>>ANNOUNCER: TODAY IS CHRISTMAS
EVE AND YOUR FAMILY IS PROBABLY
GATHERED TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE.
YOUR CHILDREN EXCITEDLY BEGIN
TO OPEN THEIR PRESENTS.
SOMETIME DURING THE NIGHT YOU
STOP AND YOU OPEN THE FAMILY
BIBLE TO READ THE CHRISTMAS
STORY OF HOW JESUS WAS BORN,
A STORY 2.8 BILLION PEOPLE
IN OUR WORLD HAVE NEVER HEARD.
MATTHEW RECORDS: "THIS IS HOW
JESUS THE MESSIAH WAS BORN.
HIS MOTHER, MARY, WAS ENGAGED
TO BE MARRIED TO JOSEPH.
BUT BEFORE THE MARRIAGE TOOK
PLACE, WHILE SHE WAS STILL
A VIRGIN, SHE BECAME PREGNANT
THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLY
SPIRIT. JOSEPH, TO WHOM
SHE WAS ENGAGED,
WAS A RIGHTEOUS MAN AND DID
NOT WANT TO DISGRACE HER
PUBLICLY, SO HE DECIDED TO
BREAK THE ENGAGEMENT QUIETLY.
AS HE CONSIDERED THIS,
AN ANGEL OF THE LORD APPEARED
TO HIM IN A DREAM AND SAID,
"JOSEPH, SON OF DAVID, DO NOT
BE AFRAID TO TAKE MARY AS YOUR
WIFE. FOR THE CHILD WITHIN HER
WAS CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY
SPIRIT. AND SHE WILL HAVE
A SON, AND YOU ARE TO NAME HIM
JESUS, FOR HE WILL SAVE
HIS PEOPLE FROM THEIR SINS."
ALL OF THIS OCCURRED
TO FULFILL THE LORD'S MESSAGE
THROUGH HIS PROPHET: 'LOOK!
THE VIRGIN WILL CONCEIVE
A CHILD! SHE WILL GIVE BIRTH
TO A SON, AND THEY WILL
CALL HIM, IMMANUEL, WHICH MEANS
"GOD IS WITH US."'"
THIS IS THE TRUE MEANING
OF CHRISTMAS. GOD HIMSELF
TOOK ON HUMAN FLESH AND BECAME
A MAN TO DIE ON THE CROSS
TO PAY FOR EVERY PERSON'S SINS.
BUT WHAT IF YOU WERE ONE OF
THE 2.8 BILLION PEOPLE IN
THE WORLD WHO HAVE NEVER HEARD
ABOUT JESUS? WHAT IF YOU SPOKE
ONE OF THE 4000 LANGUAGES
IN WHICH THE BIBLE HAS NOT
BEEN TRANSLATED? AND IF SOMEONE
WANTED TO KNOW THE CHRISTMAS
STORY AND THEY WERE GIVEN
A BIBLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD COULDN'T READ
A BIBLE IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE
EVEN IF YOU GAVE THEM ONE?
>>MORGAN JACKSON: 50% OF
THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS
FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE,
AND SOME 70% OF THE WORLD ARE
WHAT WE CALL ORAL COMMUNITIES,
WHICH MEANS THEIR TRADITIONS
AND THEIR HABITS ARE NOT
TO READ, BUT TO HEAR.
>>ANNOUNCER: SO 30 YEARS AGO
FAITH COMES BY HEARING STARTED
MAKING AUDIO RECORDINGS OF
THE BIBLE SO PEOPLE COULD
LISTEN TO THE BIBLE"
IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.
>>JACKSON: AND THE GOAL IS
ACTUALLY TO DO A DRAMATISED
RECORDING OF THE WHOLE NEW
TESTAMENT, MINIMUM, IN EVERY
SINGLE LANGUAGE OF THE WORLD
SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR THE BIBLE
IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.
>>ANNOUNCER: SO FAR FAITH
COMES BY HEARING HAS MADE
1120 DIFFERENT AUDIO LANGUAGE
RECORDINGS OF THE BIBLE.
AND TODAY YOU WILL HEAR
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE HEAR
THE BIBLE IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE
FOR THE FIRST TIME?
MY GUEST IS MORGAN JACKSON,
DIRECTOR OF FAITH COMES BY
HEARING, AN INTERNATIONAL
CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION THAT
HAS WORKED WITH WYCLIFFE AND
THE BIBLE SOCIETY TRANSLATORS
AND SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
MAKING AUDIO RECORDINGS
OF THE BIBLE THAT ARE NOW
AVAILABLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN US FOR
THIS SPECIAL CHRISTMAS EDITION
OF THE JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW.
>>JOHN ANKERBERG: WELCOME TO
OUR PROGRAM.
I'M JOHN ANKERBERG.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
TONIGHT IS CHRISTMAS EVE,
AND MANY OF YOU, YOU'RE OPENING
PRESENTS AND YOU'RE READING
THE CHRISTMAS STORY RIGHT OUT
OF YOUR BIBLE. BUT WHAT IF
YOU WERE ONE OF TWO MILLION
PASTORS THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE
A BIBLE IN THEIR LANGUAGE TO
READ OUT OF? WHAT IF YOU WERE
A PERSON THAT WAS LIVING AROUND
THE WORLD THAT HAD
NO ACCESS TO A BIBLE OR EVEN
TO A CHRISTIAN TO HEAR ABOUT
THE CHRISTMAS STORY?
IN FACT, MORGAN, HOW MANY
PEOPLE IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW
HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD ABOUT
JESUS AND HAVE NO BIBLE
AT ALL IN THEIR LANGUAGE?
>>MORGAN JACKSON: JOHN THERE'S
2.8 BILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE
NEVER HEARD ABOUT JESUS CHRIST.
AND THEN THERE'S 7,140
LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN THE WORLD
TODAY. WYCLIFFE AND BIBLE
SOCIETIES HAVE TRANSLATED ABOUT
2,100 OF THOSE, HAVE ACTUALLY
DONE PORTIONS IN ANOTHER 1,000.
BUT THERE ARE 4,000 LANGUAGES
THAT HAVE NOTHING.
NOW, HALF OF THOSE HAVE
SOMEBODY WORKING IN THEM,
BUT NOTHING'S BEEN DONE YET,
NO SCRIPTURE FOR THEM TO HEAR
OR READ.
>>ANKERBERG: YES. AND I'M JUST
THINKING OF, IF YOU WANT TO
GIVE A GIFT, MANY OF YOU'VE
GOTTEN A GIFT AND MAYBE
YOU GOT SOME SOCKS THAT
YOU DON'T LIKE OR YOU GOT
A TIE THAT YOU CAN'T WEAR
OR YOU GOT A SHIRT. YOU SAY,
"I DON'T WANT THAT."
AND THE KIDS SAY,
"I DON'T LIKE MY PRESENT."
LET ME JUST TELL YOU THIS.
THERE ARE TWO MILLION PASTORS
IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW THAT
IF YOU GAVE THEM AN AUDIO
PROCLAIMER THAT HAS THE BIBLE
IN THEIR LANGUAGE, THAT WOULD
BE LIKE AN ETERNAL GIFT.
THAT WOULD BE LIKE A GOLD
BULLION BAR TO THEM.
IT'S THE MOST VALUABLE THING
YOU COULD EVER GIVE TO THEM.
BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO
PASTOR A CHURCH AND THEY'VE
GOT NO BIBLE. AND THE PEOPLE
DOWN BELOW THAT THEY'RE
PASTORING, THEY'VE GOT
NO BIBLE IN THEIR LANGUAGE.
SO THEY HAVE NOTHING.
THERE'S TWO MILLION OF THEM,
ALRIGHT? AND WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT HOW CAN WE PROVIDE
THESE LISTENING DEVICES,
AUDIO RECORDINGS OF THE BIBLE,
THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ON SPECIAL
DEVICES THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO
PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF
THE WORLD THAT HAVE NO BIBLE
RIGHT NOW. AND MORGAN,
LET'S GO BACK FOR A MOMENT.
I WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT
THE AUDIO PROCLAIMER.
YOUR STAFF INVENTED AND CREATED
THE PROCLAIMER. WHAT MAKES IT
SO UNIQUE, SO SPECIAL?
>>MORGAN JACKSON: WELL,
THE PROCLAIMER IS ACTUALLY
A DEDICATED AUDIO BIBLE.
SO IT'S A DIGITAL DEVICE;
CAN'T BE ERASED; CAN'T BE
ADDED TO. THE MATERIAL IS MADE
OUT OF THE SAME THING YOU MAKE
FOOTBALL HELMETS OUT OF.
SO IT'S TOUGH.
IT HAS A SOLAR PANEL.
AND THAT SOLAR PANEL,
SIX HOURS IN THE SUN WILL ALLOW
YOU TO RECHARGE BATTERIES THAT
CAN BE RECHARGED 3,000 TIMES,
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY HEAR
THE WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT
1,000 TIMES. IF YOU DON'T HAVE
THE SUN, THEN 10 MINUTES OF
CRANKING, AND IT WILL PLAY
FOR 40 MINUTES. SOME PLACES AND
COMMUNITIES HAVE ELECTRICITY
FOR A FEW HOURS A WEEK OR
A DAY A WEEK, AND SO THERE'S
A POWER CORD THAT THEY CAN
PLUG IN AND ACTUALLY
RECHARGE THE UNIT.
>>ANKERBERG: WHAT'S INCREDIBLE
ABOUT THAT IS YOU BUILT INTO
THIS A VERY SPECIAL LOUD
SPEAKING SYSTEM.
TELL US ABOUT IT.
>>JACKSON: WELL, ACTUALLY
THE, THE ENGINEERS CREATED IT
BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE WANT
TO COME AND LISTEN. SOMETIMES
WE'LL HAVE AUDIENCES OF OVER
1,000 UNDER THE TREES.
AND SO IT CAN ACTUALLY BE
HEARD BY AT LEAST 1,000 PEOPLE
EASILY. NOW JOHN, I DON'T THINK
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT
JUST REACHING PEOPLE.
THE PROCLAIMER GATHERS PEOPLE
IN GROUPS. ON AVERAGE A PASTOR
WILL USE IT IN FOUR GROUPS;
AND IN THE FIRST YEAR NINETY
PEOPLE WILL BE DISCIPLED.
HALF OF THOSE WILL BE NEW
BELIEVERS. BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T
COME TO CHRIST; THEY'VE HEARD
THE WHOLE NEW TESTAMENT IN
THEIR MOTHER TONGUE.
AND THEY'RE NOW REACHING OTHER
PEOPLE. THEY'RE DISCIPLES.
>>ANKERBERG: YEAH, THE FACT
IS, IS THAT ONE PROCLAIMER
REACHED 10,000 FOLKS AND
5000-6000 PEOPLE ACTUALLY
ACCEPTED THE LORD.
TELL HOW THAT HAPPENED.
>>JACKSON, YOU KNOW IN MYANMAR
WHEN WE GIVE THESE TO
THE BUDIST CONVERTS, THEY TAKE
THEM INTO COMMUNITIES;
THEY PLAY IT FAMILY-BY FAMILY.
THEY WANT TO GET ALL THE WAY
THROUGH JOHN SO PEOPLE KNOW
THAT JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER GOD
[BUT] THE ONLY GOD. BUT IN
THESE COMMUNITIES THEY DON'T
GET IT TO GO FAMILY-BY-FAMILY
BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN
THE COMMUNITY GET JEALOUS AND
SAY, "HEY, WE WANT TO ALL
LISTEN." SO A SINGLE PROCLAIMER
REACHED WHOLE VILLAGE BUT
THEN OTHER VILLAGES HEARD AND
SO IN THE EVENING THEY WOULD
COME TO LISTEN. THEY DEMANDED
THAT THE REGIONAL CHIEF HELP
BECAUSE THEY SAID THIS ONE
VILLAGE... "IT'S NOT FAIR."
AND SO THEY DEMANDED THAT
HE TAKE A PROCLAIMER AND THAT
HE MOVE IT FROM COMMUNITY
TO COMMUNITY-TO-COMMUNITY.
AND OVER A YEAR'S PERIOD THEY
SAID OVER 10,000 PEOPLE HAD
HEARD IT. AND IN COMBINATION
WITH THE JESUS FILM SOMEWHERE
BETWEEN FIVE AND SIX THOUSAND
OF THEM HAD MADE DECISIONS
FOR CHRIST.
>>ANKERBERG: YEAH. HOW MANY
CHURCHES ARE WAITING TO GET
ONE OF THESE, AND
THEIR PASTOR ARE WAITING TO
GET ONE OF THESE, IN THE WORLD
RIGHT NOW?
>>JACKSON: JOHN, THERE'S OVER
TWO MILLION CHURCHES AMONG
THE EXTREMELY POOR WHERE
PASTORS HAVE A SIXTH GRADE
EDUCATION. AND AN AUDIO BIBLE
IN THEIR LANGUAGE IS THE ONLY
WAY THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO
DISCIPLE THEIR PEOPLE, BECAUSE
THE PEOPLE ARE ILLITERATE.
EVEN THE PASTOR IS ILLITERATE
IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE OFTEN.
AND IT'S HIS ONLY TOOL FOR
EVANGELISM. BECAUSE IT'S
IN THE MOTHER TONGUE, HE CAN
GO COMMUNITY BY COMMUNITY.
>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT,
YOU PRE-LOAD THAT PROCLAIMER,
YOU SEND IT OVERSEAS AND YOU
HAVE ONE OF YOUR WORKERS COME
AND YOU TRAIN THE PASTOR.
BUT BEFORE YOU GIVE THAT TO
THEM, WHAT DO YOU MAKE THEM
PROMISE TO DO?
>>JACKSON: NOW, WE HAVE 410
DIFFERENT PARTNERS, NATIONALS.
AND SO THE NATIONAL WORKERS
GET A BICYCLE OR A HORSE, AND
THEY'LL GO VILLAGE BY VILLAGE.
THEY REQUIRE THAT THE PASTOR
MAKE A COMMITMENT TO LISTEN
THROUGH THE WHOLE NEW
TESTAMENT EVERY YEAR
BY LISTENING A MINIMUM
OF 30 MINUTES A WEEK FOLLOWED
BY AN OPEN TIME OF DISCUSSION.
THEY'LL VISIT HIM TWICE
TO MAKE SURE HE'S DOING IT.
AFTER THE SECOND VISIT,
IF HE IS, IT GOES FROM
A LOAN TO A GIFT, AND IT
ACTUALLY BECOMES THE PASTOR'S.
>>ANKERBERG: HOW IMPORTANT IS
THIS TO A PASTOR WHO CAN'T
READ AND DOESN'T HAVE A BIBLE
IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE?
>>JACKSON: IT'S AN ETERNAL
GIFT. I MEAN, IT'S THE MOST
PRECIOUS THING THAT THEY WILL
HAVE EVER RECEIVED.
IT'S THE LIVING WORD OF GOD
THAT LETS THEM DISCIPLE,
EVANGELIZE, AND PERSONALLY
LEARN THE WORD OF GOD.
>>ANKERBERG: AND RIGHT NOW
WE'VE GOT TWO MILLION PASTORS
THAT ARE REQUESTING ONE OF
THESE SO THEY'LL HAVE IT
FOR THEIR CHURCH.
>>JACKSON: YOU'VE GOT TWO
MILLION CHURCHES IN THE WORLD
THAT THE MINUTE THEY GET IT,
THEY WILL USE IT TO DISCIPLE
THEIR PEOPLE AND REACH THE
COMMUNITIES AROUND THEM.
>>ANKERBERG: AND MORGAN,
I WANT TO TELL YOU SOME STORIES
TONIGHT, BECAUSE CHRISTMAS EVE
IS A TIME FOR STORIES.
AND GUATEMALA IS CLOSE TO
YOUR HEART BECAUSE YOU FIRST
STARTED THERE. TALK ABOUT IT.
>> JACKSON: IT WAS ONE OF
THE VERY FIRST PLACES WE BEGAN
TO WORK WITH WYCLIFFE AND
THE BIBLE SOCIETY.
SO TRANSLATORS HAD TRANSLATED
THE BIBLE ONLY TO FIND THAT
ALMOST NOBODY COULD READ IT.
BUT ONE OF THE COMMUNITIES
THAT I LOVE, IS THE BIBLE
TRANSLATOR HAD FINISHED IT.
WE'D DONE A DRAMA RECORDING
OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
IN THAT LANGUAGE. AND IN
THIS COMMUNITY WAS A CRIPPLE.
AND SO THIS GUY CRAWLED ON
THE GROUND. HE DIDN'T HAVE
ANY OTHER WAY TO GET AROUND.
HE WAS REJECTED BY
THE COMMUNITY, SO HE SLEPT
UNDER ANY KIND OF EAVE OR ROOF
THAT HE COULD FIND. HE BEGGED
FOR FOOD. WELL, WHEN THE BIBLE
WAS DONE, OF COURSE
HE'S COMPLETELY ILLITERATE.
HE GOES TO THE, THE MISSIONARY
AND HE PLEADS WITH HIM, CAN
HE HAVE ONE OF THE AUDIO
BIBLES? NOW, NOWADAYS WE USE
WHAT WE CALL A PROCLAIMER.
SO THIS DEVICE IS A DIGITAL
PLAYER THAT HAS THE AUDIO
NEW TESTAMENT ON IT. SOLAR
PANEL WHICH RECHARGES BATTERIES
SO YOU DON'T NEED ANY MONEY.
BATTERIES RECHARGE
3,000 TIMES. IF IT'S RAINING
YOU HAVE A HAND CRANK.
YOU CAN CRANK IT FOR
10 MINUTES AND IT WILL PLAY
FOR 40. AND 1,000 PEOPLE
CAN LISTEN TO IT EASILY.
SO HE BEGAN TO TAKE, THIS
CRIPPLE, THE AUDIO BIBLE WITH
HIM. SO THE, THE MISSIONARY
GAVE IT TO HIM, AND HE WAS
LISTENING AND LISTENING AND
LISTENING. WELL, HE THEN WOULD
BE LISTENING OUTSIDE
SOMEBODY'S HOME. AND SO
IT'S IN THEIR LANGUAGE,
AND SO THE WOMAN WOULD INVITE
[HIM] IN. AND SO HE WOULD COME
IN AND THEY WOULD GIVE HIM
A TORTILLA AND HE WOULD PLAY
THE SCRIPTURES. WELL,
WHAT HAPPENED IS THE REPUTATION
HAPPENED AROUND THAT EVERYWHERE
A FAMILY WAS LISTENING
TO THE SCRIPTURE, THE FATHER
STOPPED BEATING THE WIFE,
HE STOPPED GETTING DRUNK.
AND, AND SO THE WIVES IN
THE COMMUNITY STARTED INVITING
HIM TO COME. WELL HE,
HE COULDN'T MOVE AROUND
FAST ENOUGH, SO THEY BUILT HIM
A CART. THEY'D DRAG HIM FROM
HOUSE, HUT-TO-HUT-TO HUT,
OR COMMUNITY-TO-COMMUNITY,
AND HE PLAYED IT.
AND SO MANY PEOPLE CAME TO
FAITH, AND ALL THESE FAMILIES
WERE TRANSFORMED. AND HE KNEW
SCRIPTURE SO WELL BECAUSE
HE WAS LISTENING ALL THE TIME,
GETTING WITH THE MISSIONARIES,
THAT THEY THEN BUILT HIM
A HOUSE, AND HE BECAME
THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH
OF ALL THOSE FAMILIES WHO CAME
TO FAITH IN CHRIST.
AND SO I JUST WANT...
I LOVE THE FACT THAT GOD CAN
USE THE POOR AND ILLITERATE TO
REACH OTHERS. NOW, ONE OF
MY OTHER EXPERIENCES WAS IN
COLOMBIA. AND SO WE HAVE
WORKERS THERE THAT ARE TAKING
THE AUDIO BIBLE CHURCH
BY CHURCH. BUT IT'S DANGEROUS
IN SOME OF THE AREAS.
WELL, ONE OF THE WORKERS WAS
ACTUALLY GOING UP THE RIVER IN
A BOAT, AND HE FELT LIKE GOD
SAID KEEP GOING UP.
WELL, NOW HE'S IN A, A NARCO
TRAFFICKER AREA, GUERILLA
AREA. HE'S BECOMING AFRAID
BECAUSE HE COULD GET KILLED.
BUT THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD
KEPT SAYING, "GO FARTHER,
GO FARTHER." AND HE WAS LIKE,
"UH,..." "GO FARTHER,
GO FARTHER." AND SO HE KEPT
GOING UP. HE'S GETTING
MORE AND MORE NERVOUS.
HE'S PASSING SMALL COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN THE LORD SAID HERE.
SO HE PULLS INTO ONE OF THESE
ROUGH WOODEN DOCKS ALONG
THE RIVER, GETS OUT OF
THE BOAT. AND EVERYBODY IN
THE COMMUNITY, STRANGERS DON'T
COME THERE BECAUSE IF THEY DO,
THEY'LL GET KILLED.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS GUY
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY
HE'S THERE. A WOMAN COMES UP
TO HIM AND ASKS HIM WHY IS
HE THERE? AND SO HE BRINGS OUT
THE AUDIO BIBLE AND HE SAYS,
"WELL, THE LORD HAS TOLD ME
TO BRING YOU A GIFT OF
THE AUDIO BIBLE."
AND THE WOMAN JUST SCREAMS,
"AAAH!" AND JUST COMES RUNNING
DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE,
THE VILLAGE. EVERYBODY'S COMING
OUT, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT
THIS GUY WHO CAUSED HER TO
SCREAM. HE'S NOT SURE WHETHER
TO JUMP IN THE BOAT OR FLEE
OR WHAT TO DO. A FEW MINUTES
LATER SHE COMES DRAGGING
A BLIND MAN DOWN THROUGH
THE CENTER OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT HE DISCOVERS IS THIS
BLIND MAN WAS THE PASTOR,
AND HE HAD A WEEK BEFORE BEEN
PRAYING, SAYING, "LORD, I'VE
HEARD THERE'S AN AUDIO BIBLE.
MY PEOPLE ARE ILLITERATE;
I CAN'T READ; HOW CAN I LEAD
THEM WITHOUT YOUR WORD?
PLEASE SEND ME..."
WELL THE, THE COMMUNITY HAD
PRAYED WITH HIM, BUT THEY
DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WOULD EVER
HAPPEN. SO WHEN THIS GUY CAME
AND SAID, "THE LORD HAS SENT ME
WITH THE AUDIO BIBLE,"
THE WOMAN JUST SCREAMED AND
RAN, BECAUSE IT WAS
IMPOSSIBILITY. GOD HAD SENT
THE GIFT OF THE WORD OF GOD.
BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT GIFT
CAME, JOHN, WAS BECAUSE
SOMEBODY LIKE YOU OR ONE OF
YOUR LISTENERS SAID, "I'LL
PROVIDE THAT FOR THAT PASTOR."
>>ANKERBERG: MORGAN, I LOVE
WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THESE AUDIO
PROCLAIMERS WHERE YOU PUT
THE WORD OF GOD INTO
THE LANGUAGE OF PEOPLE THAT
HAVE NEVER HEARD THE BIBLE
BEFORE. AND YET SOMETIMES
IT'S REALLY RUGGED WHEN YOU'RE
RECORDING THESE THINGS.
YOU WERE MAKING A MUSLIM
RECORDING IN A CERTAIN COUNTRY
AND CERTAIN THINGS HAPPENED.
TELL ME ABOUT IT.
>>JACKSON: WELL, YOU KNOW,
THE BIBLE SOCIETY AND WYCLIFFE,
SEED COMPANY, THESE GROUPS GO
IN AND SPEND YEARS AND YEARS
AND YEARS IN DANGEROUS
SITUATIONS TRANSLATING
THE SCRIPTURE. AND WHEN
THEY'RE DONE OFTENTIMES
THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE
CAN'T READ OR IN AN ISLAMIC
CONTEXT, THE PRINTED BOOK IS
OFTEN TIMES VERY DANGEROUS.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH THE NEW
TESTAMENT IS CALLED THE INGIL,
JESUS IS CALLED ISA AND
HE'S ONE OF THEIR PROPHETS,
IT'S DANGEROUS. AND SO
THEY WANT US TO COME IN AND
DO A RECORDING. NOW, WE HAVE
44 TEAMS AROUND THE WORLD THAT
ARE NATIONALS. AND SO
THEY COME INTO THESE AREAS
WHERE THE TRANSLATORS ARE,
AND THEY'LL GATHER 25 DIFFERENT
VOICES. WELL, SOME OF THESE
ISLAMIC COMMUNITIES THERE ARE
NO CHRISTIANS YET.
AND THE WAY THEY'RE GOING
TO BECOME BELIEVERS IS
BY HEARING. SO THEY'LL INVITE
THEM. NOW, THEY WANT TO MAKE
SOME MONEY, AND THEY KIND OF
MAKE THE EXCUSE UP,
"WELL, THIS IS ISA,
OUR PROPHET; THE INGIL IS
OUR HOLY BOOK; AND SO WE WANT
TO RECORD IT." AND SO IN ONE OF
THESE AREAS WHERE WE WERE DOING
A RECORDING, OUR TEAM IS
TWO PEOPLE AND THEY WERE DOING
THE RECORDING. IT WAS GOING ON
WELL. AND THEN SUDDENLY
ONE DAY THE, THE RECORDISTS ARE
HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AND
THERE'S A LOT OF, OF CONFLICT
GOING ON. AND SO THE,
THE RECORDING TEAM IS TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
WELL, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY LAY
OUT A PAPER, AND IN THE PAPER
ARE THESE PEOPLE BEATING
MISSIONARIES AND DRIVING THEM
OUT OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THERE ARE CHRISTIANS, AND
THEY'RE SAYING, "THIS IS WHAT
SHOULD BE DONE TO EVERY
CHRISTIAN. EVERY GOOD MUSLIM
SHOULD BE DOING THIS."
SO NOW HERE THEY ARE RECORDING
THE INGIL WITH CHRISTIANS AND
THEY'RE SAYING,
"ARE WE BAD MUSLIMS?
SHOULD WE BE BEATING YOU OR
KILLING YOU? WELL, OF COURSE,
[CHUCKLE] THEY'D BECOME FRIENDS
WITH THESE GUYS AND THEY'VE
BEEN HEARING SCRIPTURE,
AND SOME OF THEM WERE, WERE
COMING TO A PLACE OF READY
TO ACCEPT CHRIST.
AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO
DO. SO THEY WENT TO TALK TO
A LOCAL IMAM. THEY TOOK
THE PAPER AND THEY SAID,
"WHAT SHOULD WE DO?
YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE
BEEN DOING. WE'RE RECORDING
THE INGIL. SHOULD WE, YOU KNOW,
DO WE BEAT THESE GUYS THAT
HAVE COME IN, OR WHAT DO
WE DO?" WELL, THE IMAM
QUESTIONED THEM,
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING,"
AND SAW THE WORK THAT THEY'RE
DOING. AND HE SAID,
"WELL THIS ISA IS OUR PROPHET,
THE INGIL IS OUR HOLY BOOK."
AND SO HE BASICALLY BLESSED
THEM AND SAID, "YOU'RE DOING
A GOOD THING. GO AND DO IT
WELL." OF COURSE OUR TEAM
IS SITTING BACK IN THE STUDIO
NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GOING TO
BE ALIVE IN A FEW HOURS,
BEATEN IN A FEW HOURS.
AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO STAY
AND CONTINUE THAT RECORDING.
NOW, WHEN RECORDINGS LIKE THAT
ARE DONE, OFTEN IT'S THE MICRO
SD CARDS THAT WE USE TO DO
THE DISTRIBUTION. BECAUSE
TO HAND THEM A BOOK CAN GET
THEM KILLED. BUT A MICRO-SD
CARD, YOU HAVE THE TEXT,
YOU HAVE THE AUDIO, AND
YOU CAN HAVE THE JESUS FILM.
AND THEY CAN THEN PUT IT
IN THEIR PHONE, WATCH IT
PRIVATELY WITH THEIR FAMILY.
SO ONCE THESE RECORDINGS ARE
DONE, LIKE ON THE ISLAND
OF BALI,... SO, YOU THINK OF
INDONESIA AS BEING MUSLIM.
>>ANKERBERG: RIGHT.
>>JACKSON: BUT ACTUALLY BALI
IS ALMOST ALL HINDU.
AND SO MY WIFE, MARY
AND I WERE THERE A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO. IN THAT ISLAND
THEY ACTUALLY USE THE SMALLER
PROCLAIMER BECAUSE
THE LISTENING GROUPS ARE SMALL.
AND WE TALKED TO SOME OF
THE WORKERS THERE AND THEY WERE
TELLING US THAT THEY HAD BEEN
TRYING TO USE INDONESIAN;
ALL THE EDUCATION WAS
IN [INDONESIAN]; ALL OF
THE SCRIPTURE WERE
IN INDONESIAN. AND EVERYBODY
REJECTED IT. WHEN THEY BROUGHT
THE LITTLE PROCLAIMERS IN
THOUGH, AND PEOPLE WERE HEARD
THE SCRIPTURE IN BALINESE,
THEY SAID, "OH, THAT'S CLEAR!
NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT." NOW, WHAT WAS REALLY
INTERESTING IS, WE MOVED
AROUND THE ISLAND IN LISTENING
GROUPS AMONG HINDUS THAT
HAD COME TO FAITH IN CHRIST.
AND MOST OF THEM WERE PEOPLE
THAT HAD BEEN SICK, SERIOUSLY
ILL. AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT
IS IN HINDUISM THIS WHOLE IDEA
OF KARMA. SO IF YOU'RE SICK,
IF YOU'RE POOR,
IT'S BECAUSE OF BAD KARMA
BECAUSE YOU DID SOMETHING
IN A PREVIOUS LIFE AND NOW
YOU'RE BEING PUNISHED FOR IT.
SO THEY HAD THIS BELIEF THAT
THESE SICK PEOPLE WITH CANCER,
WITH THIS OR THAT, DID
SOMETHING WRONG. AND SO PEOPLE
WOULD STAY AWAY FROM THEM.
SO WHEN THE AUDIO BIBLE CAME
IN AND THEY INVITED SOME OF
THESE SICK PEOPLE TO COME AND
GATHER AND LISTEN, THEY WERE
REJECTED BY THE COMMUNITY.
THEY WERE INTERESTED.
WELL, AS THEY HEARD,
JESUS IS THE HEALER,
HE IS HEALING CONSTANTLY.
NOW WHAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED
ABOUT BEFORE IS THAT
ORAL PEOPLE CANNOT SEPARATE
THEMSELVES FROM A STORY.
SO IN THESE LISTENING GROUPS,
THESE ORAL PEOPLE WHO ARE
ILLITERATE ARE
LITERALLY ENTERING THE STORY.
AND WHEN JESUS IS HEALING
SOMEBODY, THEY'RE JOINING
THE SICK PERSON, CRYING OUT
TO JESUS FOR HEALING.
AND WHEN HE HEALS THAT PERSON
IN THE STORY, THESE PEOPLE
WERE BEING HEALED. WELL,
OF COURSE, AS THESE TESTIMONIES
WERE GOING AROUND, MORE AND
MORE SICK PEOPLE WERE COMING
TO LISTEN, JUST LIKE THEY DID
IN THE TIME OF CHRIST,
TO HEAR HIM. AND AS THEY HEAR
HIM, THEY'RE BEING HEALED
AS WELL. AND SO THE GROUP THEN
BECAME A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE HINDU
PRIESTS ARE NOT HAPPY, AND
THEY'RE GOING TO THE GOVERNOR
SAYING, "YOU'VE GOT TO SHUT
THIS DOWN." AND SO WE FOUND
SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES WHO
WERE MEETING IN THE HUNDREDS
WERE NOW HAVING TO MEET
IN THE NIGHT, SNEAKING FROM
THEIR HOMES, IN GROUPS
OF TEN OR TWENTY.
NOW, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
THIS WHOLE THING OF KARMA
SOMETIMES. WE, WE WERE LEAVING,
MARY AND I, AND WE WERE TALKING
TO A DUTCH LADY WHO LIVES ON
THE ISLAND. AND SHE WAS JUST
SAYING SHE ALWAYS HAS MONEY
WITH HER BECAUSE SHE SAYS
IF YOU GET HIT ON THE STREETS
AND YOU'RE LAYING THERE,
IF YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY,
THEY LEAVE YOU THERE.
AND SHE SAID, IN FACT,
THEY'LL JUST PUT CARDBOARD
OVER YOU WHILE YOU'RE MOANING
IN PAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT
TO FEEL GUILTY. IF YOU GO TO
THE HOSPITAL AND YOU DON'T HAVE
MONEY, SHE SAID
THEY'LL ACTUALLY TAKE
NEWSPAPER, WRAP YOU UP IN IT
AND STAPLE IT SO THAT THEY
DON'T HAVE TO HEAR YOUR MOANS.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE
ANY MONEY, THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO DO ANYTHING FOR YOU.
BECAUSE IN THAT HINDU COMMUNITY
AND CULTURE THEY'RE NOT
CONCERNED WITH THOSE PEOPLE.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS
IN THE ISLAND OF BALI THE WORD
OF GOD IS GOING COMMUNITY BY
COMMUNITY, AND AS PEOPLE HEAR
THEY'RE NOW HELPING EACH
OTHER. THEY'RE NOW SERVING
ONE ANOTHER. AND THE SICK ARE
BEING HEALED AND THEY'RE COMING
TO CHRIST. SO THE POOREST OF
THE POOR, THEY'RE REJECTED
AS ALWAYS, RIGHT,
ARE THE FIRST TO COME.
AND IT'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY
PROVIDED A PASTOR OR A LEADER,
WITH ONE OF THESE TOOLS THAT
THEY COULD TAKE TO A VILLAGE
AND COMMUNITY AND
LET THEM HEAR GOD'S WORD.
>> ANKERBERG: YEAH, THIS IS
WHAT'S GOD'S WORD IS DOING
AROUND THE WORLD.
IT'S SO POWERFUL.
IT'S SO POWERFUL.
YOU KNOW, FOLKS,
I'M SO GLAD YOU JOINED US
HERE ON CHRISTMAS EVE.
AND JUST STAY TUNED, I HAVE
A PERSONAL WORD FOR YOU
IN JUST A MOMENT.
>>JOHN ANKERBERG: NOW ON
THIS CHRISTMAS EVE IT'S HARD
TO BELIEVE THAT 2.8 BILLION
PEOPLE IN OUR WORLD HAVE NEVER
EVEN HEARD ABOUT JESUS.
4000 LANGUAGE GROUPS HAVE
NO BIBLE AT ALL.
2 MILLION PASTORS DESPERATELY
NEED AN AUDIO BIBLE IN THEIR
OWN LANGUAGE FOR THEMSELVES
AND THEIR CHURCH.
AND 65.3 MILLION PEOPLE ARE IN
REFUGEE CAMPS AND THEY WOULD
GLADLY ACCEPT AN AUDIO BIBLE
ON A BIBLE STICK.
IS THERE SOMETHING INSIDE YOU
THAT SAYS I WOULD LIKE TO
PROVIDE AN AUDIO BIBLE FOR ONE
OF THESE PEOPLE?
IF YOU WILL THERE ARE 5 WAYS
THAT YOU CAN HELP.
FIRST, IF YOU WILL GIVE A GIFT
OF $30: A SPECIAL
PRE-PROGRAMED MICRO SD CARD
WILL BE DONATED ON YOUR BEHALF
TO A PASTOR OR CHRISTIAN
WORKER OVERSEAS.
WHAT IS A MICRO SD CARD?
IT IS AN ULTRA-SMALL FLASH
MEMORY CARD-ABOUT THE SIZE
OF THE TIP OF YOUR FINGER.
PEOPLE IN THE POOREST
COUNTRIES HAVE OLD MOBILE
PHONES THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED
TO THE INTERNET.
AND WHEN THESE MICRO SD CARDS
ARE INSERTED INTO THEIR PHONES
THEY INSTANTLY CAN HEAR
THE WORD OF GOD FOR THE VERY
FIRST TIME IN THEIR OWN
LANGUAGE. THE MICRO SD CARD
CAN BE PROGRAMED WITH
THE NEW TESTAMENT IN ONE OF
1,120 FOREIGN LANGUAGES.
AND IT WILL BE TAKEN OVERSEAS
BY A FAITH COMES BY HEARING
WORKER AND GIVEN TO
A CHRISTIAN PASTOR OR
EVANGELIST, OR TO A NEEDY
FAMILY IN A REFUGEE CAMP.
THEN THEY WILL BE TRAINED
HOW TO USE IT. AND ONCE
THIS MICRO SD CARD IS PUT ON
THEIR PHONE THEN THEY CAN SHARE
IT WITH OTHERS WHO HAVE A PHONE
AND IT WILL BECOME THE ONLY
BIBLE THESE DEAR PEOPLE HAVE
FOR LEARNING,
FOR CHURCH SERVICES,
FOR EVANGELISM, FOR EVERYTHING.
AND YOU CAN PROVIDE THIS
FOR A GIFT OF ONLY $30.
THEN SECOND, IF YOU WILL GIVE
A GIFT OF $100, YOU CAN
PROVIDE TWO THINGS: FIRST
A MICRO SD CARD CONTAINING
THE BIBLE FOR A PASTOR OR
CHRISTIAN WORKER, AND SECOND,
YOU CAN PROVIDE A MILITARY
BIBLE STICK FOR ONE OF OUR
U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL
REQUESTING GOD'S WORD.
>>GEN. WILLIAM BOYKIN, RETIRED:
I THINK THE WHOLE CONCEPT
OF THE BIBLE STICKS
WAS A GOD GIVEN IDEA.
>>NARRATOR: SINCE FAITH COMES
BY HEARING DEVELOPED
THE MILITARY BIBLE STICK,
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF SERVICE
MEN AND WOMEN HAVE HAD ACCESS
TO AN AUDIO BIBLE, NO MATTER
WHERE THEY WERE DEPLOYED.
>>JERRY JACKSON: BUT TO THINK
OF THESE COUNTRIES,
EVERY MILITARY PERSON
HAVING THE SCRIPTURE.
>>MARGARET GARCIA: WHEN WE SEND
OUR CHILDREN OUT TO WAR,
WE LOAN OUR CHILDREN
TO THIS GREAT NATION.
>>FRANKLIN GRAHAM: TO GIVE THEM
ANY KIND OF DEVICE THAT WOULD
ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET INTO
THE SCRIPTURE, TO LISTEN TO
THE SCRIPTURE, AND ANYTHING
WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM.
BECAUSE THEY ARE AWAY FROM
THEIR HOME, THEY ARE AWAY
FROM THEIR FAMILIES, THEY ARE
AWAY FORM THEIR CHURCHES.
SO THIS IS A GREAT IDEA
AND I SUPPORT IT.
>>TROY CARL: WE HAVE HUNDREDS
OF CHAPLAINS IN THE ARMY, NAVY,
AIR FORCE, MARINES, NATIONAL
GUARD THAT ARE LINED UP SAYING,
PLEASE, THIS IS THE MOST
EFFECTIVE TOOL THAT
WE HAVE SEEN THAT REACHES
A YOUNG GENERATION.
>>NARRATOR, REQUESTS FROM
CHAPLAINS ARE POURING IN
FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.
>>GEN. BOYKIN: I DON'T EVEN
THINK THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE
ENOUGH OF THEM. THERE IS SUCH
A TREMENDOUS DEMAND FOR THEM.
THEY CAN'T GET THEM
TO THESE TROOPS FAST ENOUGH.
>>ANKERBERG: DID YOU KNOW THAT
150,000 ACTIVE U.S. MILITARY
PERSONNEL HAVE ALREADY
REQUESTED A MILITARY BIBLE
STICK FROM OUR MILITARY
CHAPLAINS AND THEY DON'T HAVE
ANY TO GIVE. YOUR GIFT WILL
ALLOW US TO DONATE ON YOUR
BEHALF A MILITARY BIBLE STICK
TO A SOLDIER, SAILOR, MARINE,
AIRMAN OR COAST GUARDSMEN,
SO THAT THEY CAN LISTEN TO
THE WORD OF GOD WHILE DEPLOYED.
AGAIN, YOUR GIFT OF $100 CAN
MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR
A MILITARY MEMBER TO HAVE
A MILITARY BIBLE STICK AND
FOR A CHRISTIAN WORKER OVERSEAS
TO RECEIVE A MICRO SD CARD
CONTAINING THE BIBLE.
AND THEN THIRD, FOR A GIFT
OF $500: AN AUDIO PROCLAIMER
CONTAINING THE BIBLE WILL BE
DONATED ON YOUR BEHALF TO
ONE OF THE 2 MILLION PASTORS
WHO DESPERATELY NEED
A PROCLAIMER FOR THEMSELVES
AND THEIR CHURCH.
IF YOU WILL GIVE A GIFT OF $500
FOR AN AUDIO PROCLAIMER:
ONE OF OUR SPECIAL DONORS HAS
PROMISED TO MATCH EVERY GIFT
YOU GIVE UP TO $100,000 WHICH
MEANS YOUR GIFT OF $500
CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE
2 PROCLAIMERS.
THEN FOURTH, IF YOU WILL GIVE
A GIFT OF $1,000:
3 MICRO SD CARDS,
3 MILITARY BIBLE STICKS
AND ONE PROCLAIMER WILL BE
DONATED ON YOUR BEHALF
TO CHRISTIANS WHO DESPERATELY
ARE REQUESTING GOD'S WORD.
YOUR GIFTS WILL ALSO HELP US
SUPPORT OUR PRESENTATION AND
DEFENSE OF THE GOSPEL ON TV
HERE AND OVERSEAS.
FINALLY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE
TO DO SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL,
FOR A DONATION OF $5000:
YOU CAN FUND THE AUDIO
RECORDING OF ONE ENTIRE CHAPTER
OF THE NEW TESTAMENT IN
A LANGUAGE WHERE RIGHT NOW
THE PEOPLE HAVE NO BIBLE
AT ALL. YOUR DONATION WILL
PROVIDE AN AUDIO CHAPTER FOR
THE 610,000 PEOPLE IN UGANDA
SPEAKING THE LUGWERE LANGUAGE
OR FOR THE 27,000 PEOPLE
IN THE SOUTH SUDAN SPEAKING
THE BAKA LANGUAGE.
IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE ONLY
TRANSLATION OF THAT CHAPTER
OF THE BIBLE THESE PEOPLE
WILL EVER HAVE. FURTHER,
EVERY $5000 GIFT YOU GIVE TODAY
WILL BE ADDED TO BY DONORS
FROM FAITH COMES BY HEARING
WITH THE GOAL OF BEING ABLE
TO RECORD THE ENTIRE
NEW TESTAMENT IN BOTH OF THESE
LANGUAGES. SO, IF YOU WOULD
LIKE TO PROVIDE AN AUDIO BIBLE
ON A MICRO SD CARD,
OR A MILITARY BIBLE STICK,
OR PROVIDE AN AUDIO PROCLAIMER,
OR FUND ONE CHAPTER OF
THE BIBLE IN A NEW LANGUAGE,
PLEASE WOULD YOU CALL US
RIGHT NOW AT 1-800-805-3030.
THAT'S 1-800-805-3030.
OR IF YOU WISH, YOU MAY GO
TO OUR WEBSITE AT JASHOW.ORG
WHERE WE HAVE A SECURE PLACE
FOR YOU TO GIVE YOUR GIFT.
AND WHEN WE RECEIVE YOUR GIFT
WE WILL SEND YOU A RECEIPT
AND A COMMEMORATIVE CERTIFICATE
THANKING YOU FOR YOUR GIFT.
OUR NUMBER AGAIN
IS 1-800-805-3030.
AND I'LL APPRECIATE YOUR HELP
VERY MUCH.
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