Jonathan Groff is a Broadway vet last seen on the boards in his
tony-nominated turn as King George in Hamilton. As he enjoys a success of his
buzzed-about TV show Mindhunter the charming Broadway.com favorite talks
about branching out on the Netflix hit, laughing uncontrollably in Spring
Awakening, crying watching Frozen on stage and more on this week's Show
People.
--Mr. Groff, how are you? What's so funny? What's so funny?
--I just like that you
started it so formal.
--Well you know this formal. You're a big TV, you're in one of
the hottest, okay I just want to tell you last night I went out and I was at a bar
there were a bunch of Broadway people there. Everyone was talking about
Mindhunter. I swear to God I got into a conversation about Mindhunter with like
everyone in the room. It's blowing up. --Oh my god that just made my day
--So, congratulations.I binged it on day one.
--You binged it? --I binged it. I binged it.
Of course! How could I not been Jonathan Groff and and David Fincher? I mean come
on this is like important television. What's nice about Netflix is the waves
of like word of mouth. -- Yes
--Are you feeling that? --I've started to, yeah.
People on the streets and people at parties are starting to come up and talk
about it.
--Tell you what episode they're on? --Yes, I'm on the tickle episode.
--There's a lot of like I'm on five! And I'm like wait till the end, wait til ten!
--Yes. It is. It's
it's exciting because you never know it's like people reading the same book
as opposed to watching the same, because usually a TV show or not usually but
historically a TV show was week to week, so you talked about that, but now
it's people are at different spots so cool. --I am so excited for you.
--Thank you.
--It's such a cool project. So David Fincher is of course a brilliant
director. Are you like a fan of a lot of his work in the past? Very dark.
--Yeah huge fan though. It's funny like when auditioned for the social network that
was how I met him, but even like when I get when I got this job, I was
like you know what let me go back and watch re-watch all of David's films, and
--All in one night with the lights off? --Yeah, binging all of his movies and I realized
that I'd seen all of them. He's just one of those filmmakers that you you're like
oh right gone girl and Fight Club, Se7en and the list goes on and on.
--The best and so how did this project come your way and you really like oh my
god oh my god this is gonna be awesome?
--I was in Hamilton. --Which was a
big thing. That was that was a big show. That was a big moment,
--Exactly --Ever
night cheers
--Exactly --are you missing all that applause in your life?
I mean it must be nice to -- Always. I'm an actor, so I'm like a bottomless pit of
needing applause. Bottomless pit of need so yeah
looking for applause. But no I was doing the show and my agent just sent me the
script and the information about the show and it's a David Fincher and I said
yes. I want it. Before reading it. I want to audition for it, having no idea
what the role was or anything. Then I read the show and as you know
from seeing it, the scenes are these long 15 page scenes
with the serial killers and it's almost like a play because they're
incredibly psychological and they play out over such a long period of time that
it isn't like your normal film or TV audition side that's like three scenes
and it's in different locations and you, and so I was so intrigued by the
density of the material and then he also gave us this sort of like a character
arc of gave me the character arc of like where it was headed and stuff, and it
seemed so interesting, so I put myself on tape and then the next day they were
like Fincher liked your tape, can you fly on Monday on the day off from Hamilton
to meet him an audition for him in person?
And so I met him in LA on a day off from Hamilton.
--And you did a long scene where
he was the serial killer? [laughs]
--Oh my god no but I would, he's he's also such a good
actor. --Oh really?
--Yeah cuz he'll wouldn't be in rehearsal
and stuff he'll be reading if someone isn't there or whatever, David
Fincher, the crazy thing about him is he can do everybody's job better than
everybody else including acting. I'd be like can you say that line again cause actually
the way you just said it is how I want to say it. He's so great.
No it actually I went and just sat with him and he kind of talked about the
project and his goal for the show and sort of what he was looking to explore
and then it was on.
--So he directed for the, he directed the first two of the
season in the last two of the season. And you talked about the arc of the
character, and this is what I really loved about this performance.
It shows how rich your entire work was on the show and it really feels like
your character really is on a journey over the entire season and then in the
final moments are riveting, but it really felt like wow he was really like taking
me on some things. That make sense? --Totally.
--And I guess a lot of is about
this character. He's kind of not comfortable in his skin and he's kind of
figuring his own fascination out with a serial killers
So did you really pay attention to that entire arc while you
were performing it?
--Yeah and one of the things that David said in the beginning
was Holden, the character I play is not an actor, you know, he's an
FBI agent so he doesn't have this sort of social graces and fluidity that you
Jonathan as an actor have. He's not charming, he's not he can't socially like
negotiate things in a comfortable way in his life until he sits across the table
from Ed Kemper and that's where he sort of discovers who he is. At the same time
he's also having his sexual awakening with his girlfriend while talking to--
--A spring awakening, if you will. -- A little spring awakening, if you will, exactly.
And so it was so
interesting to kind of go through and track how that changed him and I even
remember in the audition scene, getting the Richard Speck interview, which
happens in the ninth episode, where he's like kind of he learned they learned
this sort of tactic of mirroring back the language of the serial killer in
order to get them to open up, and watching him from the first episode, the
sort of like buttoned up Mormon looking, you know scared kid, even with Ed Kemper,
to suddenly having this tactic where he's mirroring this thing. I was like oh
this is so much here to yeah there's so much here to explore and then that
final scene with the with Ed Kemper where it's like he's coming coming back
to like a jilted lover almost. Ed Kemper is like why don't you call me anymore?
--Yeah just so like hubris disturbing to me.
--Yeah it seems like it
wouldn't have been the same kind of maybe set atmosphere as like Glee.
--Correct --For example. Seems like potentially
Madonna isn't pumping through the yeah, even through
even though Fincher did direct like the Express Yourself video.
Which is true. --Is that one of the
works that you watched and that one you binged?
--Yes! --I gotta watch Express Yourself at least
eight times. Between every movie. I remember that was like his first big thing.
Express yourself. --Yeah
And he did the George Michael. It's his career is so insane.
--Yeah but when you were on set
in between scenes, what did you do? Did you sort of just like I just picture you
like by yourself kind of like --Crying
--Getting ready for -- Well it was sort of it
it's like it was like there was a balance because in one way it was a
marathon. And you just think it was such a great
opportunity and such an amazing part and I wanted to really do my homework and be
able to give it all give it my all when I got on set. So there was that aspect
of it but then I would have these like, like my shirt for example, because my
character is so like repressed and perfect and kind of anal. I had
this thing that I was wearing this thing where it would like connect my shirt to my
socks. --Like a garter?
-- It was almost like a garter. Because
my character's so everything had to be absolutely perfect. So I was like I was strapping
myself in every day to my outfit. Wow and then sitting in these very kind of
specific postures, and the --Are you imitating me?
Sitting in my. -- Oh my god. What if I had suddenly just...
So tell me about your mother. --Are you mirroring me?
--Maybe. --Acting
-- But then I would have these
like insane laughing fits. Holt Macallan, who plays Bill Tensch, he's so
--I don't know him but I fell in love with him watching the show.
--Of course. He's
incredible. He's also to me just a hilarious person. He's just we're all so
so opposite, right it's like The Odd Couple.
And I remember watching him get into the car one day and I just lost it, and I
started laughing and I couldn't stop laughing, and it was the sort of this
running thing, then like weeks later we're in the scene and talking about
something serious and again like I just had to do laps around the set because I
couldn't stop laughing. But it's actually something that happened to me, it's my
Achilles heel always, and it started on Spring
Awakening. -- Really?
--At performance 300, I think it was 303, of Spring Awakening.
--You remember the performance number? -- I remember the performance number because John
Gallagher and I broke. Something inside of us broke and it's never been fixed
again, where he came in for the scene before Touch Me, and he like slid in
right with his like crazy hair, and it wasn't even anything that either of us
said. We just looked at each other and just started hysterically laughing, and
couldn't stop, and and starting the scene you know then I pulled the microphone
out and I was like "Where I go, when I go there"
and then Lauren Pritchard was like you're like
Lauren Pritchard laughs as he's doing the thing. But
ever since that moment, it's like this this thing that happens to me where, I
also find acting so absurd because we're just in costumes playing pretend.
-- I think it's healthy to keep yourself in reality about what you're doing.
--Yeah so on its
manifested itself on Mindhunter starting with Holt getting in the car. And
I was just like this is... hilarious.
--So, when are you guys actually gonna do the
Odd Couple on Broadway? Is this happening? Is this...
--That that would be so
fun. -- That would be really fun for fans of Mindhunter.
--That would be so maybe we will do like we'll do like a benefit reading,
like a one-night-only moment. --You could do it here.
--We could do it here. --No audience.
--Alright we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right backwith more Jonathan
Groff.
--We're back with Mr. Jonathan Groff, a new Netflix star Jonathan Groff. That's what
everybody wants to be now right? A Netflix star?
--Oh my gosh.
It's so fun working for Netflix. It really is.
It's like the height of
showbiz right now.
--There's not a lot of cooks in the kitchen. It's like they let
their people just create.
--Yeah. Speaking of people creating, I know
you're a big Thoroughly Modern Millie fan, as am I, Mark Kudish! Could we give
Mark Kudish a shout out? --Yes!
-- He's so good on Mindhunter! Yeah like look at
go Kudish! You're so mean to him on that show.
--I know. --That final moment
with him. -- And I was so excited. I had never
worked with Kudish before, and so I
was just grilling him the whole time about like Millie stuff. We talked about it
the whole time. It's so fun to work with him. He's so good.
He's such an amazing actor and he's so good in the in the show. He's so
like he's got that level of like just a little bit of creepy, but not so much
that it's like kind of ambiguous. Is he a weird principal or is he like
the greatest principal of all time? --Right, and you guys were talking about
Millie? --[singing] Tell me where my desk is,
when we eat we'll eat lunch, how much I'll be paid,
and nice to meet you. I know we'll be friends just call me Millie
Graydon.
--Yeah. The patter song. Yeah.
--I remember one time that I
went to go see it, they were doing that the speed to his scene, and she was
sitting and she was --She, Sutton Foster.
--She, with a capital S, she Sutton Foster, the
Royal she, and and she was writing in her pad, and he crossed over to stage
right, and she sort of like scurried over next to him, and showed her his like note
pad, and he and he and he like did this smile,
I just remember it so vividly, he did this smile, and I remember thinking, I
think she like wrote something, yeah inappropriate on that pad. I
don't think that they're acting right now. I think that they're...
--And you asked him? -- Yeah. I was like would Sutton write
stuff on that pad? And he was
like I don't remember. [laughs]
--That story went nowhere. --Is the Royal she here?
--Can Sutton Foster come in and tell us? No? We'll find out.
-- They had such good chemistry on that show.
--Oh my god, so good, yeah I agree. I miss Thouroughly Modern Millie.
--Ugh, me too. --Good old
days. [laughs]
--So I have a question, now that you're a big TV star again? What about
social media? I know you don't like social media, and I wonder. The reason why
I'm bringing this up-- well you're not on it. I'm not saying you don't like
it, but you're not on it. But at least not as yourself. I'm sure you have some
lurking names, but my question is, I feel like actors, it's not like a pressure
like to promote the show? Doesn't like Netflix want you to be on social media?
Isn't that like doesn't it come up? I hear that it comes up sometimes for
actors?
--It never came up for me. --Really?
--No, and when I met Jenny T, my
publicist, who's sitting behind the camera at our meeting you know a year
whatever ago, I was like I'm just not on social media. And I think social media is
great, you know? It's useful in so many ways, but I think in order for it to be
effective for any particular person, you also have to be really into it. You can't
really half-ass it or else what's the point? And it's just not, I don't like
being on my phone. It's just not my thing, so I don't think it would be
effective because it's not something that gets my heart rate going. And
she was like yeah that's fine. No one has ever pressured me into it? Do
you like the mystery? Like because I you know I think that's a valid point. I
think it's interesting for actors to not. --I wish it was that like...
--It's not that?
--It's that I, like I think if Facebook came out when I was in high school, I
probably would be on all social media. It just was never a part of my everyday
situation, and so I just never did it. I like delete my texts after I
respond to them just so I can remember to get back to everyone. That you know it's
like how I keep track. Or I delete all my emails after I respond because I want to
make sure I get back to people and the idea of expanding that to then social
media interactions just makes me feel tired. That's really what it is.
--We don't want that.
I don't want that.
--And I just don't, I look at my phone too much. I look at my,
I'm not wearing one, but I just got a watch recently, a normal watch,
so that I wouldn't have to look at my phone. --So you know what time it is?
--Yes so I don't so I don't have to look at my phone for the time and be like, oh, okay...
now I have to do all this... --Right. Okay. San you imagine like if Instagram
was around during Spring Awakening? I feel like there would've been so many
crazy totally things. You guys would have been monsters I feel like.
--That probably would have been great. I mean it's such a great way to promote
shows, I mean, you
know with the kids. -- Yeah like Mindhunter.
you could promote Mindhunter
on social media if you wanted to. -- I could, yeah, I don't know if like
teenagers are watching Mindhunter but maybe they are, but even I remember
with Spring Awakening, we did a music video of The Bitch of Living for
YouTube, which was a huge... this is before social media and it was a big
deal that we shot it off Broadway at the Atlantic, and it was like we're gonna
make a video of the song, to put on the Internet to appeal to the young
people it seems so groundbreaking!
--So obviously everybody loves Looking.
Looking was was a great, beautiful project that was sort of a big part of
your life for a few years, and it's, I love that you went from
Looking to Mindhunder. I mean you talked about like the scope and you're playing
a heterosexual man in Mindhunter, you are having heterosexual sex.
--Correct.
--There's some maybe sort of graphic moments, some allusions.
--Yeah. --You're going
there.
--There's a butt shot. '
--Well that's that's Spring Awakening. That's old.
--I know
right?
--We've seen that. We've seen that. We saw that a long time ago.
--I know, me having
straight sex is so boring it's like I I've been doing it for ten years.
--Have you had any challenges getting people to be open to you playing straight
characters? I was wondering because obviously you know you came out after I
mean a couple years after Spring Awakening, you sort of publicly came out.
--Yeah, yeah. --And, and
you've been super gay.
--Yeah. --And when you're promoting Looking, you just
constantly talk about gay sex, I mean, --Totally.
--You just went there.
And you had a lot of it on camera, so have you experienced that at all? Or
--Well, it's interesting cause when I when I initially came out, it was at is actually
through Broadway.com. --You came out on Broadway.com, which I wanted
to bring up. --Which is a huge deal!
--We were your chosen outlet to come out.
--Thank you Broadway.com. Thank you for outing me. For facilitating that.
--Talk about why, well actually I was reading that you personally came out to
like your family friends right after Spring Awakening.
--Yeah, so it happened in
like waves. So right after I left Spring Awakening, I came out like a month after
it was over I had. I was 23. I had a personal revelation. I went traveling by
myself. I realized I wanted to be open about who I was, and my whole life
changed, so I did that with my friends and family, but then there was no like
opportunity to come out publicly, but then I was at the March on Washington.
That's where we all went down there right, and I was dating Gavin at the time...
-- Gavin Creel, Tony Winner Gavin Creel. -- Tony winner Gavin Creel. The
amazing Gavin Creel, and he changed my life in so many ways, and that being one
of them. We took all, he took all these buses. --Gavin is like a natural activist
and he was in hair and he was very fired up by all that.
--Yeah, and
that was a new side of him that he was also discovering. It was like, he, yeah,
which was amazing, and and so we went down there, and I was in love and we were
in DC, and it just like made sense. And somebody asked me, like, are you?
--Our reporter Kimberly Kay asked you. --Yeah, Kimberly asked me,
and she was like are you gay? And I was like,
actually, what happened, what actually now I remember what happened. She sort of
asked me, and I was like...And she was like, Oh my god, I don't want to make you feel
weird. Forget I said that, and she walked away, and I just was like looking around
and looking at Gavin, who was like you know speaking on a megaphone. I was like,
no, like what I can't. I feel so wrong to be standing here and
and I always knew that I would come out, and to me like love is more, was
more important than career, or like trying to protect something that doesn't
even really exist. Like love to me is so much more important, and so I walked over
to her, and I was like hey I want to just say that I know you asked me this
question, and I'm sorry to walk over here after you asked me, but but yeah I'm I'm
gay. And she was like, on the record?
And I was like, yeah, and so that happened. And
it was great, and it was a great experience, and
and.. But then Looking came along and I thought wow, okay, it's one thing to be a
gay actor, and then it's another thing to be gay on screen and have sex with men
on screen, and talk about gay identity for you potentially years. Am I just
like stamping a giant G-A-Y across my forehead? And maybe I'll just forever be
typecast as a gay person. That was my like insecurity in going for that
project, but the movie weekend, Andrew Higgs movie, I saw it at the IFC here and
it blew my mind, and so I was like you know what let me just put away that dumb
insecurity about being labeled as a certain thing forever, and just do this... I
just believed in the project. And kind of like you take a risk, you know?
Maybe I will only play gay characters forever, and that would have been fine,
but then MindHunter came along, and so it's it's like as much a surprise to me
as anything else that this opportunity happened. And it's and it's also, I
feel like a reflection of being an actor in 2017 because even ten years agom if
you came out, it was a different thing, and so hopefully it's just a reflection
of a bigger thing that everybody's catching up with the times, and we don't
have to... It's such a silly notion that you're at sexuality and your real life
would determine your intimacy and chemistry with people on a set or on a
stage because there's we had straight people playing gay on Looking and
they're you know there's it's all about chemistry between two people as
characters, not necessarily what someone does in in the privacy of their own
house, yeah. We're not actually having sex with each other
on camera. It's acting, so yeah just FYI. yeah so yeah it's great.
--Great
progress. I'm glad that you're getting down on Mindhunter with her. All
right. We're gonna take another break and we're gonna talk more with Mr. Jonathan
Groff.
-- Hey, look! We're back and Jonathan Groff is here. I'm always excited when you're
here. You should stop by more often, really. -- I love it here
--So since Broadway.com is your chosen outlet to reveal things is there
anything you want to reveal? You want to come out about anything or?
--Great question. No I feel like
--You're kind of like an open book
--That's like the thing. I mean once
you do that, what do you have left?
--You, what's left? We know
everything. We know everything. We can't know everything though.
--Can anyone really know anything? Everything.
--Somebody on on staff here wanted an update on Lea Michele, the goat.
--Dead.
Dead. She's dead. --She died.
--Lea Michele the goat has passed. -- Oh she
and she had offspring. --She had such a good life though.
It was like she
was over a decade. She was like the go-to producer of other goats. Yep.
--She's very fertile, and lived a very long life.
--Oh yeah but goats die. --Goats die,
people die. -- And that was of course Lea Michele the goat was
featured on side by side by Susan Blackwell. That was a fun episode, we got
to see where you grew up. I was in your childhood home. I met your mom
and like we were there. -- Oh my god yeah
--That's still there. They still live there.
--They still live there. -- Have you, do you visit there often or?
--I was just there yesterday morning. I came back went for there's this place called
Cherry Crest farms where at the end of fall every year they drop a giant
pumpkin to commemorate the end of fall. So it was a sixteen hundred pound, organically
grown pumpkin, from the sky. They like they they take a crane and they hook
--That's crazy. Then it just drops and and you all?
--And it's the end of fall!
--And the town cheers? And is this real Jonathan
Groff? Is just sort of like where you feel at home? Is that more you than
like city Jonathan Groff, or they both -- God I feel like the
character Levin from Anna Karenina, where like I'm not really of the farm
and not really of the city. I fall somewhere in between.
--That's highbrow.
--Is it? -- And can you imagine yourself like living in a place
like that eventually or raising children? Do you wanna have children? You want to
raise them in a place like that or...
--I think I'd need like a boyfriend before I decided to think about children.
--Right. I'm thinking long term. Boyfriend first. --Okay, Like a dream casting
Yeah I I do love my family, and I love being home with my family. My
brother has two kids and when I'm around like the kitchen table with my brother
and his wife and their kids and my dad and my mom, I feel great. And so I the
idea of recreating the feeling of that, is definitely, definitely feels like
that would like to do that at some point. And I and I would want to maybe have a
place in Lancaster. I just love Lancaster PA. I really do. So I it's maybe someday
having a place there and a place in New York would be a dream. I love both. I
think I feel most myself in the city when I'm riding bike to a play. To
either do a play or to see a play. --City Bike or your own bike?
--My own bike. When I am riding to or from the theater, that's
when I feel like I'm living my dream. -- I can see that. It's a nice feeling. you
feel like you're in control you're not dealing with like a lot of the the the
BS of the city and like traffic and like right your control?
--Yeah yeah and also in --Wind in your hair.
--Having, having a bike in New York made me re fall in love with New
York cause you're seeing all the neighborhoods and you get to you get to
experience it in a palpable way.
--So I want you, I want this family thing for
you, so who's like that what's the perfect kind of guy for you? What do you
look for? We, I mean you've had some public relationships, which must be weird.
--That's so hard, no. -- It must be weird, like do and you
stay friends with your exes, generally?
Are you that guy?
--Weirdly yes. Yeah, yeah. --Okay so but like what's an ideal like
what are you what are you looking for? What would your dating profile say? What
are you...
--Okay this is important. --This is very important. This is the most
important part of the interview.
--Oh, what am I looking for? This is doesn't really have a type. I've
dated all different types, all different ages. What I'm looking for is that thing
when you sit down with someone and, at least initially what I'm looking for, is
a thing when you sit down with someone and you can't stop talking to each other.
When all the sudden hours go by and I have that with friends, a lot of my
friends, a lot of my close friends. You know my friend like Justin or my
friend Susie or it sit down and it's like, oh my god, it's we've been
sitting here four hours? So that that's like a quality that I'm looking
for. --You can't predict that.
--You can't. Yeah that's the thing that's either
there or it's not. Yeah, so that and I don't really have a
physical type.
--Okay all right yeah. -- He's open. He's open to a lot of things .
--So I
saw you out in Denver, opening night of Frozen, which was fun. Did you enjoy
watching Frozen on stage. Was that crazy for you? You're obviously in the movie
and you'll be in Frozen 2, correct? --Yes correct.
Did you already record that?
--Started recording it that week, actually. -- And you were recording
songs and stuff?
--I am not at liberty to say anything.
--You don't want to don't play us any demos off
your phone?
--Except that I'm a little be featured as Kristoff in Frozen 2 and
we've started recording it. -- Is it a crazy plot? You can't talk about it.
--I can't talk about anything, no. --It's weird how how far
ahead you do these things.
--Yeah. -- Now, do
you have any indication of what would happen to you from would Disney actually
can they do something to you if you? --If I, in this moment,
revealed the plot of Frozen to you, I would implode.
--They put something in
you.
--Blood a la Milly Bobbie Brown would just start pouring out of my nose.
--Stranger Things. I love that you're putting another Netflix series.
--Yes, listen got to. Yes Netflix is great. Yeah I would start to bleed and then I
would just fall over.
--So you're watching Frozen on stage, and Jelani Aladdin, who has like the most
Disney name ever I feel like. I mean it's kind of crazy Disney name.
He's playing Kristoff in the in the musical, and you're sitting in the
audience thinking, You have no idea happens to this character. You have so
much character information. -- I was like bitch doesn't. No, he made me cry.
--Did he? --Yeah, even just like thinking
about it makes me want to cry. Yes.
There's this whole new, they wrote so much new material, so he knows more about
Kristoff than I do okay because they wrote so much new material for the
character, so the whole story and the relationship between he and Anna is so
filled out in this beautiful way, and I won't spoil it for those who haven't
seen it, but you and I have seen it, and he has this moment in the second act with
this like beautiful song that just like made me cry. It was he was incredible.
--Did you meet him? I saw a photo of you guys together.
--We had a photo op, like backstage. --Was that nice?
--It was great.
Love a photo op. I'll just like take a picture with anyone.
--Is it weird? To be a like Carol Channing going to see Hello
Dolly? Is it weird to be the elder person in this scenario.
--It's, exactly, it's
interesting because yes we were all in Frozen because it you know obviously
it's our voices, but there is a disconnect because it's not like our, you
know, it's animated, so I never even interacted with Josh or Idina or Kristen.
We were all in a recording studio, so there's this sort of there's this kind
of personal experience that I have with it, but they're actually living it on
stage and playing it out on stage every night. It's a totally different thing, so
I didn't feel like the way I felt when I saw Kyle Riabko in Spring Awakening
for the first time, watching someone do what you did. It's a different
experience..
--Right and Cassie Levy of course, old friend of yours, and
she's letting it go.
--She is letting it go -- Having a diva moment.
--I mean, you were there,
at the intermission when after she sings that song, it's I think I felt like
I was lit on fire. --I saw you moments later you were on fire.
--I was like AHHH! So amped, but the whole audience we
were like I couldn't catch my breath.
It's so stunning. We shouldn't even say what happens during it
because it was so shocking. And it was so thrilling and so
over-the-top in the best way. But simple in a lot of ways.
--Very simple. --Theatrical and not
--And like classy and just like boom! -- Like they didn't shoot
her out of a rocket over the audience or anything. She she just sang
it and did little things that were amazing. [laughs] It was exciting.
--Oh my god. She's incredible and she sang the the I'm not gonna swear, but she's sang
that song yeah down. Woof. She sang it down.
She's incredible. And I just did the Hair one night
only like thing with her, and she was singing Easy to Be Hard. And I
was just like, man, that is a voice. I mean she is extraordinary.
--I know you
wanna, your dream is to sort of do everything, and hopefully more TV, and
maybe Mindhunter, but Broadway. I mean you're always open to Broadway, right?
--Always. -- Yeah we're always missing it?
You're always around. You're always like a part of the world.
--If you knew how much I'm always missing it, it's a deep it's a
deep thing, yeah.
--What kind of moments do you dream of? Like if you were
gonna like craft your own show, like what, what's like the perfect
--I want to be Eliza
Doolittle in My Fair Lady but Lauren Ambrose got in there and now I have to
wait another like decade.
--So you were up for that? Was that was that an option,
Was that something...
--I wish I was up for that. Between that and I everyday I'm
texting Tommy Kail about playing Angelica.
--Oh, that, is that, is Tommy Kail
open to that?
--I don't know I feel like Hamilton is such a groundbreaking show
why not just like really take it to the next level, and just make it a white... man.
I'm just obsessed with Renee, actually don't want to be myself as Angelica. I
want to be Renee Elise Goldsberry as Anglica. Which makes it even more like
complicated. Right, she's so awesome. Well, is there anything else you want the
people to know before, before you leave us?
--I want the people to know that I love
them. And that's all. That's all I have to give.
--Well they love
you, too.
--[singing] I can only give you love that lasts forever, and a promise to
be there each time you call. -- I'm not gonna stop you.
--I was, I was like.. How does the rest of it go?
--That's all. --That's all.
--Yeah that's all.
--That's actually all. Thank you my Mr. Groff. I don't know why
I'm calling you Mr. Groff? It just feels like it feels feels like you have a new
authority to you . --I like it. Yeah, I'll take it.
--I'm not gonna stop you.
--Everybody needs to check out Mindhunter. It's fantastic,
and you know it's great about it? You can watch it whenever you want.
--You can watch it right now. --There's no rules
--You can watch, you can watch at any time.
--You can watch the last episode first. I don't recommend it.
--Don't do that. You gotta watch it in order.
--The rules are off. --It's fantastic and I'm so excited
for you and I'm so happy that when I go to a bar everyone's talking about you. So
anyway thank you for being here. -- Thank you for having me.
--I wish you well. Hope to see you soon.
--Thank you for watching, we'll see you next time.
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