- We originally started the Stuff I Never Knew videos
and we were gonna really stick to wheels, tires,
suspension, that kind of stuff.
What we're realizing is that more and more
people are asking, you guys also do a bunch
of other stuff over at Offsets Garage, which is
our local shop, so can you share more about that?
And I think they saw the Lamborghini that we did
last winter, about a year ago and we had the wrap
on there so we had a lot of questions around that.
And now we just got done wrapping our GRXR.
And Charlie, out customer service guy, he just got
his car wrapped and we've been getting a lot of
wrap questions, we're seeing a lot of wrap
questions out there and we figured since we're
pretty much wrapping everything these days,
we should share at least what we knew so this is
just our opinions, this is even more so my opinion,
I've been talking about it with Banker, Fuller, some
of the other guys.
Here's where we're at.
We call it Paint Is Dead because back in the day,
you would have taken this bike, you would have
stripped it down of all of it's parts, decided
what you want to get painted, have to deal with
what's going on with the fuel tank,
probably empty it out, whatnot,
bring it all over to a paint shop,
have everything scuffed down or done some
sort of promoter to get it to stick to the plastic,
have all of this painted and then reassemble it
to basically change the color of a bike.
Now what can happen, is you can spend,
it should be right around a thousand bucks,
fifteen-hundred bucks depending on what you pick.
They don't take a lot of this apart.
A lot of this was done on the bike, because it's
actually easier to wrap and bend.
And you get the same look, but now all of
this could be undone and the factory parts
are still underneath there.
So, this is completely wrapped.
We had the plasti dip, this is a really rough,
weird piece of plastic that doesn't want
anything to stick to it, it would have been a pain
to paint as well, so that one you basically have
to dip into the old plasti to do little sections.
But it still blends in well.
The whole bike is now white.
Underneath here is black and charcoal GSXR 600.
Lamborghini same thing, this is a
silver 2004 Lamborghini Gallardo.
Back in the day, they had this big, crazy, red,
bright red taillight.
It's now got a smoked tint over it and then
went back over it with a matte, clear vinyl
which basically took any gloss away and just
made it flat matte like the rest of the car.
And then we even took at the top of the taillight
and covered up part of that taillight so that
it creates a new taillight half the size.
Which is more of the new styling of the newer Gallardo.
So that's another example.
Doing this with paint would have been really complex,
really time consuming and it would have
cost a lot of money.
So, the first thing that we really want to
talk about it cost.
So you're right around 1,000, 1,500 bucks for a bike.
Probably around $4,000 for the Lamborghini.
I don't even wanna know what a paint job
change would be on this.
I believe it's 10 to 15, 20,000 if you get carried away.
But at least 10 to 15,000.
Same thing with the Mini Cooper.
A fluorescent, iridescent, whatever you wanna call it,
pearl, fluorescent paint like this, would
have cost a fortune to do on this entire car.
Now this one, I'll show you some of the details,
it still does run right around 5, 6,000 dollars.
Because of the amount of detail and
the different techniques that they used,
and I'll get into those.
But still, I believe it would have cost
more to paint it and then that's the color it is.
So if you decide to get out of this vehicle,
it's yours to keep that color or try to sell it that color.
One of the biggest things I ran into when I
decided I was gonna do the Gallardo, is trying to
figure out how long does this stuff last?
I don't wanna put a wrap on it and have it fade out
and be a different color or turn bright pink
over time with the sun or something like that.
And I've got a matte black roof on it.
I didn't want that to bake in the sun and
turn into like a weird faded gray.
So that's one of things I asked is the longevity of it.
If you do keep this outside, and it's a daily,
a believe it's three to five years.
Depending on the vinyl company, they'll have
their warranties so you can check into that.
But it's right around the three to five year
time frame before it starts to get dry.
But you do have to take care of it,
you do have to maintain it.
And taking care of it is basically using
the approved detailers that you can use
on the matter or the gloss.
Matte, glossy, gloss finishes.
So they have a specific detailer you're supposed
to use that really works well and doesn't
dry out the vinyl.
The other one I hear all this time
is can you do it yourself?
And I'm like everybody else, I'll try
everything on my own and see how I do.
I did an absolutely terrible job, I would
not recommend ever doing anything beyond
the 24 inch custom offset windshield decal yourself.
Because we tried it, we were just trying to
do the large camouflage looking print on a Subaru.
It was a disaster.
One of the things is you have to use vinyl wrap
material, you can't just can't just grab some
vinyl and start cutting it and throwing it on there.
It's not the same material.
This is much stretchier.
Heat and steam are a big deal when you're
trying to wrap around curves and trying to
get it to form like this.
Another big thing is trying to get the vinyl
to stick underneath, so that it grabs because you
can't just cut along these lines,
everything's tucked in and underneath,
or taken apart, tucked in underneath
and then reassembled.
So, it is complex and if you ever want
to practice, I would grab a small piece,
give it a shot and then you will most likely
throw that away, the small sample that you
bought on eBay, and you will go to a
professional and have them do it.
That's the point that we're at.
We have someone that we have come in,
that's been doing our wraps, we worked
with AutoTrim on a need on this one and,
what was the name of the company here?
Is it right on it?
- [Man] It's on the back window.
- So, stickerdude.com down in Milwaukee did this one.
Did an absolutely stellar job.
- [Man] Chicago.
- Chicago.
He kept going past Milwaukee to Chicago and
that's where stickerdude.com is.
And he did this one, turned out absolutely killer.
It's all about the professionals,
these guys that have the experience and have
the training do such a better job than the DIY.
I just don't think that this is something
that should be a DIY.
Because you're gonna see lots of bubbles,
you're gonna see lots of tearing, stretching,
weird wrinkling where you've overheated
or overstretched it.
If you wanna do it yourself, go ahead.
Maybe you're really good at it and
maybe it will be your next, new dream job,
is putting vinyl on but we found that
it's not one of those things that
we should jump into.
You're either good at it or you're not.
The other one Fuller wanted me to talk
about was easier to change, so when I
did the Gallardo like this, I thought,
hey this is cool, I'll just change the
color of it every summer.
Well then I realized it was about $4,000
to do so I said, well maybe every few summers.
And then I decided one day I was gonna take it off
and maybe sell the car so I started looking at
what the price would be to sell it.
It was I believe about $1,000 just to have it removed.
And the reason is, this car was completely
disassembled so these louvers were all pulled
off of here, the entire engine cover was pulled off here,
the spoiler was pulled off, all the emblems were removed.
The taillights, all of the blinkers, the headlights,
everything was pulled off the car to wrap it.
And that's so that you get all of the wrap
tucked in and around, underneath the corners,
and really get a perfect finish on the car.
Well all of that's gonna come back apart,
if you wanna take it apart.
And things like the mirrors coming off
means you have to pull the inner door panels off
and on an '04, it's 13 year old plastic,
you start having plastic clips break,
you've gotta replace some plastic and some pieces.
It's gonna be all of $1,000 to remove that.
So it is easier than paint to change,
but don't think that you're just gonna peel
it off like a sticker and you're good to go.
It's also gonna leave behind a residue that
you have to remove from the paint.
And sometimes what will happen on a really
old vehicle that's starting to have a,
the clear coat is starting to loosen up,
or whatever you wanna call it,
that glue on the vinyl will be stronger
than the adhesion to the paint and it will
actually take the clear coat with it.
So that was one of the things they warned me about,
even with a '04, with wrapping it is they have seen
when you leave it on there for a long time,
when you go to peel it, it takes the
clear coat with it.
Now you're against re-clearing the car.
So it's definitely easier to change than paint,
but it's not a rip off the sticker and go.
Now this one, I believe he did have it removed, right?
- [Man] Yes.
- Because he had this one wrapped some
other crazy color and they did remove it
when they put this new on one.
What's nice about that is you're taking
it apart to wrap it again anyways,
so he was able to just have it pulled off
and of course, get rid of all the glue and everything.
And then re-wrap it.
And if you're changing it, then you're saving money.
Because you've got it apart anyways.
One of the things that we wanna touch on
is it's all about the details.
If you look at the Mini Cooper,
he went in a vinyled inside of the S on the logos.
He went in and wrapped around the headlights,
on the bezels, to basically make sure that there's not
chrome sticking out of the front of that thing
or whatever color that is.
And like I said, on the Gallardo, we went in and
changed the look of the taillights,
we used it on the front to change
the look of the headlights.
It really gets down to thinking through
how you wanna wrap it, and then starting
to use it to kind of transform the vehicle too.
And those details start to cost money.
We also smoked out all of the front turn signals,
and, like I said, cut down on the headlights
and kind of hid the front turn signal a little bit,
don't tell anybody about that,
I believe that's not legal.
So, one of the things with vinyl is you're
allowed to not do the door jams, as we said.
When you do it, you can basically just
cut a clean line, and then have your door jam.
It's really nice when it matches your interior
because then it even looks intentional.
But when you go to paint, nobody's gonna accept this.
This is not okay.
But, the world has decided when it comes
to vinyl, it is okay.
Because if you go an try to vinyl all of this,
you basically end up with a nightmare slices,
in weird bends and angles.
And then you start having wear problems.
So, we haven't seen that it pays off
or it's worth it to vinyl those door jams.
And with this covering, it seems to be okay,
versus if you were to paint this,
you friends wouldn't even let you to the Walmart meet.
So, that's where vinyl versus paint
is a big difference when it comes to the door jam.
So, we painted the whole front chrome bumper on CO2.
But what happens is, when you're painting chrome
is it typically is difficult to get adhesion,
it's best to paint a paintable bumper but we
weren't in the position to do that,
so we painted over chrome.
Now what happens is, you have adhesion problems
and when you get a rock tip it with pop
and chunk of paint up.
So what we're actually gonna do with that,
and I wish we would have done it back then,
is right when you get it painted,
once it's all cured and everything,
you can actually go through and clear bra it,
so now you can put clear vinyl over it.
Or we could have in the first place,
just vinyled it white and never had to
deal with paint and the adhesion issues.
So that's an example where we're actually
gonna ue clear vinyl to go over the top and fix
our rock tip issue that we're seeing.
So we'll go through, clean it up,
and then clear vinyl it.
So, that is our version of Paint Is Dead.
And we just wanted to kind of talk about vinyl.
We've been using so much of it,
we thought we could share what we learned so far.
Why don't you guys hit us up with any questions
you have and we will answer them or come
back with a part two if there's enough
questions that warrants us going at it again.
You should see that we've made a video now,
on the plastied up from back in the day.
When we dipped the avalanche.
And then we did a video recently on
bed liner, because we've been doing a lot
of scorpion bed liner vehicles.
We've done a couple of those and they
were really happy with them, super durable.
And then this would be another option,
outside of paint.
Which would be vinyl wrap, which we've been
doing quite a bit of lately.
And we'll basically be able to do a durability
test and let you guys know how it went.
Right now, paints not making me very happy.
So I think Paint Is Dead also against powder coat.
Because it just doesn't hold up.
Especially if you're gonna go on gravel roads
and then blow rocks at it.
So, that is Paint Is Dead, vinyl is the bomb.
Peace!
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(beeping)
We all know that when you see a Lambo,
you wanna hear a Lambo, so we'll let it crack for you.
(car starting)
(revving up)
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