<b>SID: HELLO, I'M SID ROTH,</b> <b>AND I AM IN REDDING,</b>
<b>CALIFORNIA, SO BEAUTIFUL,</b> <b>BUT BEHIND US,</b>
<b>IN MOUNT SHASTA, THERE'S</b> <b>SOME 26 MAJOR CULTS.</b>
<b>THERE'S WITCHCRAFT THERE,</b> <b>BUT ALTHOUGH THE DEVIL HAS</b>
<b>POWER, INSIDE THIS CHURCH,</b> <b>BETHEL CHURCH,</b>
<b>IS AN EXPLOSION OF GOD'S</b> <b>POWER AND I WANT TO</b>
<b>INTRODUCE YOU TO SOMEONE</b> <b>THAT ACTUALLY WENT INTO</b>
<b>THE CHURCH AND WITCHES</b> <b>CAME INTO THE CHURCH,</b>
<b>PULLED HER OUT FOR SATANIC</b> <b>RITUAL ABUSE,</b>
<b>NEXT, ON THIS EDITION OF</b> <b>IT'S SUPERNATURAL.</b>
<b>[MUSIC♪] LIFE AFTER DEATH</b> <b>EXPERIENCES AND ANGELIC</b>
<b>COMMUNICATIONS ARE ON THE</b> <b>INCREASE.</b>
<b>TERMINALLY ILL PATIENTS</b> <b>WHOM DOCTORS HAVE GIVEN NO</b>
<b>HOPE ARE UNEXPLAINABLY</b> <b>CURED.</b>
<b>PEOPLE ARE BEING</b> <b>MYSTERIOUSLY PROTECTED</b>
<b>FROM NATURAL DISASTERS.</b>
<b>SID ROTH, YOUR</b> <b>INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER,</b>
<b>EXAMINES THIS INVISIBLE</b> <b>WORLD ON IT'S SUPERNATURAL.</b>
<b>[MUSIC♪]</b>
<b>SID: HELLO, I'M SID ROTH,</b> <b>YOUR INVESTIGATIVE</b>
<b>REPORTER AND I'M HERE WITH</b> <b>ALAN RAY,</b>
<b>AND THIS IS A MAN THAT HAS</b> <b>COUNSELED FORMER</b>
<b>HOMOSEXUALS THAT HAVE BEEN</b> <b>SET FREE;</b>
<b>PEOPLE IN RITUALISTIC</b> <b>ABUSE FROM SATANISM THAT</b>
<b>HAVE BEEN SET FREE.</b>
<b>THIS IS AN UNUSUAL THING.</b>
<b>ALAN, YOU'RE TRAINED IN</b> <b>PSYCHIATRY;</b>
<b>YOU HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE.</b>
<b>DOES THIS HELP YOU A WHOLE</b> <b>LOT IN THIS AREA?</b>
<b>ALAN: WELL, I JUST REALLY</b> <b>HAVE AN UNDERGRADUATE</b>
<b>DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY AND</b> <b>IT HELPS SOME,</b>
<b>BUT THAT WAS BACK IN THE</b> <b>LATE 60S WHEN I GOT MY</b>
<b>DEGREE, AND I REALLY, IT</b> <b>WAS SO OBJECTIONABLE TO MY</b>
<b>CHRISTIANITY BACK THEN I</b> <b>TOSSED IT AWAY,</b>
<b>BUT IT'S GOD HAS</b> <b>RESURRECTED IT AND MADE IT</b>
<b>FRESH WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT</b> <b>TO COME ALIVE AGAIN.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT I FIND IS SOME</b> <b>PEOPLE THROW OUT THE BABY</b>
<b>WITH THE DIRTY BATHWATER,</b> <b>AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT</b>
<b>ARE OF VALUE IN</b> <b>EVERYTHING,</b>
<b>AND JUST LIKE IN</b> <b>WITCHCRAFT,</b>
<b>TO UNDERSTAND THE USE OF</b> <b>PORTIONS OF SCRIPTURE,</b>
<b>WE'RE NOT GOING TO THROW</b> <b>AWAY OUR BIBLE.</b>
<b>ALAN: THAT'S RIGHT.</b>
<b>SID: BUT, TELL ME HOW YOU</b> <b>GOT INTO THIS AREA?</b>
<b>ALAN: WELL, IT WAS A</b> <b>NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN I</b>
<b>CAME ON STAFF HERE AT</b> <b>BETHEL CHURCH THAT I WAS</b>
<b>IN CHARGE OF THE SINGLES</b> <b>GROUP AND THE AVERAGE AGE</b>
<b>WAS MID-30S OR EVEN INTO</b> <b>THE 40S,</b>
<b>REALLY, 50S, AND THESE</b> <b>PEOPLE WERE REALLY</b>
<b>BATTERED AND ABUSED IN</b> <b>THEIR LIFE.</b>
<b>I MEAN, THEY EXPERIENCED</b> <b>MAYBE ONE OR MULTIPLE</b>
<b>DIVORCES, SO I BEGAN IN</b> <b>THE COUNSELING AND I</b>
<b>REALIZED THAT THERE WERE A</b> <b>LOT MORE PROBLEMS THERE</b>
<b>AND A FEW OF THEM THAN ANY</b> <b>KIND OF SURFACE DEALING</b>
<b>WITH THEIR BEHAVIOR COULD</b> <b>MANAGE.</b>
<b>SID: NOW, DOES THIS HAVE</b> <b>ANYTHING TO DO WITH</b>
<b>OBVIOUSLY THE TIMES WE'RE</b> <b>LIVING IN,</b>
<b>THE BREAKDOWN IN MORALITY,</b> <b>BUT THE FACT THAT MOUNT</b>
<b>SHASTA HAS SO MANY</b> <b>DIFFERENT CULT GROUPS AND</b>
<b>THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN</b> <b>NEW AGE AND SATANISTS IN</b>
<b>THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF</b> <b>THE COUNTRY?</b>
<b>ALAN: YEAH, I THINK THAT'S</b> <b>THE CASE.</b>
<b>THERE'S OVER 20 CULT</b> <b>HEADQUARTERS AROUND MOUNT</b>
<b>SHASTA.</b>
<b>IT'S THE SINGLE MOST</b> <b>IMPORTANT LANDMARK IN THE</b>
<b>UNITED STATES.</b>
<b>THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST</b> <b>POWERFUL OCCULTIC AREA IN</b>
<b>THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES,</b> <b>SO THEY TEND TO CONGREGATE</b>
<b>TO PLACES LIKE THIS.</b>
<b>PEOPLE THAT ARE SURVIVING,</b> <b>THIS IS THEIR AREA IN</b>
<b>WHICH THEY LIVED, AND SO</b> <b>THERE'S JUST A HIGH</b>
<b>PERCENTAGE HERE.</b>
<b>SID: NOW, SOME OF OUR</b> <b>VIEWERS THINK THAT IT'S</b>
<b>ALL EITHER SLEIGHT OF HAND</b> <b>OR POSITIVE THINKING,</b>
<b>BUT THERE REALLY IS A</b> <b>POWER IN THE DARK REALM.</b>
<b>ALAN: OH, ABSOLUTELY.</b>
<b>SID: AND AS A RESULT, JUST</b> <b>OUT OF MY CURIOSITY,</b>
<b>YOU SOMETIMES, ARE YOU</b> <b>FEARFUL OF THIS POWER?</b>
<b>I MEAN, YOU ARE KNOCKING</b> <b>OUT PEOPLE IN THEIR</b>
<b>MOVEMENT.</b>
<b>ALAN: THAT'S CORRECT,</b> <b>YEAH,</b>
<b>AND UNFORTUNATELY I'VE</b> <b>BEEN FINDING THAT MY NAME</b>
<b>HAS BEEN DISCUSSED A LOT</b> <b>IN COVEN MEETINGS TO TRY TO</b>
<b>FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO AND</b> <b>THEY'VE BROUGHT IN</b>
<b>EXPERTS, AND NOT JUST ME</b> <b>BUT OUR ENTIRE CHURCH AND</b>
<b>OUR CHURCH STAFF, AND</b> <b>THEY'VE BEEN VERY</b>
<b>CONCERNED.</b>
<b>I'VE NEVER BEEN FEARFUL.</b>
<b>I'VE EXPERIENCED BEING</b> <b>WELL AWARE OF THE DEEP AND</b>
<b>DARK AGENDA THAT THEY HAVE</b> <b>AGAINST WHAT GOD IS DOING</b>
<b>HERE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT</b> <b>GOD HAS JUST REALLY</b>
<b>INSULATED US HERE IN A</b> <b>REAL MARVELOUS FASHION,</b>
<b>TO COVER US AND PROTECT US</b> <b>IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.</b>
<b>SID: NOW, I UNDERSTAND</b> <b>THAT WITCHES SOMETIMES</b>
<b>COME INTO YOUR CHURCH.</b>
<b>ALAN: QUITE OFTEN.</b>
<b>QUITE OFTEN.</b>
<b>SID: NOW, BEFORE YOU WERE</b> <b>AWARE THIS WAS GOING ON,</b>
<b>DID THEY AFFECT THE</b> <b>SERVICE IN ANY WAY?</b>
<b>ALAN: YES, THEY DID, AND</b> <b>WHEN WE FIRST STARTED</b>
<b>GETTING INTO THIS, WE</b> <b>WEREN'T REALLY AWARE OF</b>
<b>WHAT WAS IN OUR SERVICE</b> <b>AND WE WOULD JUST SENSE</b>
<b>THE WORSHIP WAS GOING</b> <b>NOWHERE,</b>
<b>THE PREACHING WAS FLAT.</b>
<b>THERE WAS A LOT OF</b> <b>CONFUSION,</b>
<b>A LOT OF DISRUPTION IN THE</b> <b>SERVICE,</b>
<b>KIDS RUNNING AROUND, AND</b> <b>AFTER WE FINALLY FIGURED</b>
<b>OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, WE</b> <b>BEGAN TO PRAY AN</b>
<b>INTERCESSORY PRAYER TO DO</b> <b>BATTLE IN THE SPIRIT.</b>
<b>WE RENDERED CONFUSION</b> <b>AGAINST THE WITCHES WHO</b>
<b>WERE COMING RATHER THAN</b> <b>THE OTHER WAY AROUND,</b>
<b>WHICH HAS BEEN A LOT OF</b> <b>FUN.</b>
<b>SID: WILL THERE COME A</b> <b>POINT WHERE THE ANOINTING,</b>
<b>OR THE MANIFEST PRESENCE</b> <b>OF GOD,</b>
<b>WILL BE SO STRONG THAT A</b> <b>WITCH WOULD HAVE TO BE</b>
<b>CRAZY TO WALK INTO THIS</b> <b>CHURCH?</b>
<b>ALAN: ACTUALLY, THE LORD'S</b> <b>BEEN TALKING TO ME ABOUT</b>
<b>THAT, ABOUT THREE WEEKS</b> <b>AGO THAT I ACTUALLY SAW A</b>
<b>VISION OF PEOPLE NOT BEING</b> <b>ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING</b>
<b>UNLESS THEY EITHER</b> <b>BELONGED TO THE FLOCK AS</b>
<b>CHRISTIANS, OR ELSE THEY</b> <b>WERE INVITED BY THE HOLY</b>
<b>SPIRIT BECAUSE THE LORD</b> <b>SAW THAT THEIR HEART WAS</b>
<b>READY TO HEAR THE TRUTH,</b> <b>BUT ANYBODY WHO IS GOING</b>
<b>TO TRY TO COME IN JUST TO</b> <b>DO DAMAGE TO THE FLOCK WAS</b>
<b>NOT EVEN GOING TO BE</b> <b>ALLOWED IN THE DOOR,</b>
<b>JUST BY THE HOLINESS OF</b> <b>GOD,</b>
<b>NOT BY ANYTHING THAT WE</b> <b>WOULD DO.</b>
<b>SID: THERE'S A WOMAN THAT</b> <b>I'LL BE INTERVIEWING IN</b>
<b>THE NEXT SEGMENT THAT, SHE</b> <b>CAME TO YOUR CONGREGATION</b>
<b>HAVING PRETTY MUCH</b> <b>RENOUNCED SATANISM AND</b>
<b>ACCEPTED THE LORD, AND I'M</b> <b>TOLD THAT SOME WITCHES</b>
<b>LITERALLY PULLED HER OUT</b> <b>OF THE CHURCH BUILDING AND</b>
<b>ABUSED HER FROM A SATANIC</b> <b>VIEWPOINT.</b>
<b>ALAN: IT'S BEEN COMMON</b> <b>THAT IN HER EXPERIENCE TO</b>
<b>TRY TO GET FREE FROM ALL</b> <b>OF THIS THAT THEY WOULD GO</b>
<b>TO HER HOUSE, THEY WOULD</b> <b>COME INTO THE CHURCH HERE</b>
<b>TO CONTACT HER AND DO</b> <b>EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO</b>
<b>KEEP HER ENTRENCHED IN IT,</b> <b>YOU KNOW,</b>
<b>BY THREAT; THREAT OF</b> <b>BODILY HARM.</b>
<b>AND THERE'S A LOT OF</b> <b>MEDICAL RECORDS TO PROVE</b>
<b>HOW SHE HAD BEEN ABUSED.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT REALLY IS DONE</b> <b>IN SATANIC ABUSE?</b>
<b>ALAN: IT'S SUCH A DARK</b> <b>THING,</b>
<b>I YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE</b> <b>TO TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE</b>
<b>DETAILS EXCEPT THAT</b> <b>TYPICALLY THERE'S A LOT OF</b>
<b>DEATH, THERE'S ANIMALS</b> <b>THAT ARE RITUALLY</b>
<b>SACRIFICED...</b>
<b>SID: I HEAR ABOUT</b> <b>SOMETIMES HUMAN CHILDREN,</b>
<b>AND THEY EVEN BREED THEM</b> <b>FOR THAT.</b>
<b>IS THAT TRUE?</b>
<b>ALAN: THAT'S TRUE.</b>
<b>THAT'S TRUE.</b>
<b>YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF</b> <b>CHILDREN AND ADULTS THAT</b>
<b>DIE IN THIS AREA AND I'VE</b> <b>HAD TO LISTEN TO THOSE</b>
<b>STORIES.</b>
<b>I'VE HAD TO HELP UNDO THE</b> <b>DAMAGE THAT HAS HAPPENED</b>
<b>TO ESPECIALLY THE ADULTS</b> <b>WHO WERE THEN CHILDREN AND</b>
<b>HAD TO PARTICIPATE IN</b> <b>THOSE PARTICULAR</b>
<b>CEREMONIES AND SO FORTH,</b> <b>AND IT'S A REAL TRAGIC</b>
<b>THING.</b>
<b>SID: HOW DOES THE</b> <b>SUPERNATURAL OF GOD FIT</b>
<b>INTO THIS?</b>
<b>ALAN: IT IS AN AMAZING</b> <b>THING TO ME TO WATCH THE</b>
<b>POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT</b> <b>ACTUALLY INTERVENE IN THE</b>
<b>MIDST OF THE HORRIBLE</b> <b>MEMORIES THAT ARE NOW ABLE</b>
<b>TO COME OUT AS A RESULT OF</b> <b>THERE BEING ANSWERS AND</b>
<b>THE POWER OF GOD AVAILABLE</b> <b>TO BRING REDEMPTION AND</b>
<b>HEALING, AND THE POWER OF</b> <b>GOD IS AN AMAZING THING.</b>
<b>IT CAN GO IN AND ACTUALLY</b> <b>COMMUNICATE THE LOVE OF</b>
<b>GOD IN SUCH A WAY THAT</b> <b>IT'S REVEALED TRUTH.</b>
<b>IT'S NOT JUST IN THEIR</b> <b>MIND.</b>
<b>IT'S NOT JUST READING A</b> <b>VERSE AND MENTALLY</b>
<b>APPRAISING IT, BUT IT</b> <b>ACTUALLY GOES INTO THEIR</b>
<b>HEART BY REVELATION.</b>
<b>THEY FEEL GOD'S LOVE AND</b> <b>FORGIVENESS AND TOTAL</b>
<b>REDEMPTION.</b>
<b>SID: I DON'T WANT YOU TO</b> <b>MENTION A SPECIFIC NAME,</b>
<b>BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE</b> <b>TO GIVE ME A SPECIFIC</b>
<b>SUPERNATURAL INSTANCE ON</b> <b>AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS A</b>
<b>MAJOR KEY IN THEIR</b> <b>TRANSFORMATION?</b>
<b>ALAN: OH, THERE'S BEEN</b> <b>MANY,</b>
<b>MANY OF THOSE, YEAH, AND</b> <b>THAT'S WHAT WE LIVE BY.</b>
<b>CERTAINLY THAT'S OUR BREAD</b> <b>AND BUTTER NOW AND THAT'S</b>
<b>THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE CAN BE</b> <b>FREE.</b>
<b>SID: CAN YOU THINK OF ONE</b> <b>SPECIFIC POINT?</b>
<b>ALAN: SURE.</b>
<b>I WOULD ONE IN PARTICULAR</b> <b>WOULD BE,</b>
<b>I WAS DEALING WITH A WOMAN</b> <b>RECENTLY WHO WAS LIVING IN</b>
<b>AN AREA OF CALIFORNIA THAT</b> <b>IS REAL HIGHLY POPULATED</b>
<b>WITH THESE SATANISTS, AND</b> <b>IN THE MIDST OF</b>
<b>REMEMBERING THE EVENT OF</b> <b>WHAT HAPPENED TO HER,</b>
<b>IN THIS RETELLING OF THE</b> <b>STORY,</b>
<b>SHE ACTUALLY HAD A VISION</b> <b>OF JESUS WALKING UP TO HER</b>
<b>AS A CHILD AND PICKING HER</b> <b>UP AND CARRYING HER AWAY</b>
<b>FROM THE EVENT, AND SHE</b> <b>REMEMBERS,</b>
<b>AS SHE WAS RETELLING THE</b> <b>STORY,</b>
<b>THAT SHE RAN AWAY, THAT</b> <b>JESUS ACTUALLY APPEARED TO</b>
<b>HER AND TALKED TO HER</b> <b>ABOUT THIS EVENT,</b>
<b>AND, YOU KNOW, WASHED HER</b> <b>OFF AND CLEANSED HER AND</b>
<b>BEGAN TO SPEAK TRUTH THAT</b> <b>I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO</b>
<b>COMMUNICATE, AND AT THE</b> <b>END OF IT SHE SAID,</b>
<b>ìTHIS IS WHAT JESUS</b> <b>APPEARED TO ME IN THE</b>
<b>MIDST OF THIS MEMORY AND</b> <b>THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD MEî,</b>
<b>AND IT WAS ASTOUNDING!</b>
<b>THINGS THAT I DIDN'T EVEN</b> <b>KNOW ABOUT MYSELF AS FAR</b>
<b>AS THE HEART OF JESUS FOR</b> <b>A PERSON AS A CHILD GOING</b>
<b>THROUGH THIS.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT AFFECT DID THIS</b> <b>HAVE ON HER AS FAR AS IS</b>
<b>SHE HEALTHY TODAY?</b>
<b>FREE OF WITCHCRAFT?</b>
<b>ALAN: SHE'S HEALTHY AND</b> <b>FREE,</b>
<b>BEGAN TO LAUGH IN MY</b> <b>OFFICE,</b>
<b>WANTED TO HUG EVERYBODY.</b>
<b>THE NEXT SUNDAY, WHEN SHE</b> <b>HAD BEEN TERRIFIED OF OUR</b>
<b>CHURCH IN WORSHIP BECAUSE</b> <b>OF HOW IT WOULD TRIGGER</b>
<b>HER ABOUT THE CULT, SHE</b> <b>WAS DANCING IN THE FRONT</b>
<b>OF THE CHURCH AND THE</b> <b>CENTER AND JUST TOTALLY</b>
<b>REDEEMED AND SET FREE.</b>
<b>SID: WE'RE GOING TO MEET</b> <b>AN EX-WITCH,</b>
<b>AN EX-PERSON FROM</b> <b>SATANISM,</b>
<b>AN EX-PERSON FROM SATANIC</b> <b>ABUSE,</b>
<b>AND FOR SECURITY REASONS</b> <b>WE'RE GOING TO NOT</b>
<b>IDENTIFY HER BY NAME.</b>
<b>DON'T GO AWAY.</b>
<b>WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.</b>
<b>[MUSIC♪] (SWOOSH SOUND)</b>
<b>WE'LL RETURN WITH</b> <b>SID ROTH AND IT'S</b>
<b>SUPERNATURAL RIGHT AFTER</b> <b>THIS.</b>
<b>(SWOOSH SOUND) [MUSIC♪] </b>
<b>SID: HELLO, I'M SID ROTH,</b> <b>YOUR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER,</b>
<b>AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING</b> <b>WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE ON</b>
<b>IT'S SUPERNATURAL.</b>
<b>MY GUEST, HER IDENTITY IS</b> <b>COMPLETELY DISGUISED,</b>
<b>HER VOICE IS ALTERED,</b> <b>BECAUSE SHE IS AN</b>
<b>EX-SATANIST.</b>
<b>SHE UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS</b> <b>FROM BABY BEING RITUALLY</b>
<b>ABUSED, AND THERE'S SOME</b> <b>INSIGHTS AND SOME PEOPLE</b>
<b>THAT GOD IS GOING TO SET</b> <b>FREE BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN</b>
<b>SET FREE.</b>
<b>SHE KNOWS THE TRUTH AND</b> <b>THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE</b>
<b>THAT ARE CAPTIVE RIGHT</b> <b>NOW.</b>
<b>DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF</b> <b>THE NUMBERS?</b>
<b>WOMAN: NO, IT WOULD</b> <b>PROBABLY BE STAGGERING</b>
<b>BECAUSE OF THE ONES THAT</b> <b>HAVE BEEN IN GENERATIONAL</b>
<b>TIES AND FOR THOSE WHO</b> <b>HAVE BEEN PULLED INTO</b>
<b>CEREMONIES.</b>
<b>THERE ARE CHILDREN RAISED</b> <b>TO BE BREEDERS AND USED IN</b>
<b>DIFFERENT FORMS THAT ARE</b> <b>TIED TO IT AND DON'T</b>
<b>BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A WAY</b> <b>OUT.</b>
<b>SID: WAS THERE A POINT</b> <b>WHERE YOU DID NOT BELIEVE</b>
<b>THERE WAS ANY WAY OUT?</b>
<b>WOMAN: YES.</b>
<b>THERE WAS A POINT THAT WAS</b> <b>EXTREMELY SCARY AND IT WAS</b>
<b>A POINT WHERE I WAS BEING</b> <b>PULLED BOTH WAYS,</b>
<b>BOTH BY THE CULT AND BY</b> <b>WHEN I KNEW WHAT I WAS</b>
<b>SEEING IN CHRISTIANITY AND</b> <b>WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING</b>
<b>HERE AT BETHEL.</b>
<b>ONE TIME IN PARTICULAR WAS</b> <b>WHEN I REALIZED THAT THERE</b>
<b>WERE PEOPLE BEING HEALED</b> <b>ALL OVER THE SANCTUARY AND</b>
<b>YET THE CULT ONLY HAS THE</b> <b>POWER WITHIN THEIR CIRCLE,</b>
<b>AND I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND</b> <b>THAT AND THAT WAS ONE OF</b>
<b>THE PULLS THAT ACTUALLY...</b>
<b>SID: EXCUSE ME, WHAT DO</b> <b>YOU MEAN THEY WERE BEING</b>
<b>HEALED ALL OVER THE</b> <b>SANCTUARY AND THE CULT</b>
<b>ONLY HAS AUTHORITY IN</b> <b>THEIR CIRCLE?</b>
<b>WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THEIR</b> <b>CIRCLE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THE CULTISTS HAVE</b> <b>THIS CIRCLE THEY USE AS</b>
<b>THEIR CIRCLE OF POWER, AND</b> <b>IN THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH</b>
<b>PEOPLE WERE BEING HEALED</b> <b>ALL OVER THE SANCTUARY.</b>
<b>THERE WERE PEOPLE WITH</b> <b>MIRACLES OCCURRING,</b>
<b>AND I COULDN'T ACCOUNT FOR</b> <b>THAT AND THAT WAS THE REAL</b>
<b>TURNING POINT.</b>
<b>SID: SO YOU'RE TELLING ME</b> <b>IT'S A GREATER POWER IN</b>
<b>CHRISTIANITY THAN IN</b> <b>SATANISM.</b>
<b>WOMAN: ABSOLUTELY.</b>
<b>SID: I KNOW THAT, BUT I</b> <b>LIKE TO HEAR IT!</b>
<b>TELL ME ABOUT YOUR</b> <b>BACKGROUND.</b>
<b>DID YOUR WERE YOUR PARENTS</b> <b>INTO SATANISM?</b>
<b>WOMAN: MY PARENTS AND MY</b> <b>GRANDPARENTS AND IT'S</b>
<b>GENERATIONAL BACK THROUGH</b> <b>HISTORY.</b>
<b>WE HAD TIES WITH ABOUT 12</b> <b>DIFFERENT TYPES OF CULTS.</b>
<b>SID: IS THAT TYPICAL, MANY</b> <b>GENERATIONS OF SATANISM?</b>
<b>WOMAN: IT'S TYPICAL TO BE</b> <b>GENERATIONAL.</b>
<b>IT'S NOT TYPICAL TO BE</b> <b>INVOLVED WITH THAT MANY</b>
<b>DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS</b> <b>WITHIN THE CULTS.</b>
<b>SID: BUT THE THING I DON'T</b> <b>QUITE UNDERSTAND IS,</b>
<b>YOU WERE SOUTHERN</b> <b>BAPTISTS;</b>
<b>VERY RELIGIOUS, IF YOU</b> <b>WILL,</b>
<b>DURING THE DAY AND INTO</b> <b>RITUAL ABUSE OF SATAN AT</b>
<b>NIGHT.</b>
<b>HOW ARE THE TWO</b> <b>COMPATIBLE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THEY AREN'T,</b> <b>BECAUSE THEY ARE SO</b>
<b>OPPOSITE.</b>
<b>WHAT THEY HAD DONE FROM</b> <b>THE TIME I WAS AN INFANT</b>
<b>WAS THEY DIVIDED MY MIND</b> <b>WHERE I HAD A PART OF ME</b>
<b>THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE</b> <b>CULT AND A PART OF MY MIND</b>
<b>THAT COULDN'T ACCEPT THAT</b> <b>KIND OF SITUATION THAT</b>
<b>KEPT ME NORMAL DURING THE</b> <b>DAY TIME,</b>
<b>AND I WAS RAISED TO MAKE</b> <b>THE APPEARANCE OF GOOD IN</b>
<b>MY FAMILY.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT WAS YOUR</b> <b>FATHER'S BACKGROUND?</b>
<b>WOMAN: HE WAS FROM A</b> <b>QUAKER-SOUTHERN BAPTIST</b>
<b>BACKGROUND.</b>
<b>SID: AND WHAT WAS HIS</b> <b>BACKGROUND IN SATANISM?</b>
<b>WOMAN: HE WAS IN</b> <b>LEADERSHIP.</b>
<b>SID: OKAY, WHY WOULD A</b> <b>SATANIST WANT TO BE IN A</b>
<b>STAUNCH FUNDAMENTALIST</b> <b>SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHURCH?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THIS IS TYPICAL;</b> <b>THAT THEY WILL HAVE A</b>
<b>FRONT THAT WILL MAKE THEM</b> <b>LOOK NORMAL TO SOCIETY.</b>
<b>A LOT OF THE LEADERSHIP IN</b> <b>DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS</b>
<b>THROUGHOUT THE UNITED</b> <b>STATES AND CHURCHES</b>
<b>THROUGHOUT THE UNITED</b> <b>STATES ALSO ARE VERY</b>
<b>HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE</b> <b>CULT.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT WAS THE FIRST</b> <b>TIME THAT YOU BEGAN TO</b>
<b>QUESTION WHAT WAS</b> <b>HAPPENING TO YOU?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I THINK THERE WERE</b> <b>DIFFERENT TIMES IN MY</b>
<b>LIFE.</b>
<b>WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE I</b> <b>REALIZED THERE WAS</b>
<b>SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY</b> <b>WRONG BUT I COULDN'T TELL</b>
<b>WHAT IT WAS, AND AGAIN, AT</b> <b>DIFFERENT POINTS WHEN I</b>
<b>HAD MY CHILDREN I KNEW</b> <b>SOMETHING WAS VERY WRONG,</b>
<b>BUT I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND</b> <b>WHY,</b>
<b>AND EVENTUALLY I DROPPED</b> <b>OUT OF CHURCH BECAUSE I</b>
<b>WOULD FINISH THE SERVICE</b> <b>AND I WOULD LEAVE SO</b>
<b>FRUSTRATED, AND YET I KNEW</b> <b>PEOPLE HAD SOMETHING I</b>
<b>WANTED BUT I COULDN'T</b> <b>FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS WRONG</b>
<b>IN MY LIFE THAT I COULDN'T</b> <b>FEEL AS HAPPY AND</b>
<b>SATISFIED IN JESUS AS THEY</b> <b>WERE.</b>
<b>AND SO THAT WAS A POINT IN</b> <b>TIME WHERE I KNEW</b>
<b>SOMETHING HAD TO BE</b> <b>DIFFERENT.</b>
<b>I LEFT CHURCH FOR AN</b> <b>ENTIRE SUMMER AND THEN IN</b>
<b>THE FALL I WENT TO A</b> <b>CHRISTIAN COFFEE HOUSE.</b>
<b>SID: WHY DID YOU GO TO THE</b> <b>CHRISTIAN COFFEE HOUSE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I WAS JUST GOING TO</b> <b>BUY A CARD AND I REALLY</b>
<b>KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG,</b> <b>BUT I COULDN'T REALLY</b>
<b>DISCERN WHAT IT WAS.</b>
<b>I THOUGHT, I'LL JUST GO BY</b> <b>THERE.</b>
<b>MAYBE THERE'S A BOOK.</b>
<b>MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING</b> <b>THAT WILL HELP.</b>
<b>SID: SO YOU WERE REALLY</b> <b>REACHING OUT FOR HELP.</b>
<b>WOMAN: YES.</b>
<b>SID: JUST OUT OF</b> <b>CURIOSITY,</b>
<b>WAS THERE ANYONE THAT YOU</b> <b>KNOW OF TODAY THAT WAS</b>
<b>PRAYING FOR YOU TO COME</b> <b>OUT OF SATANISM?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I THINK THERE WERE</b> <b>PEOPLE PRAYING FOR ME BUT</b>
<b>NOT NECESSARILY TO COME</b> <b>OUT OF SATANISM BECAUSE</b>
<b>MOST OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS</b> <b>DIDN'T HAVE AN IDEA THAT</b>
<b>THIS WAS EVEN HAPPENING.</b>
<b>I HAD PEOPLE WHO PRAYED,</b> <b>YOU KNOW,</b>
<b>THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, BUT</b> <b>WHEN I LEFT THE CHURCH,</b>
<b>WHAT HAPPENED WAS I HAD</b> <b>BEEN PROGRAMMED WITH HYMNS</b>
<b>AND IN THE FUNDAMENTAL</b> <b>CHURCHES THE HYMNS WERE</b>
<b>REINFORCING WHAT THEY HAD</b> <b>TAUGHT ME IN THE CULTS.</b>
<b>SID: LET ME SEE IF I</b> <b>UNDERSTAND THIS.</b>
<b>YOU WERE PROGRAMMED WITH</b> <b>HYMNS WITH EVIL ATTACHED</b>
<b>WITH IT, BUT THEY WERE</b> <b>GOOD CHRISTIAN HYMNS,</b>
<b>SO THAT WHEN YOU WOULD GO</b> <b>TO CHURCH AND HEAR THESE</b>
<b>HYMNS, YOU WOULD THINK</b> <b>ABOUT THINGS IN SATANISM.</b>
<b>WOMAN: THAT'S CORRECT.</b>
<b>SID: WHY WOULD THEY DO</b> <b>THAT?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THEY DO THAT TO</b> <b>DEFILE ANYTHING HAVING TO</b>
<b>DO WITH CHRISTIANITY, TO</b> <b>MAKE IT WHERE CHRISTIANITY</b>
<b>WOULDN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE</b> <b>WHO HAVE BEEN RAISED</b>
<b>GENERATIONALLY.</b>
<b>'AMAZING GRACE' IS ONE I</b> <b>THINK OF,</b>
<b>AND THEY DID HORRIBLE</b> <b>THINGS DURING THE TIME</b>
<b>THAT 'AMAZING GRACE' WAS</b> <b>SUNG,</b>
<b>SO EVERY TIME I WAS IN A</b> <b>CHURCH SERVICE AND THEY</b>
<b>WOULD SING IT, THEN I</b> <b>WOULD HAVE THESE HORRIBLE</b>
<b>FEELINGS OF TERROR,</b> <b>FRIGHT,</b>
<b>OF JUST CONFUSION, OF NOT</b> <b>KNOWING WHAT WAS WRONG BUT</b>
<b>KNOWING SOMETHING WAS VERY</b> <b>WRONG.</b>
<b>SID: YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT</b> <b>THAT WAS CROSSING MY MIND</b>
<b>IS, WHEN GOD DOES NEW</b> <b>THINGS,</b>
<b>AND RIGHT NOW HE'S UP TO</b> <b>SOMETHING NEW RIGHT HERE</b>
<b>AT BETHEL CHURCH AND MANY</b> <b>CHURCHES THROUGHOUT THE</b>
<b>WORLD, HE HAS MUSIC.</b>
<b>IT MUST FOUL THE SATANISTS</b> <b>UP!</b>
<b>THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW,</b> <b>BRAINWASH YOU WITH THE</b>
<b>NEW!</b>
<b>THEY CAN ONLY BRAINWASH</b> <b>YOU WITH THE OLD.</b>
<b>WOMAN: THAT'S CORRECT.</b>
<b>IT'S CAUSING CONFUSION FOR</b> <b>THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T</b>
<b>KNOW WHAT TO DO IN</b> <b>SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE</b>
<b>AREN'T HEARING THOSE</b> <b>FUNDAMENTAL HYMNS.</b>
<b>IT'S NOT REINFORCING IT,</b> <b>AND THAT'S MAKING IT MORE</b>
<b>PREVALENT FOR PEOPLE TO</b> <b>REMEMBER THINGS TO DO WITH</b>
<b>THE CULT.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT HAPPENED AT THIS</b> <b>COFFEE HOUSE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: OKAY, THIS WAS A</b> <b>CHANGE IN MY LIFE BECAUSE</b>
<b>I WAS SITTING HAVING A CUP</b> <b>OF COFFEE AND WRITING A</b>
<b>CARD TO A FRIEND WHEN A</b> <b>MAN CAME UP AND STARTED</b>
<b>SPEAKING INTO MY LIFE AND</b> <b>TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT</b>
<b>I HAD DONE.</b>
<b>SID: HOW DID HE KNOW?</b>
<b>WOMAN: HE HAD THE GIFT OF</b> <b>PROPHECY,</b>
<b>EVENTUALLY I FOUND OUT.</b>
<b>SID: NOW, WHAT HE TOLD</b> <b>YOU,</b>
<b>WAS THAT WAS HE HITTING A</b> <b>BULLS-EYE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: HE WAS ABSOLUTELY</b> <b>100% CORRECT.</b>
<b>HE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT</b> <b>THINGS,</b>
<b>DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES I HAD</b> <b>BEEN INVOLVED IN.</b>
<b>HE TALKED VERY SPECIFIC,</b> <b>AND IT WASN'T</b>
<b>GENERALITIES.</b>
<b>IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WE USED</b> <b>ALL THREE HEALINGS WITHIN</b>
<b>A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME</b> <b>AND HE WAS JUST DEAD-ON IN</b>
<b>WHAT HE WAS SAYING, AND IT</b> <b>SCARED ME.</b>
<b>SID: WHY'D IT SCARE YOU?</b>
<b>HOLD THAT THOUGHT.</b>
<b>TELL YOU WHAT, WE'LL COME</b> <b>BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.</b>
<b>DON'T GO AWAY.</b>
<b>[MUSIC♪]</b>
<b>(SWOOSH SOUND)</b>
<b>WE'LL RETURN WITH</b> <b>SID ROTH AND IT'S</b>
<b>SUPERNATURAL RIGHT AFTER</b> <b>THIS.</b>
<b>(SWOOSH SOUND) [MUSIC♪]</b>
<b>SID: HELLO, I'M SID ROTH,</b> <b>YOUR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER</b>
<b>AND I'M INTERVIEWING</b> <b>AN EX-SATANIST,</b>
<b>AND BECAUSE OF SECURITY,</b> <b>WE ARE DISGUISING HER</b>
<b>APPEARANCE AND HER VOICE.</b>
<b>YOU WERE TELLING ME THAT</b> <b>IN A WAY YOU WERE REACHING</b>
<b>OUT FOR HELP, AND YOU WENT</b> <b>INTO A CHRISTIAN COFFEE</b>
<b>HOUSE AND SOMEONE CAME UP</b> <b>TO YOU.</b>
<b>YOU DIDN'T KNOW HIM AT ALL</b> <b>AND HE,</b>
<b>AS WE LIKE TO SAY, 'READ</b> <b>YOUR MAIL'.</b>
<b>HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN HE</b> <b>KNEW THESE THINGS ABOUT</b>
<b>YOUR LIFE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: IT ABSOLUTELY</b> <b>TERRIFIED ME BECAUSE I HAD</b>
<b>NOT GROWN UP NEAR ANYONE</b> <b>WHO SPOKE PROPHECY,</b>
<b>AND SO I CALLED A FRIEND</b> <b>AND SHE TOLD ME IT WAS</b>
<b>GOD; I NEED TO LISTEN.</b>
<b>SID: AND WERE YOU HAPPY,</b> <b>AFRAID?</b>
<b>WHAT WAS GOING ON INSIDE</b> <b>OF YOU?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I WAS ABSOLUTELY</b> <b>TERRIFIED.</b>
<b>I JUST THOUGHT, WHAT IS</b> <b>GOD DOING AND WHY IS THIS</b>
<b>HAPPENING?</b>
<b>SID: AND THEN YOU SAW A</b> <b>CHRISTIAN TELEVISION SHOW.</b>
<b>WHY ARE YOU WATCHING A</b> <b>CHRISTIAN TELEVISION SHOW?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THAT NIGHT I KNEW</b> <b>SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED THE</b>
<b>DAY BEFORE, AND SO THE</b> <b>NEXT DAY I WAS WATCHING A</b>
<b>CHRISTIAN SHOW, JUST KIND</b> <b>OF SEARCHING,</b>
<b>TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT</b> <b>WAS GOING ON,</b>
<b>AND I HAD A VISION.</b>
<b>SID: A VISION?</b>
<b>WOMAN: A VISION.</b>
<b>SID: WAS THIS FROM GOD?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT</b> <b>IT WAS AT FIRST.</b>
<b>SID: WHAT WAS IT?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I CALLED BETHEL AND</b> <b>ASKED IF THERE WAS SOMEONE</b>
<b>HERE THAT COULD GIVE ME</b> <b>INFORMATION AND TELL ME</b>
<b>POSSIBLY WHAT HAD</b> <b>HAPPENED,</b>
<b>AND WHEN I I KNEW THAT IF</b> <b>I CAME HERE,</b>
<b>I'D PROBABLY NEVER COME</b> <b>BACK AGAIN AND I WOULD</b>
<b>NEVER RUN INTO THESE</b> <b>PEOPLE AGAIN AND BE</b>
<b>EMBARRASSED BY HAVING SUCH</b> <b>A WEIRD QUESTION,</b>
<b>AND SO THE PERSON I SPOKE</b> <b>TO WAS ONE OF THE PASTORS</b>
<b>AND HE SAID, NO, THIS IS</b> <b>FROM GOD AND YOU NEED TO</b>
<b>DECIDE IF IT'S FOR YOU OR</b> <b>IT'S CORPORATE.</b>
<b>AND THAT WAS A POINT WHERE</b> <b>I KNEW GOD WAS DOING</b>
<b>SOMETHING AND IT WAS</b> <b>SOMETHING I COULDN'T</b>
<b>UNDERSTAND.</b>
<b>SID: COULD YOU TELL ME THE</b> <b>VISION?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I HAD A VISION OF A</b> <b>VASE,</b>
<b>AND THE VASE WAS JUST</b> <b>SHATTERED,</b>
<b>AND THEN THE VASE HAD LOTS</b> <b>OF HANDS AROUND IT AND IT</b>
<b>WAS IN PLASTER.</b>
<b>AND THEN I COULD SEE THE</b> <b>CHIPPING AWAY OF THE VASE.</b>
<b>THEN I SAW THE VASE AND IT</b> <b>HAD,</b>
<b>LIKE, A RAINBOW AND IT HAD</b> <b>A DOVE COMING OUT OF IT</b>
<b>WITH JUST A STREAM OF</b> <b>WATER GOING IN,</b>
<b>AND AT THAT TIME I DIDN'T</b> <b>KNOW WHAT IT WAS,</b>
<b>BUT I KNEW IT WAS</b> <b>SOMETHING POWERFUL.</b>
<b>SID: I DON'T NEED A</b> <b>SUPERNATURAL REVELATION TO</b>
<b>KNOW WHAT THAT IS.</b>
<b>NOW, YOU CAME HERE FOR</b> <b>COUNSELING.</b>
<b>WOMAN: THAT'S CORRECT.</b>
<b>SID: AND AFTER A PERIOD OF</b> <b>COUNSELING,</b>
<b>MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN</b> <b>UNDER RITUAL ABUSE HAVE</b>
<b>BLOCKED, AS A FORM OF</b> <b>PROTECTION,</b>
<b>THE HORRIBLE THINGS</b> <b>THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AND</b>
<b>THEY DON'T EVEN REMEMBER</b> <b>THEM.</b>
<b>WAS THAT TRUE IN YOUR</b> <b>CASE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THAT WAS 100% TRUE.</b>
<b>I HAD NO IDEA.</b>
<b>I HAD A VERY NORMAL LIFE,</b> <b>WAS ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY</b>
<b>EVENTS, ACTIVE IN CHURCH,</b> <b>HAD GONE TO A CHRISTIAN</b>
<b>COLLEGE AND KNEW SOMETHING</b> <b>WAS WRONG BUT DIDN'T KNOW</b>
<b>WHAT IT WAS UNTIL I</b> <b>STARTED HAVING MEMORIES OF</b>
<b>A RITUAL.</b>
<b>SID: HOW DOES IT FEEL NOW</b> <b>TO BE FREE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: ABSOLUTELY</b> <b>WONDERFUL.</b>
<b>I HAVE SORROW OVER THE</b> <b>YEARS I'VE LOST,</b>
<b>BUT I ALSO HAVE INCREDIBLE</b> <b>JOY.</b>
<b>SID: WELL, LET ME ASK YOU</b> <b>A VERY POINTED QUESTION</b>
<b>FOR A REASON.</b> <b>[MUSIC♪]</b>
<b>WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HEAR A</b> <b>SONG THAT PERHAPS YOU WERE</b>
<b>PROGRAMMED TO TIE IN WITH</b> <b>SATANISM,</b>
<b>AS YOU HAD EXPLAINED</b> <b>EARLIER,</b>
<b>THAT USED CHRISTIAN HYMNS</b> <b>WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE</b>
<b>ABUSE AND TO BRAINWASH YOU</b> <b>AGAINST CHRISTIANITY IN</b>
<b>KIND OF A PERVERSE</b> <b>FASHION?</b>
<b>WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HEAR</b> <b>A SONG LIKE 'AMAZING</b>
<b>GRACE'?</b> <b>[AMAZING GRACE INSTRUMENTAL♪]</b>
<b>WOMAN: YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN</b> <b>RECLAIMED FOR GOD RIGHT</b>
<b>NOW.</b>
<b>I HAVE SORROW OVER THE</b> <b>YEARS THAT I LOST AND THEY</b>
<b>WAY THAT THEY HAVE USED</b> <b>IT,</b>
<b>BUT I HAVE INCREDIBLE JOY</b> <b>AND INCREDIBLE DEPTH OF</b>
<b>FEELING FOR THE SONGS.</b>
<b>THEY HAVE A SIGNIFICANCE</b> <b>THAT I'M SURE A LOT OF</b>
<b>PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND.</b>
<b>SID: YOU TOLD ME THAT</b> <b>THERE WAS ONE POWER IN A</b>
<b>CHRISTIAN CHURCH THAT</b> <b>OVERCAME EVERYTHING THE</b>
<b>DEVIL HAD, AND IT'S A WORD</b> <b>THAT WE HAVE IN THE BIBLE.</b>
<b>IT'S CALLED 'LOVE'.</b>
<b>HOW WAS THIS DEMONSTRATED</b> <b>TO YOU HERE AT BETHEL?</b>
<b>WOMAN: WHEN I CAME TO</b> <b>BETHEL I COULDN'T</b>
<b>UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE HERE</b> <b>BECAUSE THEY WOULD HUG YOU</b>
<b>AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT</b> <b>I DIDN'T DO.</b>
<b>I WAS VERY RESERVED.</b>
<b>I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT</b> <b>KIND OF LOVE AND THERE WAS</b>
<b>A POINT WHERE THINGS</b> <b>BECAME VERY HARD BECAUSE</b>
<b>OF THE DIFFERENT ABUSE</b> <b>THAT THEY WERE USING AND I</b>
<b>JUST WANTED TO GIVE UP AND</b> <b>QUIT.</b>
<b>AND PASTOR ALAN AND HIS</b> <b>SECRETARY BOTH TOLD ME</b>
<b>THAT MORNING, YOU KNOW, IF</b> <b>YOU LEAVE,</b>
<b>WE'RE STILL GOING TO LOVE</b> <b>YOU.</b>
<b>WE'RE STILL GOING TO PRAY</b> <b>FOR YOU AND WE'RE GOING TO</b>
<b>PRAY YOUR PROTECTION.</b>
<b>AND THE LOVE IS WHAT KEPT</b> <b>DRAWING ME BACK.</b>
<b>IF I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND</b> <b>ANYTHING ELSE,</b>
<b>I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING</b> <b>IN THE LOVE HERE.</b>
<b>SID: AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN</b> <b>CHRISTIANS ARE REALLY</b>
<b>WORSHIPING GOD TO A</b> <b>PRACTICING SATANIST THAT</b>
<b>MIGHT BE INFILTRATING A</b> <b>CHURCH?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THE HARDEST PART</b> <b>FOR SATAN IN A CHURCH IS</b>
<b>WHEN THERE'S PRAISE.</b>
<b>THE POWER OF THE CHRISTIAN</b> <b>COMMUNITY IS IN THE PRAISE</b>
<b>TO GOD.</b>
<b>THERE'S NOBODY BEING DOWN</b> <b>AND BEING MOURNFUL AND</b>
<b>'WOE IS ME'.</b>
<b>IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE</b> <b>PRAISE AND IN THE SINGING</b>
<b>AND IN THE WORSHIP.</b>
<b>AND THAT'S A TIME AND A</b> <b>LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE</b>
<b>PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE CULT</b> <b>LEAVING BECAUSE THEY DON'T</b>
<b>KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT.</b>
<b>SID: YOU ALSO TOLD ME THAT</b> <b>IN SATANISM THERE ARE A</b>
<b>LOT OF THINGS DONE THAT</b> <b>ARE ALMOST COUNTERFEITS OF</b>
<b>AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANITY.</b>
<b>GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE.</b>
<b>WOMAN: THEY TAKE ANYTHING</b> <b>THAT IS IMPORTANT IN</b>
<b>CHRISTIANITY AND</b> <b>ABSOLUTELY DESTROY THE</b>
<b>FEELINGS TOWARD THAT.</b>
<b>FOR INSTANCE, THE THINGS</b> <b>USED IN COMMUNION ARE USED</b>
<b>IN THE CULT IN SUCH A WAY</b> <b>THAT THEY ARE NEGATIVE.</b>
<b>SID: I HAVE TO ASK YOU</b> <b>THIS QUESTION.</b>
<b>WHILE YOU WERE BEING</b> <b>COUNSELED,</b>
<b>YOU WERE IN A VULNERABLE</b> <b>STATE AND THEY ACTUALLY</b>
<b>CAME TO THE CHURCH AND</b> <b>PULLED YOU OUT.</b>
<b>WHERE YOU STAND RIGHT NOW,</b> <b>WOULD YOU EVER TOUCH</b>
<b>ANYTHING OF RITUAL ABUSE</b> <b>OR SATANISM?</b>
<b>WOMAN: I WOULD NEVER GO</b> <b>BACK TO ANYTHING HAVING TO</b>
<b>DO WITH THE CULT IN ANY</b> <b>WAY.</b>
<b>SID: AND IF YOU COULD GIVE</b> <b>ONE THOUGHT TO ONE PERSON</b>
<b>THAT'S A PRACTICING</b> <b>SATANIST,</b>
<b>WHAT WOULD IT BE?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THAT THE LOVE OF</b> <b>GOD AND THE CHRISTIAN</b>
<b>MOVEMENT IS SO MUCH MORE</b> <b>POWERFUL.</b>
<b>IT'S STRONGER AND IT'S</b> <b>DEFINITELY WORTH ANY</b>
<b>CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD</b> <b>HAVE TO GO THROUGH.</b>
<b>SID: IS THERE HOPE FOR</b> <b>EVERY PERSON IN CULTS AND</b>
<b>SATANISM?</b>
<b>WOMAN: THERE IS JUST AN</b> <b>INCREDIBLE JOY.</b>
<b>THERE'S INCREDIBLE</b> <b>FORGIVENESS FROM JESUS AND</b>
<b>THE FATHER GOD, AND I</b> <b>WOULD RECOMMEND THAT</b>
<b>ANYONE WHO IS IN SATANISM</b> <b>STOP AND LOOK AT THE</b>
<b>POWER.</b>
<b>GO INTO THE CHURCHES AND</b> <b>CHALLENGE IT.</b>
<b>GO IN THEIR PRAYER LIFE</b> <b>AND LET PEOPLE PRAY FOR</b>
<b>YOU AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.</b>
<b>IF YOU DON'T THINK IT'S</b> <b>REAL,</b>
<b>TRY IT.</b>
<b>SID: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING</b> <b>TO COMMENT BEYOND THAT.</b>
<b>I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT</b> <b>IS REAL!</b>
<b>HE IS REAL!</b>
<b>HE'S REAL!</b>
<b>JESUS IS THE ANSWER TO</b> <b>EVERY PROBLEM YOU HAVE.</b>
<b>NOT RELIGION; JESUS.</b>
<b>GET IT?</b> <b>KNOWING HIM, INTIMACY</b>
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