DAN: WE WILL TALK ABOUT A KEY
PROGRAM TONIGHT.
STATE OF MIND IS BROUGHT TO
YOU IN PART BY LOOKOUT RHODE
ISLAND.
DAN: PRESIDENTIAL
BUDGETS,
ESPECIALLY FIRST-YEAR PROJECTS,
USUALLY END UP WITH IN THE
GUILLOTINE.
THERE IS CONVERSATION AND
WASHINGTON, OTHER THAN THE
HULLABALOO ABOUT POLICY
AND
WHETHER SOME PROGRAMS ARE
ACTUALLY WORTH SPENDING MONEY ON
.
WE HAVE A SMART PERSON ON THE
RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THINGS
LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS COMING UP
THIS EVENING.
DON'T GO ANYWHERE.
WE WILL MEET OUR GUEST IN A
MATTER OF MOMENTS.
BUT FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING
HERE.
BOY OH BOY, IT'S WORKING AGAIN.
DONALD TRUMP BACK AT IT
, TWEETS
ALL OVER.
RATHER THAN READING THEM ALL,
WHY DON'T WE JUST REPORT ON THEM
ALL.
PRESIDENT TRUMP TOOK TO
SOCIAL MEDIA MONDAY SUGGESTING
THE INTELLIGENT -- HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE
INVESTIGATE HILLARY CLINTON'S
ALLEGED TIES TO RUSSIA TWEETING,
RUSSIAN SPEECH MONEY TO BUILD
THE HILLARY RUSSIAN RESET FROM
RUSSIA STORY IS A HOAX.
THE RANT CAME AMID CALLS FROM
DEMOCRATS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN
CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, DEVIN
NUNES, TO RECUSE HIMSELF FROM
THE PROBE INTO RUSSIAN
ASSOCIATES.
A QUESTION HAS BEEN RAISED
ABOUT WHETHER HE CAN LEAD A
CREDIBLE INVESTIGATION.
ON-RAMP -- ON MONDAY
REPRESENTATIVE NEWNESS
TECHNOLOGY HE HAD A SECRET
MEETING WITH THEN ON --
UNIDENTIFIED SOURCE.
HE SAID HE VIEWED HIGHLY
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS ABOUT MR.
TRUMP'S SURVEILLANCE CLAIMS.
NUNES REACHED THE PRESIDENT
BEFORE TALKING TO MEMBERS OF HIS
OWN COMMUNITY -- COMMITTEE.
I'M SURE THE DEMOCRATS WANT
ME TO QUIT BECAUSE I AM QUITE
EFFECTIVE.
THIS CAME ON THE SAME
DAY
JARED KUSHNER VOLUNTARILY AGREED
TO BE INTERVIEWED BY SENATE
LAWMAKERS.
THIS IS PART OF THEIR PROBE INTO
RUSSIAN MEDDLING OF THE 2016
ELECTION.
THIS AMID REVELATIONS KUSHNER
SAT DOWN WITH THE RUSSIAN
AMBASSADOR AT TRUMP TOWER DURING
THE TRANSITION.
RUSSIAN BANK WITH
DEEP TIES TO
PRESIDENT AND RUSSIAN
INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES.
THAT WAS PART OF HIS
ROLE,
AND HE EXECUTED IT COMPLETELY AS
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO.
A DATE FOR KUSHNER'S
TESTIMONY HAS NOT BEEN SET.
DAN: THAT IS A LOT TO DIGEST,
THE MORAL IS THAT DONALD TRUMP
CONTINUES TO TRY TO, I DON'T
KNOW, TO BEAT HIS WAY OUT OF
WHATEVER JAM HE MAY OR MAY NOT
-- TWEET HIS WAY OUT OF WHATEVER
JAM HE IS IN.
ISN'T IT ON -- ODD
, INSTEAD OF
COOPERATING HE DEFLECTS AND
TELLS MORE STORIES?
PANHANDLING PROBLEM
HERE.
THIS IS A NON-STOP CONVERSATION,
WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS
EVERYWHERE FOR TOO LONG.
HEADLINES, REGARDING THIS, IT IS
A CHRONIC SITUATION.
THE COPS ARE GETTING TOUGH.
RIGHTS DEFENSE COMMITTEE -- A
CROSSROAD IN NEW LONDON AVENUE.
I'M HERE TO EXERCISE MY FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO SHOW MY
OPPOSITION TO THE ORDER.
THIS MAN DEDICATED HIS ENTIRE
CAREER TO ISSUE SOCIAL JUSTICE
FOR THOSE IN NEED.
HE CALLS THE SAFETY ORDINANCE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, A PUBLIC GUYS
TO SUPPRESS THE FACE OF POVERTY
AND HOMELESSNESS.
I WAS THERE FOR THE CITY
COUNCIL HEARINGS, THAT IS --
THIS IS DESIGNED TO TRY TO
RE VISION FOR
PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE
STRUGGLING.
IT IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF
WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
THE MAYOR CANNOT MAKE IT TO
MONDAY'S DEMONSTRATION BUT HIS
OFFICE SAID, THEY CONTINUE TO
STRESS THEY ARE IN NO BAN ON
PANHANDLING IN CRANSTON.
THE ORDINANCE PASSED IN FEBRUARY
RESTRICTS TRANSACTIONS IN THE
ROADWAY ITSELF.
SOME SAY THAT IS STILL TOO MUCH.
ANY ORDINTEMPTS
TO CRIMINALIZE BEHAVIOR
INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO ENGAGE IN TO
SURVIVE WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A
BROKEN SAFETY NET IS EVER GOING
TO BE FUNCTIONAL.
THE ORDINANCE CURRENTLY UNDER
REVIEW BY THE ACLU, POINTS TO
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES ASSOCIATED
WITH PANHANDLING.
SHE DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT IS THE
ISSUE, SHE SAYS THIS IS AN
ATTACK ON FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHTS, A WAY TO CRIMINALIZE THE
HOMELESS.
IT IS HOMELESSNESS THAT'S
DANGEROUS, NOT STANDING IN A
MEETING TRYING TO SURVIVE.
DAN: THIS IS JUST
IRRESISTIBLE
FORCE, IMMOVABLE OBJECT.
IT'S AN IMPOSSIBLE SCENARIO.
BY THE WAY, I KEEP SAYING THIS:
WE NEED A STATEWIDE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION SO THAT THESE ISSUES
DO NOT MOVE FROM ONE TOWN THAT
GETS TOUGH ON IT 6 C13
I HAVE EMPATHY FOR THOSE WHO ARE
MAKING A LEGITIMATE CLAIM FOR
HEALTH.
BY THE WAY, CRANSTON CUFFS I
GUESS WTO PROVE A
POINT YESTERDAY, THEY TOOK TO
MEDIA PEOPLE TO COVER THE STORY,
INCLUDING OUR OWN REPORTER.
WE LOOK AT THE SKINNY ON THAT
REPORT BACK TO YOU.
STATEWIDE POLICY, ENFORCEMENT, I
THINK IS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE.
WE NEED TO THINK IT THROUGH, OUR
SIGNIFICANT -- THERE ARE
SIGNIFICANT FIRST AMENDMENT
RIGHTS AT A PRETTY.
--
JEOPARDY.
THERE IS A STORY GETTING A LOT
OF ATTENTION ON THE CONCEPT OF
-- POT AND COCAINE.
WE RAN THIS PIECE ON OUR
WEBSITE.
THE POLICE UNION IS HAVING A
PROBLEM, A YOUNG MAN WHO IS NOW
30 BUT WHO WAS JAMMED UP FOR
COCAINE SALE BACK IN -- AT THE
AGE OF 19, HAS BECOME SUCCESSFUL
WITHIN THE POLICE ACADEMY, WILL
BECOME A COP.
THERE -- ONLY 60 WERE EXCEPTED
OUT OF SO APPLICATIONS.
THE THEORY IS THAT YOU HAVE TO
KNOW A GUY.
I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, YOU CANNOT
HAVE A FELONY IN A POLICE
OFFICER, CONVICTED.
HE WAS NOT CONVICTED, HE MET
HALFWAY IN THE MIDDLE BY A
PROGRAM THAT INTERVENED YOUNG
PEOPLE'S EFFORTS WITH DRUG
SALES.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF YOU HAVE
A GUY WHO HAS TURNED HIS LIFE
AROUND AND WANTS TO BE A POLICE
GROUND AS TO WHAT IT IS LIKE OUT
THERE IN THE QUOTE, REAL WORLD
OF DRUG TRAFFICKING, THAT WOULD
BE AN ASSET NOT A LIABILITY.
WE WILL DIG INTO THAT OVER THE
NEXT FEW DAYS AND GET ANSWERS.
IN THE MEANTIME, DID YOU ARE THE
STORY YESTERDAY IN THE PROVINCE
JOURNAL?
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
THEY DID THIS -- IT USED TO BE
THAT THERE WAS A NO CHARGE BUS
FARE FOR SENIORS AND HANDICAPPED
PEOPLE -- HANDICAPPED IS THE
WRONG WORD, RIGHT?
WHAT'S THE WORD?
THE DISABLED, WE MUST BE CORRECT
WHEN WE SAY THIS.
THE DISABLED AND SENIORS WERE
ABLE TO GET ON THE BUS FOR
NOTHING.
NOW THERE ARE HUNDREDS MISSING
ÃSCHEDULED SOUP
KITCHEN MEALS AND UNLIKE ACROSS
THE CITY BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT
HAVE THAT $.50? TO GET ON THE
BUS!
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY
THERE IS
PRESSURE TO MAKE A PROFIT ON THE
PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM.
NO PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM MAKES
MONEY.
YOU HAVE TO RUN EFFICIENTLY, IF
THERE IS WASTE AND FRAUD GET ON
IT, BUT JAMMING UP THE PEOPLE
WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD TO BE
JAMMED UP IS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO
WHAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
SYSTEM IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
THEY OUGHT TO THROW THIS IDEA
OUT AND GO BACK, MAKE SURE THOSE
GETTING FREE RIGHTS ARE VERIFIED
TO DESERVE IT ANDRE UNDER THE
POVERTY LINE.
WHAT DO HAVE PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION FOR?
ALL OF US WHO RUN AROUND IN OUR
CARS JAMMING UP THE HIGHWAYS
HAVE THIS NOSE IN THE AIR
DISPOSITION, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.
SPEAKING OF PROGRAMS, YOU GUYS
WILL CALL ME A BLEEDING HEART
LIBER BY THE TIME THIS SHOW IS
OVER.
LOOK AT THIS HEADLINE IN THE
PROVIDENCE JOURNAL -- I'M SORRY,
MONEY MAGAZINE.
THIS IS SOME RHETORIC COMING
FROM THE OFFICE OF MONEY AT THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
$3 BILLION
WOULD BE CUT FROM
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
GRANTS THAT HELP FUND PROGRAMS
LIKE T WHEELS
NETWORK, WHICH RECEIVED OVER A
THIRD OF ITS FUNDING FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THE ORGANIZATION DEFENDED ITS
SERVICES SAYING, IT SERVES MEALS
TO TWO POINT 4 MILLION SENIORS
EACH YEAR, INCLUDING 500,000
VETERANS.
WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
WE CANNOT SPEND MONEY ON
PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY SOUND
GOOD.
MEALS AND WE'LL SOUNDS GREAT.
DAN: JUST MARKETING IT DONE.
YES, N PROFESSOR?
KALI: I HAVE CONDUCTED A NUMBER
OF STUDIES THAT DO SUGGEST THAT
MEALS ON WHEELS HAS A POSITIVE
IMPACT FOR CLIENTS AND THE STATE
IN FEDERAL BUDGET.
DAN: MEANING IT IS A RETURN ON
INVESTMENTS?
KALI: YES.
DAN: WE COME BACK, PROFESSOR
SHE MEANS.
IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU ARE
THINKING THESE DAYS -- BANKING
THESE DAYS AND LOOKING FOR
SOPHISTICATION, NAVIGATE CREDIT
UNION HAS UPPED ITS GAME WITH
THE CARD VALET AT.
PUT IT ON YOUR PHONE, IT TELLS
YOU EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH
THAT DEBIT AND CREDIT CARD TO
THE POINT WHERE NO DETAIL IS
LEFT UNTURN FOR ALL OF YOUR
BANKING.
IN THE WORLD OF TRYING TO GET
MORE AND MORE SOPHISTICATED,
NAVIGATE CREDIT UNION PUTS ITS
NOSE UP FRONT WITH THIS
TECHNOLOGY.
CHECK IT OUT AT NAVIGATE CU.COM.
RIGHT BACK WITH PROFESSOR KALI
THOMAS ON WHYN WHEELS IS
A GOOD INVESTMENT.
DAN: HEREÁTHE
IMPACT OF MEALS ON WHEELS.
BEFORE HE COULD EVEN KNOCK,
79-YEAR-OLD BECKY YET HAD THE
HOME OPEN TO HER OLD TO GREATEST
SENATOR.
THE SENATOR HOME FROM WASHI3
DC, DELIVERED HER MEALS ON
WHEELS ON MONDAY.
THE PROGRAM HAS
BEEN AND THE
NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT AFTER THE
PRESIDENT'S ADMINISTRATION
ANNOUNCED THEIR PROPOSAL TO
INCREASE DEFENSE SPENDING AND
CUT OTHER PROGRAMS.
WE WILL MAKE SURE THE PROGRAM
STAYS, FOR YOU AND LOTS OF OTHER
PEOPLE.
THAT POTENTIALLY INCLUDES A
FUNDING SOURCE FOR MEALS ON
WHEELS.
MICK MULVANEY SAID WE HAVE TO
SHOW RESULTS.
WE CANNOT SPEND MONEY BECAUSE
-- ON PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY
SOUND GOOD.
IT IS REALLY SIMPLE
, YOU
DELIVER A HOT MEAL AND GIVE A
VISIT TO A LONELY SENIOR.
THERE IS NO TRICK.
IT IS JUST TS WORTH
DOING.
IN RHODE ISLAND THE PROGRAM
DELIVERED MORE THAN 327 THOUSAND
MEALS AND A SAFETY CHECK.
YATES DID NOT KNOW SOMETHING SHE
CALLED, EVERYTHING TO HER, WAS
SUDDENLY THE CENTER OF A
POLITICAL FIGHT.
REALLY?
WE WILL BE HERE FOR YOU.
DAN: I DO NOT KNOW HOW THE
SENATOR FOUND THAT WOMAN, BUT
THEY ALWAYS FOUND -- TRY TO FIND
A WAY TO PERSONALIZE THE
CONTROVERSY.
PROFESSOR,
TELL ME THE RHETORIC
OUT OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
IS A BLEEDER, RIGHT?
TO ME WHY IT IS NOT.
KALI: HOW TO START IN THE
BEGINNING, HOW WE CAM TO BE
SURE WITH A NUMBER OF HOME
DELIVERED MEALS?
2012, AS A HEALTH SERVICES
RESEARCHER, I HAVE LONG BEEN
INDUSTRY IN THIS TOPIC OF
NURSING -- NURSING HOME
RESIDENTS WHO SHOULD BE CARE FOR
IT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF RESEARCH ON
HOUSE SPENDING, MEDICAID
SERVICES AND ASSISTANT LIVING
RELATED TO THIS
POPULATION OF
LOW CARE RESIDENTS IN NURSING
HOMES.
WHAT IS NOT BEEN DOCUMENTED WAS
THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL SERVICES
AND SPENDING ON FOR BANDS LIKE
HOME DELIVERED MEALS AND ITS
RELATIONSHIP TO FLOW CARE
PRESIDENTS.
IN A PAPER PUBLISHED IN
TWO
THOUSAND 12 WITH MY COLLEAGUE,
WE EXAMINED STATE SPENDING ON
SOCIAL SERVICE PROGRAMS FUNDED
THIRD TITLE III OF THE OLDER
AMERICANS ACT.
WE FOUND THAT OVER A DECADE
,
THEY SPENT INCREASED SPENDING ON
THEIR HOME DELIVERED MEALS
PROGRAM, SOME REDUCTION IN THEIR
POPULATION OF LOW-CARE RESIDENCE
IN NURSING HOMES.
I CAN REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I
PRESENTED THESE RESULTS TO ONE
OF MY COLLEAGUES, SHE SCRATCHED
HER HEAD AND LOOKED AT ME AND
SAID, I DO NOT GET IT.
HOW ARE MEALS KEEPING OLDER
ADULTS OUT OF NURSING HOMES?
HAVING ACTUALLY BEEN A MEALS ON
WHEELS VOLUNTEER
AND THE GRANTED
-- GRANDDAUGHTER OF A CLIENT I
SAID, THE MEALS PROVIDED, THE
SERVICES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM,
MORE THAN JUST MALES.
AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE NEWS
CLIP, THE VOLUNTEERS WHO DELIVER
MEALS CHECK ON CLIENTS, REPORT
CHANGES THEY SEEK.
THEY CONDUCT SAFETY CHECKS AND
ANY UNANSWERED DELIVERY GOES --
IS FOLLOWED UP ON AND
INVESTIGATED.
DAN: WHY WOULD ANYBODY WITH HALF
A BRAIN ACTUALLY -- LOOK
, I'D
ASK YOU TO PROVIDE THE DATA TO
SUPPORT YO THESIS
, BUT I
WOULDN'T QUESTION THE COMMON
SENSE NATU IT.
SO WHOEVER -- YOU ARE SPEAKING
TO GOING, OH MY GOSH, WON'T KNOW
BLANK, SHERLOCK -- NO BLANK,
SHERLOCK!IF SOMEONE IS ELDERLY AND ALONE
GIVEN INTERACTION AND NUTRITION,
THOSE ARE TWO KEY ELEMENTS TO
THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND MOST
PEOPLE WANT TO STAY IN THEIR
HOMES.
PROFESSOR KALI THOMAS: THAT IS
TRUE.
DAN: SO... YOU MAKE PERFECT
SENSE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO DO THE
RESEARCH.
PROFESSOR KALI THOMAS: EXACTLY.
DAN: THE RESEARCH SAYS WAS --
WHAT?
PROFESS KALI THOMAS: AND THE
FOLLOW-UP STUDY WE CONDUCTED, WE
ESTIMATED THAT STATES IF THEY
WERE TO INCREASE THE POPULATION
-- THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE
POTENTIAL TO RECOGNIZE SAVINGS
TO THEIR STATE BUDGET THROUGH
KEEPING THESE LOW CARE RESIDENTS
OUT OF NURSING HOMES.
SO WE ESTIMATED THAT
A 1%
ACROSS-THE-BOARD EXPANSION AND
THE PROGRAM WOULD HAVE EQUATED
TO OVER ABOUT, $109
MILLION IN
SAVINGS TO MEDICAID PROGRAMS.
DAN: PUSH THE 1% EQUIVALENT TO,
LIKE IN RHODE ISLAND, DO WE KNOW
WHAT THAT?
PROFESSOR KALI THOMAS: 1500
ADDITIONAL OLDER ADULTS WOULD
RECEIVE HOME DELIVERED MEALS.
DAN: WHAT IS THE CASH EXPENSE
ATTRIBUTED TO THAT, DO WE KNOW?
PROFESSOR KALI THOMAS: WE
UTILIZE THE AVERAGE COST PER
MEAL.
DAN: WITCHES?
-- I BELIEVE IT'S SEVEN DOLLARS
BUT IT VARIES AND YOUWHICH IS?
PROFESSOR KALI THOMAS: DAN:
OF
POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN RHODE
ISLAND?
PROFESSOR KALI THOMAS: THAT'S
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
RHODE ISLAND, OUR ESTIMATES
SUGGEST THAT AN ADDITIONAL 5000
MEALS THAT WERE SERVED TO OLDER
RHODE ISLANDERS WOULD HAVE
EQUATED TO ABOUT $100,000 IN
SAVINGS FOR THE STATE BUDGET.
DAN: NET?
PROFESSOR THOMAS: NET.
THIS WOULD BE FOR INCREASING
SPENDING ON THESE MEALS, AND A
1% ACROSS-THE-BOARD EXPANSION.
A FEDERAL REGULATION THAT THESE
MEALS WOULD BE TARGETED TO THOSE
--
DAN: MEALS ON WHEELS IS AN
EXCLUSIVELY FEDERALLY FUNDED
PROGRAM?
PROFESSOR THOMAS: IT'S ABOUT
30-35% THE BUDGET FOR MEALS
ON WHEELS
, THROUGH TITLE III
FUNDING FOR THE OLDER AMERICANS
ACT.
DAN: RIGHT.
SO IF THEY KNOCK IT OUT WHICH I
DOUBT THEY WILL, BUT IF CONGRESS
GETS A HOLD OF THIS IT IS A
TOUGH ONE, RIGHT?
MEALS ON WHEELS IS A POPULAR
PROGRAM.
BUT,
EVEN ON THE STATE SIDE, A
STATE MIGHT HAVE TO BE PICKING
UP THE BUNCH OF STUFF.
THE HEALTH-CARE INITIATIVE WENT
SPLAT ON FRIDAY, BUT THERE IS
NEAR $100 MILLION FOR MEDICAID
-- WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE OF
RHODE ISLAND.
WE'LL HAVE A HEAVY CONVERSATION
AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO
FILL THAT VOID AS THE OTHER
STATES WILL HAVE TO.
SAME WITH THIS PROGRAM IT SEEMS
TO ME.
IF THERE IS A NET SAVINGS, HOW
CAN YOU NOT?
WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'LL SEE IF
THE PROFESSOR'S RESEARCH IS
DAN: YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THE
MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM NOT ONLY
PAYS FOR ITSELF, BUT ACTUALLY
CUTS THE CASH FLOW EXPENSE FOR
NURSING HOME AIDE?
PROFESSOR THOMAS: THAT IS WHAT
OUR RESEARCH SAYS.
DAN: WHAT OTHER KINDS OF DATA DO
WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS?
I THINK MOST PEOPLE JUST
THINK,
IT IS A THING WE DO, AND VAPOR,
IN TERMS OF THE CALCULATION ARE
RETURNED, RIGHT -- RETURN.
WHAT ELSE SHOULD WE KNOW?
PROFESSOR THOMAS: ADDITIONAL
WORK WE HAVE DONE SUGGESTS THAT
IT HAS OUTCOMES THAT ARE
DIRECTLY RELATED TO HEALTH CARE
EXPENDITURES, AS WELL AS THE
QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING.
IN A STUDY WE RECENTLY COMPLETED
WITH MEALS ON WHEELS AMERICA, A
RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED TRIAL,
CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MOST
RIGOROUS TYPES OF RESEARCH AND
EVALUATIONS FOR PROGRAMS, WE
FOUND THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO
RECEIVE DAILY DELIVERED MEALS OR
WEEKLY DELIVERED MEALS HAVE
REDUCTIONS IN THEIR FEELINGS OF
LONELINESS.
THOSE WHO HAD DAILY VISITS FROM
THEIR MEAL DELIVERY DRIVER HAD
INCREASED RATES OF REDUCTIONS IN
THEIR LONELINESS.
THIS SOMETHING NICE
, WARM AND
FUZZY OUTCOME, BUT IT HAS BEEN
DIRECTLY LINKED TO HEALTH AND
MORTALITY.
IN A RECENT STUDY, IT WAS
ESTIMATED THAT OLDER ADULTS WHO
WERE LONELY WERE TWO TIMES AT
RISK OF PREMATURE MORTALITY
,
COMPARED TO OLDER ADULTS WHO
WERE OBESE OR SMOKING.
IN OTHER WORDS, BEING LONELY IS
MORE DANGEROUS FOR YOUR HEALTH
THAN SMOKING OR BEING
OVERWEIGHT.
WE ALSO FOUND IN THE SAME STUDY
THAT PARTICIPANTS WHO RECEIVED
HOME DELIVERED MEALS WERE AT
DECREASED RATES OF FALLING
DURING THE STUDY.
Y PERIOD.
FALLS AS A PUBLIC HEALTH
CONCERN, THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF
BOTH FATAL AND NON-FATAL
INJURIES AMONGST OLDER ADULTS.
AND 2014, IT WAS ESTIMATED TO
COST THE MEDICARE PROGRAM $31
BILLION.
DAN: I DO NOT THINK THAT DATA
HAS RESONATED AMONGST THE
POPULATION, THAT FALLS, THE
SENIOR POPULATION CERTAINLY
KNOWS, THOSE TAKING CARE OF MOM
AND DAD KNOW, BUT DOES SHE SEE A
COUPLE INFOMERCIALS EVERY ONCE
AND A WHILE, REGARDING SENIORS
FALLING DOWN, MEDICAL ALERT
SOUNDERS AND PEOPLE FALLING
DOWN.
THIS IS INFORMATION THAT I THINK
NEEDS MORE EXPOSURE.
, ALLAH YOU BEING HERE.
IT'S INTERESTING, THERE ARE SO
MANY ARGUMENTS FOR SOCIAL
SERVICES AND THE SUPPORT OF
SOCIAL SERVICES, IT'S HARD FOR
PEOPLE LIKE ME TO BREAK THIS
STUFF DOWN.
FOR EVERYDAY PEOPLE WHO VOTE AND
HAVE A THOUGHT ON TAXATION AND
BUDGETARY SPENDING, WHAT IS
REALLY THE THING THAT RETURNS
INVESTMENT, SAVES OTHER KINDS OF
COSTS, OR IS A THROWAWAY PROGRAM
WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE?
IT'S HARD ACROSS THE
SPECTRUM OF
SOCIAL SERVICE TO FIGURE OUT
WHICH KEEPS THESE SOCIAL SERVICE
-- AND THE SOCIAL SERVICE
INDUSTRY BUSY FOR THE SAKE OF
IT, AND WHAT ACTUALLY MEANS
SOMETHING, RIGHT?
PROFESSOR THOMAS: CORRECT.
I WILL SAY THAT OUR RESEARCH
SUGGESTS THAT THE FEDERAL
CONTRIBUTIONS TO MEALS ON WHEELS
GIVES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT A
GOOD DEAL.
30% OF FUNDS THAT ARE PROVIDED
TO MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAMS COME
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
60% ARE REQUIRED TO BE MATCHED
BY STATES.
THESE PROGRAMS ARE ALSO FUNDED
FOOD -- IT'S HER VOLUNTEERS
DELIVERING MEALS IN HELPING IN
THE KITCHEN, THE OFFICE FREE OF
CHARGE.
OUR RESEARCH SUGGESTS
THAT THE
OUTCOME FROM THESE PROGRAMS CAN
POTENTIALLY REDUCE HEALTH CARE
COSTS AS WELL AS ADVERSE
HEALTH
PROBLEMS DIRECTLY RELATE --
RELATED TO THESE COSTS.
DAN: WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO GET
TRACTION ON THESE ARGUMENTS?
WHAT IS THE PR PLAY?
PROFESSOR THOMAS: WE HAVE BEEN
DISSEMINATING THESE RESULTS TO
-- WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE
MEDIA TEAM, FOR UNIVERSITIES AND
MEALS ON WHEELS AMERICA, THE
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR HOME
DELIVERED MEALS PROGRAM.
AND GETTING THE WORD OUT THERE,
SPEAKING TO POLICYMAKERS, COMING
ON SHOWS LIKE YOURS, SHARING
THIS WORK.
DAN: I WONDER WHAT -- WHETHER WE
WILL GET INTO A BIG CONVERSATION
IN AMERICA WITH POTENTIAL
SIGNIFICANT CUPS COMING DOWN
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
STATES HAVING TO MAKE -- CUTS
COMING DOWN FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, STATES HAVING TO
MAKE DECISIONS TO SUSTAIN
THINGS
THAT ARE PARTIALLY OR FULLY
FEDERALLY FUNDED.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING 3-4
YEARS.
PROFESSOR THOMAS: IT WILL BE
INDEED.
DAN: HOW MANY STATE HEARINGS DO
YOU THINK YOU WILL ATTEND?
YOUR INPUT WILL BE VALUED.
YOU WILL BE UP AT SMITH HILL,
ARGUING HIS POINTS?
DAPROFESSOR THOMAS: TO THE EXTENT
THAT THE -- THESE WILL BE
HELPFUL, ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED WITH IN THE PAST, THE
STATE OF RHODE ISLAND, THE
PROGRAM HERE WAS TRYING TO GET
ITS FUNDING RESTORED TO WHAT IT
WAS IN 2008.
THANKFULLY IN THE LAST YEAR OR
TWO, FUNDING HAS REGAINED TO THE
LEVELS IT WAS ALMOST DECADE -- A
DECADE AGO.
WE'RE STILL NOT PAYING THE
PRICES, AND THE NEED HAS
INCREASED.
DAN: WE WILL HAVE TO THROUGHOUT
THE CONCEPT OF MEALS -- THROW
OUT THE CONCEPT OF MEALS ON
WHEELS -- IT IS A HOT BUTTON.
FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW AND LOVE IT
THEY WILL FIGHT FOR IT, WE WILL
SEE HOW IT GOES.
WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK AS THE
ARGUMENT CONTINUES.
THANK YOU, PROFESSOR.
DAN: IT'S A STRUGGLE TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT IS A WASTED GOVERNMENT
PROGRAM, AND THAT WHICH IS A
RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
MY GUESS IS -- I GO ON THE RADIO
AND ASK YOU ABOUT CUTTING MEALS
ON WHEELS, THAT THE YOU KNOW
WHAT WILL HIT THE PROVERBIAL FAN
.
I THINK.
WE WILL TEST IT.
THANKS FOR TUNING IN.
WE WILL SEE YOU HERE TOMORROW
NIGHT.
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