You're watching Vagabrothers.
Right now we're in Seoul, South Korea
about to speak to four thousand people.
Let's go.
We want to be able to share our
life experiences, and we think other
people might be able to
learn from as we learn.
This hotel is insane. This is really nice.
We've arrived at the hotel.
This is a beautiful place.
We're going to be here for the next couple days.
We're going to do some exploring around
the city, and then in a day, we will
be speaking about how to achieve
your dreams at the summit.
The idea behind this video is that we
are going to take you behind the scenes
as we go about this conference and
show you a bit about the experience.
It's a first for us, so it should
be pretty cool.
Stay tuned.
We've just been mic'ed,
and we're waiting for our turn to
run through the speech that we're
going to give tomorrow.
How are you feeling about the speech
right now?
I feel good about it.
We've practiced it a couple times,
not a lot, honestly, but.......
we've got another day.
I feel like a preacher........ And then
the Lord shone His light down upon me.
We finished the test run,
everything is going well.
No technical difficulties.
We've got the photos. Look at this
handsome guy right here.
Alex's cool face.
Me with my fedora hat, like always.
And now we're going to go to the hotel.
We've been treated very, very well
by the MBN-Y folks.
They've put us up in this sheila hotel here,
which is this gorgeous building,
and we get access to the top level,
which is the penthouse. Check it out.
It's pretty crazy to be here because
we got this email inviting us to Korea
probably six months ago,
and we've been meeting the people
who invited us who have watched
the channel and were really kind enough
to recommend us to their boss to
come out here to speak.
The topic is on how to follow your
dreams and how to make that a reality.
We haven't really told our story, per se.
We tell stories to you guys for a
living, but this will be totally new for us.
We're going to be speaking in a
gigantic stadium...4,000 people,
live audience.
Alex has been selected to be on a
VIP roundtable panel.
We're not really sure how that happened,
but somehow it's about to start
in thirty minutes.
Tell us a little bit more about what you do.
What are some of the challenges you
face and how you overcome them.
Hello everyone.
My name is Alex.
First and foremost, I'd like to thank you
for having me here and
to be sitting among such prestigious
and be accompanied by such prestigious
people.
My story is a long one.
I'll try to be brief.
I have always been fascinated by the
world, by different cultures,
different languages,
different ways of living.
That lead me to study history
and cultural anthropology.
My brother is a travel writer,
and I was always interested in film
making, so we decided to join forces
and create our project, Vagabrothers.
We won a contest, which sent us
around the world for six months
to twenty five different countries
in twenty five weeks,
and basically our job was to vlog.
The challenges are:
we are responsible for all of
our productions.
We shoot all of the videos that we make.
We do all the preproduction;
we shoot them; I edit them;
we upload them;
we tweet them;
we put them on Facebook and deal with
all the social media.
It can kind of be overwhelming at times.
But it's exciting;
it's new, and it's just fun.
At the end of the day, we're both
passionate about telling stories.
We get to tell stories and
experience new countries.
This is our first time in South Korea
The dinner is done,
and everyone is retiring to their rooms
for the night, but we've got basically
until tomorrow to give this huge speech.
There're so many interesting people here.
Everyone's.......
Alex was sitting on a panel;
he did a great job.
He was with a guy who is leader of
cryogenics, a NASA scientist and
an investigative reporter from Japan.
Definitely, we're very humbled to be
around all these people.
And tomorrow, hopefully, our speech
will give some value to the people
in the audience.
I think we've got to practice a little bit.
We'll see. They say practice makes
perfect, but....
improvisation is also a skill.
We're going to rest up.
See you guys tomorrow at the event.
There're our faces on the wall right there.
[laughs] Party time.
We're about to go on stage, but first
we're having a luncheon with the
other speakers right now.
For lunch we have sea cucumber.
Unfortunately a lot of these foods
are considered good for male virility.
a.k.a., they help you get it up.
We don't need that because we're about
to go speak in front of 4,000 people.
That would be worse case scenario.
Tastes pretty good. Does it?
There's a number of people, our panelist
who are the street artists, a former
ambassador to the United Nations,
some journalists from around the world.
Overall, we're just in really good company.
It's quite an honor to be here.
Who are we speaking with?
Nervous
Who are you?
My name is royyaldog
I don't know what I am.
You're a street artist.
Am I? You're good, dude.
Don't worry. We've got it.
Boom.
This is the moderator. Hi.
His name is Tyler.
Wish me luck
Wish all of us luck.
It is a very full house.
We're on.
No pressure.
We're at the MBN-Y Forum in Seoul,
South Korea.
We've just sat down, and we're
about to speak to 4,000 people
in this massive auditorium.
Marko, are you ready?
Well, I guess we're about as ready as
we're ever going to be.
There's a lot of people here.
You've just got to speak from the heart.
It's the Vagabrothers' story.
Always from the heart.
It's the story of how you and I got to be
here, and I just want to say right now,
thank you and
thank you all for watching. You've helped
us on this journey.
We wouldn't be here without you guys.
Thank you.
Hello everybody.
Thank you for the introduction.
And thank you all for having us here.
My name is Marko.
My name is Alex.
And together, we are lucky enough
to live our dream of traveling the world
through our YouTube channel,
Vagabrothers.
First off, I'd like to thank the MBN-Y
Forum for bringing us out here
and giving us the opportunity to
speak to you guys because if anyone
had told us ten years ago that we
would be standing here in Seoul,
South Korea, speaking to
an entire room full of young, captive
minds, and that we would be running our
own travel show on the internet,
I would have had to say, "No.
That's impossible."
Ten years ago, things were a lot different.
My brother and I were not really close friends.
We were " frenemies."
We were brotherly rivals,
as different as night and day.
Ten years ago, YouTube was not a
place where you could make a living.
It was full of cat videos.
Nobody knew what gangnam style was.
What we're going to do today is
we're going to tell all of you our story,
our journey; the ups and the downs,
and hopefully the lessons that we've
learned through our journey can help all
of you get one step closer to achieving
your dreams.
Without any further ado,
take it away, Brother.
We will give you some back story.
Ten years ago, it was 2007.
If you told people that your dream
was to be in media in 2007,
people would have said that it
was impossible.
That's because at that time, blogs
were killing newspapers;
Napster was killing music,
and Pirate Bay was killing Hollywood.
All these industries were not hiring
that many people anymore.
They were firing people.
But that's what both my brother and I
wanted to do.
I always wanted to be in television,
a television host exploring the world
and learning about different cultures.
I always wanted to be a world traveling
writer, like Ernest Hemingway.
When I said that to my father
as I was approaching graduation,
my dad told me, "No. That's impossible.
You need to get a real job.
You need to work in finance
as an investment banker."
I had studied economics in college.
I told him, "No. I want to be a writer.
I want to do something creative."
In 2008 right after I had graduated,
was the world global financial crisis.
Suddenly, there was huge unemployment.
All the investment banks were not hiring people,
and it was my father's dream for me
that became impossible.
In someways, the obstacle
was the way forward.
At that time, one of the only jobs hiring
was to be an English teacher.
There was a program in Spain
that I applied to which I figured
would give me the opportunity to
use that time to practice the skills
that I would need to be a travel writer.
It was that moment that
I look back now
is what made me come here, eventually.
The lesson is that when it comes
to believing in your dream,
often times the people who are closest
to you are the ones that tell you...no ,no.
Don't do that.
And it's because they love you,
because they want you to succeed.
When you follow your dreams,
it's risky; it's not guaranteed you're
going to succeed,
and they don't want to see you fail
and be disappointed.
It's important that whatever your dream is,
you remember to believe in it.
That's the very first step.
You have to believe in it,
and you have to take action towards
making it happen.
While Mark was moving to Spain and
going on all these adventures and
started blogging, I was still a student.
I was spending long nights in libraries,
which I imagine all of you can relate to,
too much time in the library,
not enough time to live.
Well, I always wanted to explore.
I always wanted to be outside;
I wanted to go places where I had never
been before and meet people that I had
never met before; experience different
cultures, and I figured that television
was the way to do that.
I thought, how do I do this?
How do I get from where I am
to where I want to be?
I studied history and cultural
anthropology in college.
I can't tell you the amount of times
that people asked me, what are you
going to do with that degree?
I don't know what I'm going to do with
that degree, but it's what I'm interested in.
I decided to follow my passion
instead of what people told me I
should be doing.
I graduate college,
and an email comes at me
out of the blue.
My cousin had gotten a notification
from her friend that her friend was going
on a documentary film expedition
to the Ecuadorian Andes
to look for lost Incan treasure.
Who doesn't want to go on a
treasure hunt?
I called the director and I said,
"Please. I need to be on this expedition."
I pleaded. Somehow I got invited,
and I had an incredible experience....
two weeks in the wilds of Ecuador,
knee deep in mud, sleet, snow, rain,
every single type of weather you could
imagine, and the film
never got made.
I had some GoPro clips,
and I figured, to be a television host,
the first thing that you need is a host reel.
That's what they call it. It's basically
a montage of clips of you speaking.
I decided I'm going to take the clips that
I filmed on my Go Pro,
and I'm going to make a show reel.
But in order to do that, I need to learn
how to edit a video, and I've never
edited a video before.
I opened iMovie;
I made a video which to this day is
the most embarrassing video I have
ever made.
It was one of those templates, like
the Indiana Jones Explorer template.
Honestly, I'm very glad that's not on the
internet now.
The point is that it was the first piece
of work; it was the first step.
I went home and found a broomstick.
I ducked-taped my Go Pro
to a broken broom stick and essentially
had a selfie stick.
That's because selfie sticks didn't exist.
Selfie sticks did not exist back then.
We're old now.
The point is that if you want to make
it to where you want to be,
you can't do nothing.
You have to do something.
You have to take a step
in the direction of your dreams.
That honestly is the most difficult step:
the first step is the hardest.
That is called the Do Something Principle
It's important to think it doesn't have to
be anything crazy;
it could be registering an Instagram
profile; making a phone call to someone;
opening a website.
But for us, it didn't really come together
until we teamed up.
A few years later, we both had been
working on our individual dreams,
which were similar, but different paths.
A family friend saw us and said,
"You two are so different,
but you're doing similar things,
and if you teamed up
and made a television show,
I guarantee it would be a great idea."
We committed to something
bigger than ourselves.
We just wrote down the idea on a piece
of paper after fighting about every single
word that went onto that piece of paper,
we came up with a mission statement.
The mission was simple: we want to
travel the world, and we want to create
understanding by meeting different
cultures; meeting different people
and sharing that with our audience.
Once we wrote it down on a piece of
paper, it was like magic happened.
We thought we have it on paper, let's
send it to a production company in
Hollywood.
We sent it to three production companies.
And each production company came
back to us with the same response: yes
This is great; this is new; this is fresh.
We love it; we want to see more.
Do you guys have a video together?
When can you come meet us in Los Angeles?
And the problem was: we didn't have
a video together. No, no we didn't.
We weren't friends. We hadn't lived
together in eight years.
Alex is a natural on camera.
I am not.
For everyone who is scared of being
on camera in public,
that's how I felt.
We had to make a video, and we
managed to stop fighting for long enough
to film a video and send it to this
production company in Hollywood.
One by one, they came back with the
same response: thanks, but no thanks.
Dealing with rejection sucks, doesn't it?
But there is a silver lining to rejection,
and it does take a little bit of courage
to deal with that because you have to
swallow your pride;
you have to eliminate the emotions.
And then once you've done that, you have
a clear picture of where you can improve.
The one thing that was the same in all
the responses from the production
companies was: you guys don't have
any chemistry.
Are you even brothers?
We were both like this:
we had both been fighting.
It's my line. No, it's my line.
It's my turn to speak.
After crying for a second.....
Oh, god, what do we do? Give up?
No. We decided we're going to
commit even more.
We're going to make a video every
single week.
We were still teaching English in Spain.
When we were doing this, we were
English teachers in Spain.
When we were out of school, we
dedicated every moment, every breath
to Vagabrothers, to the YouTube channel.
We said we're going to go out and we're
going to work on every aspect of production.
We're going to teach ourselves how to
film; we're going to teach ourselves
how to edit, and most of all,
we're going to work on our chemistry.
Because if we don't have chemistry,
then there's nothing, right?
And that started with being friends,
I think, too. It did.
At his point, Alex is the natural on camera.
I'm the writer, and he's trying to get
me more comfortable.
He's literally making me walk around
[homework assignment] in public
with a Go Pro on a stick
with everybody looking at me and just
talk to the camera.
Alex is like [says], " Ignore everybody."
I couldn't ignore everybody.
Now, it's more normal.
Everybody has Snapchat.
Five years ago, it really was not common.
No one wants to stand up and say,
it's not normal for anyone else to talk
to a camera that they are holding in their hand,
but it's ok for me to do it.
It's very egotistical.
It doesn't sound very humble.
There are certain times where we
wouldn't be able to do what we do if
didn't say it's ok for me to do this.
It took a lot of time.
Speaking of a lot of time, there's this
idea; it's called ten thousand hours.
Have you ever stopped and thought
about how much time ten thousand
hours is?
I don't have ten thousand free hours.
But if it's going to get you to your dream,
then you should have ten thousand hours.
Some of the most successful people in
the world, you know them, the Beatles,
Mozart,
Bill Gates, all these people started
as total amateurs,
and they dedicated ten thousand hours
to go from an amateur
to a professional.
During that period of time,
they taught themselves everything
they needed to know, and they practiced
and practiced and practiced
until they became better
at what they do.
That's exactly what Mark and I tried to do.
When we decided to do this,
we committed; we said we're going to
do this.
We're going to be film makers and hosts,
and we're going to do it by working
our butts off.
Flash forward six months.
We've been working as hard as we can.
We didn't get ten thousand hours,
but we did our best.
Then there was a problem: reality hits.
My visa is expiring.
I need to go home to the United States.
I have two weeks left with my brother in Spain.
I had to call my parents, and my
parents were saying, " I told you so."
Time for you to get a real job.
I turn off the phone;
I open up Twitter, and the first Tweet
that I see says,
Dream Competition.
A six month trip around the world
to make a YouTube travel show
with a prize of $50,000, and all
you have to do is make a three minute
video about anywhere in the world.
At that point we realized this is perfect.
There weren't really a lot of people
applying. We lived in San Sebastian in
the Basque Country, which is beautiful.
We'd been practicing the exact skills that
were needed, for the previous six months.
I called my parents back and said,
" Mom, Dad, we have a plan."
We're going to win a contest.
My last two weeks, ten days of
fourteen days was raining.
We worked on the script until the script
was perfect.
We had it memorized.
Then one day the clouds parted.
The sun comes out, and we walk out
and start filming.
We film it, and my brother edits it;
it fits three minutes perfectly.
We upload it to the internet.
It goes viral in the Basque Country.
Everybody starts voting for the video.
Next thing you know,
we go to England where there is a
finalist, the top ten finalist,
and we win the competition.
A lot of people tell us
that we were lucky,
that we just saw the Tweet.
But if we hadn't been practicing,
we wouldn't have been able to take
advantage of that Tweet, which is why
they say that luck is simply when
preparation meets opportunity.
You never know when you're going to
get an opportunity, but unless you're
preparing for that, you won't be able to
take advantage of it.
We won. This is the strangest picture
that has ever been taken of us.
We won, and we embarked on this crazy trip.
The trip was called
the Biggest Baddest Bucket List.
We were going to be sent around the
world for six months doing all of the
craziest stuff you can do in the world:
scuba diving on the Great Barrier Reef;
jumping out of airplanes in Queenstown,
New Zealand. We went to
Kazakhstan; we went to Ecuador;
we went to Costa Rica. The list goes on.
It was an insane trip.
When we first won it, they told us
we're going to have a film crew with you,
we'll have an editor.
All you have to do is travel and survive
and do everything and host it.
As we got closer to the date that the
plane was going to take off,
all of the details started to change more.
They said, " Unfortunately,
there's not going to be a film crew,
so you guys are going to have to film
it yourselves.
Actually, instead of one video a week,
why don't you guys do two.
Okay.
And you know what?
There's going to be no help with editing.
You're going to have to take care of that,
as well.
It was what we call a career crucible in
a way where we made more videos
in the first six weeks of that trip
than we had ever made in our lives.
This was a six month trip.
Nonstop travel.
Twenty five destinations in twenty five
weeks, editing, filming.
As we said, it was a career crucible
because all the pressure to deliver was
on us.
When we got to destinations,
the itineraries were not complete.
We had to learn how to improvise.
All the obstacles that we encountered
during this trip, turned out to be
things that taught us really valuable skills.
The point of this is that
sometimes in life when you are
presented with an obstacle,
it's easier to tell yourself
reasons why you can't do something
than to double down,
embrace the fact that you have to
deal with this and think creatively
of ways to solve problems.
A lot of times in life,
the obstacle is actually the way.
That is a title of a book that
all of you should read by Ryan Holliday.
The book is called, The Obstacle is
the Way.
When we crossed the finish line after six
months, we got some additional bad news.
We were supposed to be paid a prize
of $50,000, but the company informed
us that they'd run out of money, and
we weren't going to get the prize money.
It was really frustrating at the time.
We'd built up this channel for the
company that had 60, 000 subscribers
at the time when our first channel
only had a thousand.
It belonged to the company,
and the company didn't give us access
to the channel; we didn't get the
prize money.
We had to go back home.
We essentially did not have a channel,
and we didn't have a budget that we'd
hoped we'd be able to use
to create our own channel.
Essentially, we'd lost the two external
motivations: fame and fortune.
We didn't have the fame.
We'd lost the channel, and
we didn't have the fortune of $50,000.
We moved back to our parents' house.
We did have some money the company
gave us, and we realized we had the
footage from the trip; that we could
take the footage and turn it into
different videos.
And we could take the money, which
wasn't as much as we hoped
but was enough to plan some strategic
trips to create new content for a new
channel.
And we started again.
We realized that even though we didn't
get what we thought we were going to
get, we actually got something much
better, which was the opportunity
to do this for a job because
the work is the reward.
If you're trying to follow your dreams,
it's worth remembering that no matter
what your dream is, the reward is that
you get to wake up and do it every day.
That was now three years ago that we
started over with a new channel
and created the one we have today.
Even though we've arrived here
and we're standing here and speaking to
all of you does not mean that we are
total professionals and that we know
absolutely everything.
I think one of the most important habits
is that you need to remain a student.
I know because I've spent a lot of time
in classrooms that school,
sometimes, can be one of those things
that you'd rather be done with.
Remember the importance of continually
learning: life is like a journey of
continual learning.
Everyone, you have the power to shape
your future, and it all starts with
one step.
Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Korea
That's it. We finished the conference.
Now we are going to spend the next
couple days exploring Seoul.
We're getting an Airbnb.
We're moving out of the hotel.
We have a couple more vlogs,
including DMZ.
And some more crazy food content.
You'll be able to watch us eat food,
which apparently is very entertaining
for people in South Korea.
Hope you enjoyed that.
We had a great time.
If you did, make sure you give it a
thumbs-up; share it with your friends
and subscribe and turn on notifications
if you haven't already.
Big thanks to everyone from MBN-Y
Forum for inviting us on this trip,
allowing this trip to be possible.
We had a great time.
Thank you everyone who came out
to the event today.
In the mean time, stay curious,
keep exploring, and we'll see you guys
on the road. Peace.
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