Hey, Ibon!
Joseba Arizaga, sir.
What's up? I've been waiting for half an hour.
-Why...? -But the place is spectacular.
But why wouldn't I make you wait? Where did we agree to meet?
-In Zumaia. -But this is the end of the earth, dude.
But haven't you ever been to Zumaia?
This sounds to me like something from...
Do you meet here to ride or to film movies? Because this...
-They even film movies here. -Damn, what...
<i>Spanish Affair</i>, the famous wedding in that chapel...
And <i>Game of Thrones</i>.
Besides, the guy from Spanish Affair, you know his last name is Zugasti, right?
Yeah, you know, that's the way things are.
I swear. And the star is my neighbor, dude.
-No way! -Catalan.
-Well, well... -Basque-Catalan.
Well, now you can say
that you've also been to the beach where they filmed <i>Game of Thrones</i>.
<i>Game of Thrones</i>.
-Hey, there's one thing, guy. -What?
I'm thinking here...
Weren't you an Avant guy? If six months ago you saw me...
What the hell is that you've got?
This is the new Orca Aero.
I'm an Avant fan,
but you know what they ask me to do is make bicycles
for people who like to ride
-and bicycles that turn people on. -What's clear to me is...
What turns you on, turns you on, six months ago, you were an Avant fan.
And Zugasti with the same bike all year long.
And you, changing. And on top of it all, blue...
Man, you know. The same thing I told you in April:
"Bad, but elegant."
And now we're here with some... Explain this to me.
With some bicycles and an evolution,
you look back over recent years and there's
-no need to look... -Get in front, I'm looking backwards...
-The boss in front, for crying out loud. -We don't need to look back to Bugno's era
and you look at recent years and if you want
something also... Things that are really marking the evolution in cycling
are the social networks.
Since the social networks have been around...
We like to share things and we like to have fun.
Cycling is no longer the epic, the suffering,
there are people who like to do that,
-but nowadays, it's fun. -But this...
No, this is true, that cycling
in the 90s, even in the 80s,
was a sport for miners, for day laborers,
-to be miserable. -For sufferers. For sufferers.
And now it's a cult sport, dude.
-A cult sport. -A trendy sport.
A sport where you say: "Damn, look how elegant. Look how well done, hell."
And to be well, to share...
-Whoever doesn't do sailing does cycling. -...and enjoy.
That's right, and for all those people
not just any bicycle will do.
Because now for example... How long have you been at Orbea?
-I've been at Orbea for 14 years. -Fourteen years.
I started in 2003...
And as you remember,
in 2003, how many road bikes did Orbea have?
-It had... -I'm not talking about A1 or A3 aluminum,
-but about geometries, bicycle concepts. -Geometries? One...
-A single one. In 2003... -One bike, right?
That was when we already had the first Orca carbon frame...
Which was the great revolution,
because we left behind the era of aluminum
and immersed ourselves in the carbon era.
But it was an Orca.
A single frame, a single geometry
and from there, well,
cycling was also in the carbon era
this has meant the incorporation of new technologies,
of different uses, of different possibilities,
and then other big changes come along. Well, with the social networks
cycling starts to be a cult sport,
more than a sport for sufferers,
and the benefit is not all just in cycling,
and we find ourselves in an era in which you must have fun...
-Because now, how many models do we have? -Now we have
-at least five or six models. -If memory serves me right, I'd say,
look, the Orca OMR, which is what I'm riding,
the Orca Aero, which is the latest road bike you've launched.
The latest bicycle for sprinters.
-Then, the Avant. -The Avant.
Which is what you showed us in Belgium, endurance.
In particular, but performance, but endurance, for...
-Resistance. -Endurance, resistance.
For guys with self-esteem.
To reach the final here
with that punch of ease that you have saved up, right?
They have to see the link here in the video.
Like Valentí says, down here we need to put
the link to the video with Arizaga and Zugasti.
-The Terra, the Terra. -What's it like?
-Terra is another galaxy. -The video of...
-Pretty. -...the Terra.
Damn, it's pretty. Besides, here's a...
-There's a gatecrasher there... -An infiltrator at the crossing.
A certain Zugasti, dressed in mint green.
Where did this guy come from?
Well, this Otxoa confuses me.
Otxoa has been a road biker for his entire life.
And he puts a biker in the segment on road bikes.
In the end, with Terra, you say: "What segment is it? Also road."
All road. Let's say it's a versatile bicycle
that lets me ride on the road,
and when I see a gravel path, I say:
"Let's go discover new places." Boom!
You go that way and we're going to find
new places and new experiences.
And between the Terra and the road, we also have the Gain now too.
The Gain also belongs to the Road Product Manager, too...
It's a bike that is under Arizaga's domain.
It's a road bicycle
that's been designed by our colleague Jon Gantxegi at Orbea,
and it's the first road bicycle with a motor.
-A little motor, a concept... -Electric assistance, right?
-Electric assistance. -I spoke to him today,
and he said: "The concept of the Gain..." If I'm not mistaken, OK?
He told me: "It's not capital 'E', dash, lowercase 'bike'.
-It's lowercase 'E' and capital 'bike'." -And capital "bike".
In other words, first you have to pedal,
and the other is there to help.
We'll talk another day,
because I've already ridden a few kilometers on the Gain,
but, in particular, what the Gain lets you do
is practice an enjoyable cycling, relaxed,
without suffering and, from a sports perspective,
hey, it's a bicycle that lets you work
at the same aerobic intensity the entire time.
In other words, we take away the hard part, the intense part
of a typical road bicycle.
Then, imagine what a ton of bicycles, a ton of riders.
And riders that also mingle together, OK?
-This is not sectarian... -Of course...
-...everyone does their own thing. -...in a peloton,
-in a Sunday group... -It's a party.
In other words, a guy can show up with an Aero, with a 70 mm profile.
He can look like the typical dancing climber
-With an OMR weighing 6.2 kilos. -Exactly.
-Right? -And he might look like a guy
that doesn't spend a lot of hours cycling,
and he shows up with a Gain
-and joins us. -Or with an Avant.
And another guy with an Avant.
And we all like the same thing: riding bicycles and enjoying
the road and the terrain and the good weather.
Yeah, but then stopping in a nice place
to take a picture to see who gets the most likes.
Yes, because that's what we all like, OK?
That "like" thing, we get hooked on it, don't we?
You all go crazy for it.
Damn, how things have changed... It's crazy.
But, well, at Orbea it's good.
You're happy. I think we're super on top of things, I think...
And we need to talk about MyO, too, right?
-The MyO. The MyO... -All the bikes,
well, not the Gain, no,
but except for the Gain, all the rest are in MyO, right?
Exactly.
So it's the customized paint service
-at no additional cost. -Customized paint service
and you can also specify just how you want it.
With the wheels you want and groupset you want...
With the seat you want, the handlebars...
Nowadays, what matters is that someone buys a bicycle
to have fun with cycling
and that, also, their bicycle is unique.
-Right. -And what people like is to share
-unique things we create for ourselves. -Right.
-That's been the big boom and the... -The big difference.
...and the big difference that we're marking today in the market.
About what you're riding an Aero. Because I wasn't lucky enough...
I haven't been lucky enough to try it.
-I'll explain it to you later. -I want to.
We'll take a ride. First you try it,
-And then I'll explain it to you. -Let's first see what's real.
-Fine. -So, let's go over there...
-Come on. -And then you can explain the Aero to me.
-You got it. -You in front, you're the guide.
Come on, let's go.
Boy, what beautiful scenery, isn't it? Look, look at the <i>txakoli</i>.
Making the bike dance, like Alberto Contador, who's retired.
The microphones aren't on, are they?
-Uh, who knows? -What?
Who knows? You know the marketing guys at Orbea.
-There might be microphones on the bike. -Or spying satellites.
Interesting fact, ladies and gentlemen. Climbing Meagas Peak.
-Aero big shot. -Big shot,
here, planted on the seat...
-So, Jan Ullrich and Induráin, Aero. -Kicking it out. That's it.
and Pantani and Virenque, this one.
-That one, yes, yes. -Right?
-Exactly. -Mayo, this.
-Mayo, that. -Right.
-That style of rider. Then you have... -That Landa, right?
-Yes, then if you have a stage... -And Froome? Froome? Aero?
-No, Froome would also be... -A climber.
A type of climber.
-But obviously... -Even if he doesn't stand up.
When you talk about these riders, we're thinking and we're seeing them
-climbing Tourmalet and Izoard... -Right.
-"What is an Aero doing there?" -Right.
Well, in that stage, maybe I'd go with an OMR.
Sure.
It's a matter of understanding people and...
matching the feeling about the bicycle
to what turns people on.
-Right. -And then, in addition to that,
since people like to share,
they take the Orca Aero, "look at those tremendous tires,"
"so good looking..."
Arizaga suffering with Zugasti, here at Meagas Peak.
You're bold! You have the baton, bastard.
I take the photo and it goes on Instagram. I don't have an account, but anyway.
-So we're headed back, right? -Arizaga, YouTuber.
What a photo, dude, what a photo. What a photo!
I like this one. "Basque handball", I'm going to call it.
-They're nice, right? -Yes.
But yours is flashier, eh?
-Send this one to me later. -Pretty, isn't it?
-Can I post it on Instagram? -Of course, dude.
Here, damn it. Come on!
I fell in love with the Aero on that court up there, OK? On Meagas.
Hell, I took the photo, and this bike is mine.
I like it shiny like that.
-Here, a shiny MyO. -You like that bicycle
-because it's cool, but you're a guy... -It's perfect for Instagram.
But you're an OMR guy!
-You like accelerating, starting up. -Totally.
-Fighting with the bicycle. -But I like
the "likes" on Instagram and people saying:
"Hell, look at Zugasti's bike."
Then, for that, the Aero is snazzy, it makes the photo,
there is more surface here...
It's more magnificent, because an aerodynamic profile...
Otxoa understands me. He's looking at me and he understands what I'm saying.
I see... It makes the photo, you know?
Those that go for the profile...
Man, there's no doubt that an aerodynamic profile
with fuller shapes and all that,
the bike is much more attractive
than a bicycle like the OMR, focused on weight...
-Which is functional. -Zugasti's OMR,
with the carbon Sirium, is a transparent bike.
Like me with the babes, I go by and they don't even say hello.
-It's a light bicycle. -The chicks ignore me. I'm transparent.
It's a light bicycle.
The Orca Aero is a bicycle for elegant people.
And fast guys, OK? Powerful.
And what's clear to me is that Arizaga,
in La Grupetta, is always going to be the one in the lead, dude.
Have you noticed? I mean, the first on Avant, the first on Gain...
Now the Aero that I'm trying out, I don't know...
-The disk... -You're starting to make me sick.
Dude, come on, enough already.
This is crazy, I'm always trailing behind.
Let's see if you get grumpy now.
I was teasing him about his glasses and he has the same ones...
Get going. Get going and shut up.
What, Joseba?
Nice ride we've taken.
Nice ride, nice bike. You really ride on this!
-Did you see? -It really gets you going, dude.
This brings me up.
Hell... More than up, you're coming down.
-When the bike gets going... -The bike gets going...
You were numb.
Did you like the climb?
Zugasti's whipped. I'm going...
I...well, climbing here to... jumping. Jumping.
To whip Zugasti, you've got to go at it hard.
But climbing Meagas, I saw myself here jumping and all...
You're in your element.
-In your element with your bike. -A couple of climbs
you were tagging along and...
And there you've got me, with my bike on my terrain.
Tell me a little, the geometry is very similar, right?
Is the head tube shorter?
In terms of geometry, they're the same.
Seven sizes and practically the same geometry.
Because of aerodynamics and also aesthetics,
what we have done is a head tube for Zugasti.
-Five millimeters lower than on the OMR. -I love that.
That's what trips your trigger. It turns you on!
Explain that to me, about the seat stay down there.
Well, this, in the end, is an aerodynamic bicycle.
We'll start from the premise that we already had an Orca OMR,
which is a light bicycle, a climbing bicycle,
a bicycle for a firecracker like you,
who likes to hop on a bike, take off on the bike...
A bike made for acceleration.
However, here what we have is an Orca Aero,
which at one time we used for the sprinters
we had on team Cofidis
and for those we also had on the UHC team,
and where we needed a fast bicycle, a stiff bicycle
and a bicycle for people with a lot of strength
who, when they give the watts to this bicycle,
the bicycle shoots ahead.
You noted the rigidity, the same, right?
-It's noticeable, very noticeable... -Wider tubes, oversized...
The rigidity is very noticeable,
especially because we thought
about meeting the needs of a sprinter,
and we've made an Aero bicycle
because what it needs to be is efficient,
not offer wind resistance
and that a sprinter, a rider, can exert themselves to the maximum
on this type of terrain, right? Then...
And the low chainstays and all that, is it also for rigidity?
The chainstay thing is for rigidity,
the chainstays are also for integrating the brakes,
also reducing volumes and creating a more aerodynamic bike.
This area here, what we wanted was also
to close the gap there is between the seatpost and the wheel
to provide better aerodynamics,
and that forces you to lower the seat stays.
-That's great. -The fork
and the entire bike as a whole
is the first one designed
once the three to one ratio for the tubes
in the UCI rules has expired.
What does the three to one ratio mean?
The three to one ratio means
that, on this Orca OMR we have here,
we have designed a bicycle
where the ratio between the depth and the width of the fork
has to be three to one.
-In other words, three wide by one tall. -By one.
Or its equivalent. Always maintaining that ratio.
While on this bicycle,
the ratio is different and we've been able to make
-a more aerodynamic bicycle. -OK.
The fork is much deeper,
-a narrow fork... -And flatter.
-Wider. -Flatter and more aerodynamic.
OK. And here the UCI says: "This is OK, this is not."
As of January of this year,
it's been possible to design bicycles without this ratio,
and we have been one of the only ones and the first to have applied
a bicycle that, compared to the Aero bicycles
designed according to that ratio,
are less aerodynamically efficient.
And the weight? You know that the climbers with this weight thing...
-Right. -And besides, cyclists
who don't have a weight limit, this bike as it is,
on the same frame in the same size
and the same carbon OMR...
-Top of the line. -Top.
What difference would there be...?
In terms of weight, there's a difference
of around 300 grams, 350 grams, from one frame to another.
You need to understand that it's a bicycle
Where on an Orca OMR, we had round cross-sections
that allowed us to optimize the weight-rigidity ratio.
Here we're talking about flat cross-sections,
very aerodynamic cross-sections,
where, to maintain the same rigidity or better,
you have to laminate more,
You have to use a stronger, heavier carbon fiber.
There's also more quantity, there's more surface.
There's more surface. There's a greater amount of carbon.
The type of carbon it is also a type of carbon
that is top of the line, it's an OMR and it is much more resistant,
and the shapes and the rigidity force you to have more weight.
And the seat stays, how is the...?
For me, the seat stays, you know that I like a short seat stay.
Short chainstay, short chainstay. What...? Is that similar or not?
-It's the same, exactly the same. -Exactly the same.
It's exactly the same. On the rest of the geometry,
with the exception of the 5 mm, let's say, in the height of the...
-of the stack... -Which helps Zugasti.
-Low handlebars. -Zugasti likes that better...
And that also, on a more aerodynamic bicycle,
also means that people are going to hunch over
-in a posture... -Look...
That's even more aerodynamic.
-It gives you a boost. -I didn't see myself on an Aero,
but after what Aleix told me,
who was the first to have the Aero aside from Team Cofidis,
and Arizaga, of course. Aleix, the motorist.
-Aleix is used to going 300 per hour. -I've heard wonders.
I've heard wonders about it. And now you tell me
that the head tube is lower...
You like it better?
I like it better. And then there's something I like, which is this.
It's intended for the electronics.
It's the integration. On these bicycles...
-you need to... That's right. -The cables on the outside, all built-in.
You charge directly from here or the handlebars.
We use the new junction from Shimano
and we've housed it in the diagonal tube,
it's hidden,
so it doesn't go under the stem,
the brakes are a direct mount-type.
It's not... Let's say, a traditional central road brake,
rather a direct mount.
-Ah, it also has the double pivot. -Double pivot,
so it's integrated...
Its better integrated into the bicycle...
-And behind it also has a double pivot. -Also.
-OK, stiffer. -It gives it more rigidity.
-More braking power, too. -More rigidity and more braking power.
But in particular, we're talking about integration.
We didn't want to make a seatpost
-that was too long... -Long, yeah.
...because in the end, we also have to try for a little bit of comfort.
-The more... -For it to absorb a bit.
For it to absorb a bit
or at least for it not to turn into something...
unbearable over long distances.
Then, well, so since...
it's the same type of seatpost and mechanism we have on the Ordu,
on the time trial bike, in the triathlon bike,
but we've given it a smaller cross-section
to try to make it more comfortable.
It is very well integrated, because we specifically designed
the horizontal tube area
with the head tube for these handlebars.
-So you hit the FSA... -We talked to FSA.
We started from their design to perfectly integrate them.
However, there are models in this range on which...
Or people who don't want to take
this type of integrated handlebars.
And you can have a normal stem with normal handlebars.
And here we've also done it
so that they are integrated with a cover...
-Yes, I've seen it in Madrid. -...that covers the stem
and it's a lot more integrated.
And when it comes to doing MyO, when it comes to the handlebar component,
there are different stems?
There are different...
-Different widths, too, I imagine. -Widths.
There are handlebars, there are wheels, there are crank lengths...
There are components and, of course, the paint.
In the end, you can make the Aero bicycle
-also in the color you want. -Look, I...
I like to jump around, but this bike...
And it's not to look good, because Zugasti never does.
So, like the Avant, to go out to buy bread,
and I'm sorry, but Zugasti is not an Avant guy.
-I like this one. I like this one. -You took the bait, you fell for it.
This one I...
Well, ask Aleix to also explain a little.
I like this one, dude.
-Besides, you have it in MyO, right? -In MyO.
-In MyO, with the name... -All the carbon at Orbea is in MyO.
Now we will tell Xabier,
before we leave to ride and to finish up,
because we're ending up like bats.
We're going to be bats by the time we get to Zumaia.
Tell him to record some of the details we were talking about
so people can see
-what we're saying. -The bicycle in detail.
-Don't you think? -Perfect.
And enough... Some of us have already missed the plane.
-Not you, you move like a plane. -You'll make it there.
If not, we'll loan you an Orca Aero and off you go to Barcelona.
-You see. -Get going.
I'm going to Barcelona on an Orca Aero.
-Oh, dear. -Come on.
Come on, focus on the sky, we're leaving.
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