TO HELP THEIR FRIEND, GENERAL FLYNN AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF. LET ME GO TO THE TWO SENATORS
RUNNING THIS. SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM FROM
SOUTH CAROLINA AND SENATOR WHY ISOUS FROM THE GREAT STATE OF --
WHAT DID YOU LEARN YOU DIDN'T KNOW?
>> I THOUGHT CLAPPER AND YATES WERE GREAT WITNESSES AND WHAT
SHE DID GOING TO THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING YOU HAVE A PROBLEM ON
FLYNN BECAUSE HE COULD BE COMPROMISED.
SHE DID ABSOLUTELY THE RIGHT THING.
FROM WHAT I COULD TELL, THE WHITE HOUSE TO DOUBLE, MR.
McGANN TOOK IT SERIOUSLY AND 18 DAYS THE GUY IS FIRED.
I LEARNED THERE WAS AN UNMASKING AND MEMBER OF CONGRESS DURING
THE 2016 ELECTION, THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD OF THAT.
BOTTOM LINE I THOUGHT SALLY YATES DID THE RIGHT THING IN
TERMS OF HER ROLE IN THIS. >> SENATOR WHITEHOUSE, 18 DAYS
SEEMS LONG SINCE HE LEARNED. YOU HAVE TO FACTOR INTO IT AND I
DON'T KNOW WHO KNEW THIS AND WHEN.
THERE WAS SOMETHING SQUIRRELY, MY TURN, ABOUT GENERAL MICHAEL
FLYNN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH TURKEY, EVEN THAT WEIRD MEETING,
I DON'T KNOW FOREVER YOU KNOW ABOUT IT, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR
WOOLSEY SAID HE WALKED IN SOME MEETING WHERE FLYNN IN OCTOBER
WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO HELP TURKEY GET A
DISSIDENT OUT OF THE UNITED STATES BYPASSING EXTRADITION.
THERE WERE WEIRD THINGS. 18 DAYS SEEMS LONG TO ME.
WHAT ABOUT YOU? >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED,
THERE WAS A SECOND MEETING WITH WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL AND THOSE
TWO MEETINGS ALLOWED ATTORNEY YATES TO HAMMER HOME TO WHITE
HOUSE THIS WAS AN ONGOING NATIONAL SECURITY HAZARD TO THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THEY HAD A NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR IN A POSITION WHERE HE COULD BE COMPROMISED BY THE
RUSSIANS AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE, AS FAR AS ANYBODY KNEW HAD
ALREADY BEEN COMPROMISED BY THE RUSSIANS.
YOU THINK OF WHAT TOOK PLACE OVER THOSE OPENING DAYS OF THOSE
TWO MEETINGS BETWEEN HER AND THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL, THE FACT 18
DAYS GOES BY, DURING WHICH HE PARTICIPATES ACTIVELY IN ALL
SORTS OF REALLY DELICATE NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES WHERE
RUSSIA IS DEEPLY INVESTED, INCLUDING A PHONE CALL BETWEEN
THE PRESIDENT AND VLADAMIR PUTIN AND THEN IT'S ONLY AT THE END OF
THAT THEY FINALLY GET AROUND TO DISMISSING THE MAN, SOMETHING IS
NOT RIGHT IN DENMARK. >> I GUESS, SENATOR GRAHAM,
18DYS IS -- I THINK PROBABLY -- ADVANTAGE OF 2020 HINDSIGHT.
>> WHAT'S THE RIGHT TIME? >> BECAUSE IT'S NATIONAL
SECURITY I WOULD HAVE PUT HIM ON ICE FOR 24 HOURS AND PARKED HIM
WHILE WE SORTED IT OUT, MAYBE NOT FIRED HIM, PUT HIM ON ICE.
>> THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE BETTER WAY.
LET ME TELL YOU THIS. HE WAS FIRED.
SHE DID THE RIGHT THING. SHE'S INCREDIBLY CREDIBLE.
I THOUGHT FLYNN DID COMPROMISE HIMSELF.
WE CAN ARGUE LONG IT TOOK. ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS STORY,
SOMEBODY DURING THIS TIME PERIOD TOOK CLASSIFIED INFORMATION
OBTAINED FROM INCIDENTAL COLLECTION AND LEAKED TO IT THE
"WASHINGTON POST." YOU MAY LIKE THE OUTCOME IN THIS
PARTICULAR CASE. THAT PROCESS IS BAD FOR
DEMOCRACY. YOU CANNOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
YOU CAN'T HAVE POLITICAL PEOPLE IF ONE WAS INVOLVED, TO TAKE
INTELLIGENCE TO LEAK TO IT THE PRESS AND GET AN OUTCOME WE
LIKE. I WANT TO KNOW WHO DID THAT.
>> HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT? THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO LEAK
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. HAD IT NOT BEEN LEAKED, NOT A
JUSTIFICATION FOR VIOLATING THE LAW WE WOULD HAVE A NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR, GENERAL FLYNN FORMER ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL
YATES' WORDS, SOMEONE VULNERABLE TO BLACKMAIL BY RUSSIA.
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE ALL THAT? >> WE KNOW THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE
IS VERY RESPONSIVE TO WHAT'S BEING SAID ABOUT INTEREST THE
MEDIA. YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE EVEN THOUGH
IT TOOK THEM 18 DAY, AT SOME POINT THEY WOULD HAVE REACTED TO
WHAT SALLY YATES HAD TOLD THEM. THEY WOULD HAVE TAKEN THIS
NATIONAL SECURITY RISK SERIOUSLY.
THE IDEA MICHAEL FLYNN WOULD STILL BE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR I THINK DOESN'T STAND ON MUCH OF A FOUNDATION BUT HOW
MUCH LONGER THEY WOULD HAVE DRAGGED IT OUT IS AN OPEN
QUESTION AND GOOD ONE. >> VERY FAIR.
>> LET ME CHALLENGE YOU -- GO AHEAD, SENATOR.
>> FROM A REPUBLICAN POINT OF VIEW, I FOUND MISS YATES TO BE
INCREDIBLY CREDIBLE. I THOUGHT WHAT SHE DID IN TERMS
OF HANDLING THIS, SHE DIDN'T GO TO THE PRESS, SHE WENT TO THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THINK MR. McGANN SEEMED TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND WE WILL SEE.
>> TO BE A DEVIL'S ADVOCATE TO BOTH OF YOU, FORMER ATTORNEY
GENERAL YATES, IS THAT THE LAST TIME SHE SPOKE UP SHE GOT FIRED,
WHEN SHE SPOKE UP ABOUT SOMETHING.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE WAY SHE DID THAT ABOUT THE TRAVEL
BAN THERE WERE BETTER WAYS TO DO IT.
SHE GOT FIRED WHEN SHE DID THAT. HERE'S THE OTHER THING,
PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY TWEETING THAT ABOUT THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION GAVE FLYNN THE HIGHEST SECURITY CLEARANCE EVER.
YOU SESAYING HOW THEY ACTED QUICKLY IN 18 DAYS AND SOME
DEFENSE ON GENERAL FLYNN LAYING THE BLAME ON THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION. >> THAT DIDN'T STAND UP IN THE
HEARING TODAY. WE HEARD FROM GENERAL CLAPPER
FOR THESE WHITE HOUSE POSITION THERE'S A FAR HIGHER LEVEL OF
SCRUTINY THAN GENERAL ROTATION OF FIVE YEAR REVIEW.
APPARENTLY, THAT WAS NOT DONE. WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
BUT THE WHITE HOUSE CANNOT FACTUALLY SAY THAT THE
PRE-EXISTING CLEARANCE FOR GENERAL FLYNN WAS ADEQUATE FOR
THIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR POSITION.
THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE EVIDENTLY. >> CAN I BUILD ON THAT?
NUMBER ONE, WHAT GENERAL FLYNN DID THAT'S GOT US ALL UPSET WAS
AFTER HE WAS FIRED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
SO DID THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAVE REASON TO WITHDRAW HIS
SECURITY CLEARANCE WHILE HE WAS OUT CAMPAIGNING FOR PRESIDENT
TRUMP? I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY HAD ENOUGH
EVIDENCE. AS TO VETTING GENERAL FLYNN,
GENERAL KELLY SAID THAT HE WENT THROUGH A VERY LONG PROCESS WITH
THE WHITE HOUSE, ASKED ABOUT FOREIGN CONTACTS, DID HE
REPRESENT ANY FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT DIDN'T WORK WHEN IT CAME TO GENERAL FLYNN IN THE
WHITE HOUSE. YOU HAVE TO HOLD THE WHITE HOUSE
ACCOUNTABLE IN MY VIEW FOR NOT PROPERLY VETTING GENERAL FLYNN'S
CONTACT WITH TURKEY AND RUSSIA. >> WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN INSTEAD
OF TODAY PRESIDENT TRUMP LAYING THE BLAME ON THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION IN A TWEET SAYING BASICALLY THEY GAVE HIM THE
CLEARANCE NOW WE KNOW THERE IS A HIGHER CLEARANCE HE SHOULD HAVE
HAD SUBSEQUENTLY INSTEAD THE PRESIDENT TWEETED TODAY, PLEASE
WATCH THE HEARING, WE NEED TO HEAR WHAT FORMER ACTING ATTORNEY
GENERAL YATES SAID. ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET LIED TO
IN SECURITY CLEARANCES. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE
BETTER, WOULD YOU AGREE? >> THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER
BUT CERTAIN PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT ARE NOT GOING TO
DO THAT. SENATOR WHITEHOUSE AND I TRIED
TO PUT SOMETHING A HEARING WHAT DID THE RUSSIANS ACTUALLY DO?
HOW CAN WE STOP THEM IN THE FUTURE AND WHAT KIND OF PRICE
SHOULD THEY PAY. I'M VERY INTERESTED HOW THE
SYSTEM WORKS ON GATHERING INTELLIGENCE THROUGH INCIDENTAL
SWAINSD HOW UNMASKING WORK, THICK THAT'S POTENTIALLY ABUSED.
I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE DID TODAY. >> THE PRESIDENT MAY HAVE A
PENSION FOR MISDIRECTION BUT I THINK SENATOR GRAHAM'S HEARINGS
HAVE GONE RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FACTUALLY AND VERY
WELL SUPPORTED THE WHOLE WAY THROUGH AND WE INTEND TO
CONTINUE DOING THAT. >> WHERE WE ARE, WE HAD YATES
SPEAK, WE HEARD FROM HER AND HEARD FROM THE FORMER CIA
DIRECTOR. WE DON'T KNOW WHO DID THE
LEAKING. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU TWO WILL
BE PURSUING? WILL THERE BE MORE HEARINGS ON
THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE TO TALK TO SENATOR WHITEHOUSE.
WHAT IT WANT TO KNOW IS HOW DOES UNMASKING WORK?
WHAT'S THE POPULATION THAT CAN REQUEST UNMASKING.
DO THEY SHARE THE INFORMATION? HOW IS THE INFORMATION
DISTRIBUTED IN OUR SYSTEM. IN TERMS OF WHERE WE GO NEXT
WITH RUSSIA, I WANT TO KNOW WAS THERE A WARRANT ON CARTER PAGE?
CARTER PAGE, ACCORDING TO PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS A CAMPAIGN
ADVISOR. THE PRESS REPORTED A FISA
WARRANT WAS ISSUED AND SOMEBODY BELIEVED THERE WAS PROBABLE
CAUSE BY HIS CONNECTIONS TO RUSSIA.
WERE THOSE CONNECTIONS JUST HIM AS AN INDIVIDUAL OR CONNECTIONS
OF HIM AS A CAMPAIGN OPERATIVE. I WANT TO KNOW THAT AND STILL
DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> ONE OF THE DECISIONS SENATOR
GRAHAM AND I MADE EARLY ON IN THIS WAS TO TRY TO STAY AWAY
FROM TOO MUCH CLASSIFIED MATERIAL BECAUSE CLASSIFIED
MATERIAL MEANS YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT ANY LONGER.
PART OF OUR PURPOSE HERE IS WHAT DIRECTOR CLAPPER REFERRED TO IN
THE HEARINGS, THIS WAS A REALLY USEFUL HEARING AND BRINGING THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE ALONG TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE
AND WHAT IS AT RISK FOR TAKING PLACE IN FUTURE ELECTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE CAREFUL, I BELIEVE, ABOUT TRYING TO GET TOO
MUCH CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. IT CAN BE LIKE FLY PAPER, ONCE
YOU'RE STUCK TO IT, IT'S HARD TO MANEUVER AFTER YOU'VE BEEN GLUED
TO THE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION AND CAN NO LONGER SPEAK FREELY.
>> ONE BIG OVERARCHING QUESTION. WHAT WILL WE DO ABOUT RUSSIA?
FIRST TO SENATOR WHITEHOUSE? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE?
>> I KNOW SENATOR GRAHAM WILL HAVE STRONG IDEAS WHAT TOT DO ON
OFFENSE. I WILL SAY ON DEFENSE WE NEED TO
DO THINGS LIKE CLEAN UP OUR INCORPORATION LAW, SOMETHING I
FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT SO RUSSIANS AND OTHER FOLKS CAN'T
HIDE BEHIND SHELL CORPORATIONS WITH NOBODY ABLE TO FIND THEM.
WE'RE BECOMING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THE LAST HAVEN
FOR CRIMINALS WHO WANT TO HIDE BEHIND SHELL CORPORATIONS AS
COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD INCLUDING THE EU CLEAN UP THEIR
ACT. WE HAVE SPECIFIC THINGS WE CAN
DO TO DEFEND AMERICAN DEMOCRACY BY MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC SEES
WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHO IS BEHIND THE DARK OPERATIONS OF
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO INFLUENCE POLITICS.
>> SENATOR GRAHAM, I HAVE 30 SECONDS.
GO AHEAD ON OFFENSE. >> SANCTION THE HELL OUT OF
PUTIN AND HIS INNER CIRCLE. WE HAVEN'T DONE ENOUGH IN THE
ENERGY CIRCLE AND THEIR PERSONAL FINANCES.
HIT THEM HARD AND PASS MY BILL THAT WILL HIT PUTIN AND HIS
INNER CIRCLE HARD FOR TRYING TO UNDERMINE OUR ELECTION AND
DEMOCRACY AROUND THE WORLD. MAKE HIM PAY A PRICE.
>> YOU GOT YOUR 30 SECONDS. >> MY ONE PIECE, I WANT TO SAY
WHAT A PLEASURE IT IS TO SEE A REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT WORKING
ON THIS TOGETHER SO
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