEN I'M ALL FOR GETTING YOU
LOCKED UP AND BE WHERE YOU NEED TO BE AND AWAY FROM SOCIETY
WHERE YOU CAN DO NO MORE HARM.
BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH
THE PRISON SYSTEM ANYMORE.
I THINK THERE IS ALTERNATIVE SENTENCES THAT WE CAN USE
TO PUT PEOPLE BACK INTO SOCIETY AND TRY TO GET THEM BACK INTO
A WORK FORCE MORE IMPORTANTLY WHERE THEY DO SERVE A PURPOSE
AS A CITIZEN IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI
AND NOT A LIFE OF CRIME.
SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A SUPPORTER OF ALTERNATIVE SENTENCING.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE SENTENCING
PROGRAMS THAT WORK, THAT TRULY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMEONE
SO THAT THEY CAN EXCEL AND MAYBE HELP THEM WITH THEIR EDUCATION,
MAYBE HELP THEM WITH JOB TRAINING
SO THEY CAN BE PRODUCTIVE IN SOCIETY.
>> ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT YOUR POSITION THERE.
AS YOU KNOW, I'M A HUGE SECOND AMENDMENT SUPPORTER,
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE AS WELL.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROTECT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN URBAN AREAS
AND RURAL AREAS THROUGHOUT MISSOURI?
>> WELL, HONESTLY THE SECOND AMENDMENT HASN'T CHANGED
SINCE IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS FOR ONE PURPOSE ONLY.
BASICALLY IT WAS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE COULD
PROTECT THEMSELVES AGAINST GOVERNMENT.
THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINATION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS FOR.
NOW IT'S BEEN TWEAKED ON FOR YEARS AND TRIED TO BE CHANGED,
BUT LOOK, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI,
NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE,
NO MATTER WHAT THE ZIP CODE IS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE ALL HAVE THOSE RIGHTS, AND I THINK
WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IS WHERE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES,
AGAIN, WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP TO PROTECT YOU FROM,
START HAVING THEIR OWN ORDINANCES
WHETHER IT BE THE CITIES, WHETHER IT BE THE COUNTIES
AND RESTRICTING A BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT
OF THE CONSTITUTION.
SO OVER THE YEARS I'VE WORKED WITH LEGISLATION TO PROTECT
THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT
BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION,
AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD
WE CAN TO PROTECT THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
>> I'M A BIG BELIEVER THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU LIVE AT
IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS, WHETHER IT'S THE FIRST AMENDMENT,
WHETHER IT'S THE SECOND AMENDMENT,
OR WHETHER IT'S THE SECOND AMENDMENT,
WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.
THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS HAS DECIDED THAT
THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO PASS LEGISLATION TO BAN SOME
LONG BARREL RIFLES SUCH AS THE AR15
NOT ONLY FROM OWNERSHIP BUT EVEN FROM DISPLAY.
I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHETHER THAT'S CONSTITUTIONAL
AND WHETHER THAT'S A PROPER DIRECTION FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT
TO GET INVOLVED IN.
>> I DO NOT SUPPORT MUNICIPALITIES WHEN THEY TRY TO
TAKE THE LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS BY PASSING ORDINANCES
THAT GO DIRECTLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DO AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL,
YOU TAKE THAT OATH TO PROTECT THAT CONSTITUTION
AND IT'S ALL OUR OBLIGATION TO DO THAT.
AND THAT OATH EXTENDS RIGHT DOWN TO CITIES AND COUNTIES
AND MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE THEY TOOK AN OATH TO TAKE OFFICE TOO,
JUST LIKE I DID.
BUT ONE OF THOSE OATHS IS TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION,
AND I'M GONNA DO THAT AND I'M GONNA PROTECT
THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
>> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, ONE FINAL QUESTION--
YOUR FOUR YEAR TERM COMES ON THE HEELS OF ONE OF
THE MOST PROLIFIC REPUBLICANS OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES,
FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR PETER KINDER.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR KINDER ALWAYS KEPT AN OPEN DOOR POLICY
WITH CONSERVATIVE MINORITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE
AND HAS BRIDGED A GAP BETWEEN SUBURBAN AND URBAN MISSOURI
AND THE JEFF CITY REPUBLICAN CAUCUS.
CAN I GET YOUR COMMITMENT TO CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK
THAT HE'S DONE?
>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE ANY DOUBT THAT I'M GONNA DO
MY BEST TO FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF WHAT LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR KINDER DID AS FAR AS WORKING WITH THE MINORITIES
IN THIS STATE AND TRYING TO BRIDGE THAT GAP
BETWEEN URBAN AND RURAL.
I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A LONG TIME AND, YOU KNOW,
THE ONE THING YOU REALIZE AT THE END OF THE DAY,
FOR MISSOURI TO BE SUCCESSFUL, IT'S NOT ABOUT URBAN,
IT'S NOT ABOUT RURAL MISSOURI,
IT'S NOT ABOUT SPRINGFIELD, IT'S NOT ABOUT COLUMBIA,
IT'S NOT ABOUT KANSAS CITY, IT'S NOT ABOUT ST. LOUIS.
IT'S ABOUT THE ENTIRE STATE.
FOR MISSOURI TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE NEED ALL SEGMENTS OF THE
STATE TO DO WELL, AND ST. LOUIS PLAYS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE
IN THAT, THE BIG URBAN AREAS DO, AND I'M GONNA DO MY PART.
I WANT TO BE IN THOSE URBAN AREAS, AND I WANT TO TRY TO BE
ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT MAYBE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF HELP
OR MAYBE JUST NEEDS A HAND UP, NOT A HAND OUT.
THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO IMPROVE THEIR LIVES,
AND I'M GONNA DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO HELP AND HOPEFULLY
TO FIND THAT THAT SUPPORT IS THE SAME AS WHAT
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR KINDER DID IN THOSE URBAN AREAS.
>> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, THANKS FOR COMING ON
AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE
A GREAT ADVOCATE, NOT ONLY WITH THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS
BUT IN AREAS THAT MAY NOT HAVE REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATION.
YOU'RE A GREAT SUPPORTER OF OUR BOYS IN BLUE
AND YOU'RE ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF A THING CALLED COMMON SENSE
AND THOSE THINGS GO HAND IN HAND WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
THANKS.
>> GLAD TO BE HERE.
THANKS FOR THE INTERVIEW TODAY.
>> NEXT UP WE HAVE JENNIFER BUKOWSKY,
ATTORNEY FROM COLUMBIA, MISSOURI, TRUMP DELEGATE,
AND SHE WILL GIVE US THE INSIDE ON THE INAUGURATION BALL
AND THE WOMEN'S MARCH.
SEE YOU IN A COUPLE MINUTES.
♪ ♪
>>> NEXT UP IS COLUMBIA ATTORNEY JENNIFER BUKOWSKY.
HEY, JEN, HOW YOU DOING?
>> GREAT, PAUL.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO, JENNIFER, YOU'RE FRESH HOME FROM THE TRUMP
INAUGURATIONAL ACTIVITIES.
DID YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME?
>> I DID.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON MY BUCKET LIST TO GO TO A BIG FANCY BALL
IN D.C. SO WHEN I WOKE UP THE MORNING AFTER THE ELECTION,
STUNNED LIKE MANY AMERICANS AT THE RESULTS,
I DECIDED IT WAS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT OFF
MY BUCKET LIST, AND WE HAD A GREAT TIME.
IT WAS GRAND.
>> HOW DID YOU GET INVOLVED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL DELEGATE
PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO BECOME A DELEGATE
AND THE PUSH FOR THAT POSITION?
>> WELL, I ACTUALLY GOT INTERESTED IN BECOMING
A DELEGATE BECAUSE I WAS EARLY ON,
I DIDN'T HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO BE ON THE TRUMP TRAIN.
I WAS RAND PAUL'S BIGGEST FAN GIRL AND THERE WAS A CONCERN
THAT THE CONVENTION WOULD BE CONTESTED
AND I WANTED TO BE THERE BECAUSE I LIKE TO FIGHT
AND I WANTED TO HAVE RAND PAUL'S BACK SHOULD IT BE CONTESTED,
BUT I DID END UP BEING A TRUMP DELEGATE
AND BY THE END OF THE CONVENTION, A TRUE TRUMP CONVERT
SO IT WAS AN HONOR TO GET TO SERVE AS A TRUMP DELEGATE.
>> JENNIFER, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I ASKED YOU PERSONALLY
TO COME ON TO DISCUSS THE WOMEN'S MARCH IS YOU KNOW,
YOU RUN A LAW FIRM, YOU'RE HEAD PARTNER OF YOUR FIRM,
AND YOU'RE DEFINITELY SOMEBODY THAT SUPPORTS WOMEN'S RIGHTS,
AND YOU AND I HAVE DEFINITELY HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS
ON THAT IN THE PAST.
BUT I JUST WANT TO GET YOUR OPINION ON THE WOMEN'S MARCH
SINCE YOU HAPPENED TO BE IN D.C.
WHAT DID YOU SEE THAT MAYBE I DIDN'T SEE OR DID OR DIDN'T SEE
IN THE MEDIA COVERAGE?
>> I WAS SURPRISED BY SOME OF THE PROTESTERS I SAW
BECAUSE WHEN I DECIDED TO BOOK A TRIP TO D.C. TO ATTEND
THE INAUGURATION AND THE BALL,
I HAD TO BOOK A MINIMUM TWO NIGHT NONREFUNDABLE STAY
SO I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT AS BEING A HOTEL
THAT WOULD BE FILLED WITH PROTESTERS, BUT IT WAS.
I WOKE UP SATURDAY MORNING TO FIND THE HOTEL LOBBY
OF THE MARRIOTT MARQUEE IN DOWNTOWN D.C.
FILLED WITH WELL HEELED WHITE LADIES WEARING PINK HATS.
THERE WAS A VERY FESTIVE ATMOSPHERE AMONG THEM
LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO VEGAS TO MISBEHAVE AND BE NAUGHTY
AND THEN ALSO FROM SOME OF THEM I SENSED A SENSE OF HAUGHTINESS,
YOU KNOW, SMUG SUPERIORITY LIKE THEY WERE ABOVE THE PEOPLE
THAT WERE THERE FOR TRUMP, AND YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THAT
THOSE LADIES JUST GOT THEIR CLOCKS CLEANED
IN THE LAST ELECTION FROM THE WAY THEY WERE BEHAVING.
>> SO, JENNIFER, WHERE DOES, YOU KNOW, CAVEMAN LIKE MYSELF
AND THE REST OF MISSOURI, WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING WOMEN'S RIGHTS?
I WASN'T A BIG SUPPORTER OF THE MARCH,
BUT THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER OPTION.
>> I THINK JUST BROADLY, AMERICA WASN'T BUILT BY POLITICIANS.
IT WAS BUILT BY WORKERS, BY INNOVATORS, BY ENTREPRENEURS,
THAT'S WHAT'S MADE US GREAT, AND WE NEED PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF
GOVERNMENT THAT UNDERSTANDS THAT THEIR ROLE IS TO JUST
STAND ASIDE AND ASSIST AND LET THEM DO THEIR JOB
SO THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR COUNTRY GREAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT POLITICIANS THAT ARE GONNA SAVE US.
WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES.
WE NEED THE GOVERNMENT TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.
AND WHEN THE ECONOMY PROSPERS, WOMEN BENEFIT TOO,
THE ECONOMY IS A WOMAN'S ISSUE
AND SO I THINK THAT IS THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE WE NEED
TO HAVE IS WE'RE IN THIS AS A REPUBLICANS,
WE'RE IN A PUT UP OR SHUT UP MOMENT.
WE NEED TO GET REGULATIONS DECREASED,
WE NEED TO GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE WAY OF OUR ECONOMY
THRIVING, AND THEN WOMEN EVERYWHERE WILL BENEFIT
WHEN THAT OCCURS.
>> JENNIFER, THANKS FOR COMING ON.
NEXT UP IS PAUL BERRY III'S POLITICAL MATRIX.
WE'LL BE BACK.
♪ ♪
>>> IT'S NOW TIME FOR PAUL BERRY III'S POLITICAL MATRIX.
THIS SEGMENT IS DEDICATED TO DEVELOPING PUBLIC SOLUTIONS
FOR ALL MISSOURIANS.
SO, PAUL, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR POLITICAL CRYSTAL BALL?
>> I SEE AN ALL OUT GORILLA WARFARE BETWEEN TRIAL LAWYERS
AND THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS WITH THE SUPREME COURT
SORT OF FALLING IN THE MIDDLE.
OBVIOUSLY IN TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT
BEFORE WITH THE MISSOURI PLAN,
YOU REALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE A CIRCUIT
LEVEL JUDGE AND BECAUSE I LIVE IN A CERTAIN ZIP CODE,
I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR MY JUDGE,
AND I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM.
MANY WILL SAY THAT YOU DON'T WANT ELECTIONS
WITHIN THE JUDICIARY.
WELL, WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER,
SO WE NEED TO FIND A SYSTEM.
WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES ME --
THE FACT THAT I LIVE INSIDE THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
AND THE MISSOURI RIVER THAT I HAVE LESS RIGHTS
REGARDING THAT, AND I THINK THAT ACCOUNTABILITY
IS LOST WHEN THERE IS NO JUDGE.
THIS IS THE ARGUMENT THEY SAY TO ME ALL THE TIME, STACY.
THEY SAY, "WELL, WE HAVE A RETENTION ELECTION."
WELL, WHY IS IT THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF JUDGES
THROUGHOUT THE STATE, 60% VOTE FOR THE JUDGES,
40% VOTE AGAINST THE JUDGES.
THERE WAS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE,
FORMER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE THAT WAS AT A BAR CONVENTION,
AND HE WAS ABSOLUTELY DISMAYED AT THE DISAPPROVAL LEVELS
OF THE JUDGES.
AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, WELL, IF THEY'RE ALL ABOUT
WITHIN 40%, ONLY ONE JUDGE HAS EVER BEEN NOT CONFIRMED
THROUGH THIS RETENTION ELECTION.
THAT IS ONE ISSUE.
SECOND ISSUE IS TORT REFORM.
I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE COURTS.
I THINK THE REFORM NEEDS TO GO IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE ACTUAL CAPS ON LAWSUITS
REGARDING MINORITIES.
BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER DISCRIMINATION,
LET'S SAY FOR GENDER, THOSE CAPS DON'T EXIST.
I DON'T THINK THE REFORM NEEDS TO JUST COME FROM
WHAT'S BEING SOLD.
I THINK THAT WE NEED WHOLESALE REFORM IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR COURTS.
>> WELL, SO YOU SAW THE OP-ED BY TONY MESSENGER.
HE FEELS THAT NO REFORM IS NEEDED BECAUSE HE NAMED OFF
A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL CASES AFFECTING REAL MISSOURIANS
WHO HAD MEDICAL MALPRACTICE AND HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN
TO THESE PEOPLE AND HE'S SAYING UNDER REFORM,
THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS TO BE COMPENSATED THAT
THEY HAVE NOW AND HE BASICALLY WAS TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
>> WELL, COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CIVIL SUIT,
THERE'S REALLY TWO PURPOSES--
ONE, TO MAKE THE OTHER PARTY WHOLE
AND THE SECONDARY EFFECT OF IT IS TO STOP BAD ACTORS
BECAUSE IF YOU GET SUED FOR $100 MILLION,
I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE YOUR POLICIES.
>> WON'T DO THAT AGAIN.
>> EXACTLY.
BUT THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE FORGET.
MOST LARGE BUSINESSES ARE GONNA STAY IN BUSINESS.
THEY HAVE INSURANCE.
THOSE INSURANCE COSTS ARE GONNA TOUCH EVERY SINGLE PERSON
WHEN YOU HAVE JUDGMENTS LIKE THAT.
SO IF SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER DIES AND THERE WAS MALPRACTICE,
I THINK THERE IS A COMPENSATION FACTOR THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
THERE, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD JUST BE UNLIMITED.
I THINK THERE HAS TO BE REASONS TO EVERYTHING.
THE DIFFICULT PART IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BABY,
HOW DO YOU PUT A VALUE ON A KID?
THAT'S SOMETHING I DEFINITELY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.
I KNOW YOU DO TOO.
>> THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE WAYS OF DOING THAT.
>> YEAH, CALLED ACTUARIES.
>> YEAH.
THEY HAVE THE TABLES, THEY PLUG YOU INTO THE TABLE
AND THAT'S HOW MUCH YOUR LIFE IS WORTH.
THIS IS A THING.
>> BUT THE BOTTOM LINE, STACY, IS THERE IS A LARGE PROBLEM
THAT SEEMS TO REALLY HAPPEN WITHIN THE CORRIDORS
WHERE JUDGES DON'T HAVE TO BE ELECTED
AND DOESN'T MEAN THE JUDGES ARE BAD JUDGES,
BECAUSE I'VE MET GREAT JUDGES.
I MEAN, THERE'S ONES THAT ARE DOING THE PEOPLE'S WORK.
BUT AS FAR AS ME BEING A CITIZEN,
I'M STANDING UP TO THE FACT THAT MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
WHEN IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION OR IT'S A PROVISION
THAT'S PROVIDED BY OUR LEGAL SYSTEM,
HAS TO BE UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE STATE
OR WE DON'T HAVE A STATE.
>> THAT'S SOMETHING --
>> ST. LOUIS SHOULD BE PART OF ILLINOIS
OR SHOULD BE ITS OWN STATE
IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR.
>> WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M HOPING PEOPLE IN JEFF CITY
ARE WATCHING THE SHOW AND THEY'RE GONNA KNOW
JUST HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS.
>> AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS SUNDAY.
TO SEE CLIPS FROM THIS OR ANY OTHER EPISODE OF
"SHOW ME POLITICS" WITH PAUL BERRY III,
PLEASE VISIT SHOWMEPOLITICSTV.COM.
THANK YOU, HAVE A GREAT WORK WEEK,
AND SEE YOU NEXT SUNDAY.
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