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In this last video, Aleandro tells us more about his NDE and about his return.
He also tells us about his search for explanations ...
and about some regressions he made ...
when he had some surprises related to the NDE.
Shall we watch?
And did he tell why you should come back?
Was there any mission?
Was there any task?
I had ... not a task ... I knew I had something unfinished ...
I knew I had to finish something.
And this "finishing something" had to do with my parents.
It was a mission ... not quite a mission ... it was something very deep ... that connected me with them.
and my grandfather showed me that I really had to come back.
But I did not want to come back.
At that moment I saw the suffering of my parents ...
but the stupor of being there ...
the dazzle was so great ...
it was bigger than the will of returning.
But finally there came a time when I ...
after he told me that I had to come back,
and after he showed me all that place ...
I just ... came back.
Did he say goodbye to you ... did you have any farewells?
No.
Not that I remember.
Was It just ... in the blink of an eye ...?
It was in the blink of an eye ...
In a certain moment ...
I had a vision ...
and it was as if I was falling ...
falling from a very high cliff ...
the feeling was that I was falling off this cliff ...
... falling into the sea.
falling in the sea and drowning me.
feeling that anguish, that great weight.
That weight ... it's a feeling ... I do not know if you've ever had a feeling of drowning ...
I remember that when I was a child I experienced a sensation of drowning ...
sometimes and [the sensation on my return] was the same sensation, or worse.
The sensation of leaving that place ...
of feeling a great weight ...
and suddenly fall ... and have the feeling of drowning.
I knew I was coming back ...
because of the feeling I had.
At this moment, when you're coming back ... you see a movie ...
in your head ... of your whole life ... very fast.
very fast ... of all your life ... of that place ...
in milliseconds ... in a way very difficult to explain.
[a movie] of your life including that place or just of your life?
Of my life including that place.
Of everything I've been through ... since I was born until ... that place ... all together, I can not explain.
It seemed to be a lot of information ... it did not fit inside my head ...
It seemed to be much thing coming at once ...
And I remember that when I came back I had the feeling that I knew ...
that I had come back but I could not move ...
Did you already feel yourself inside the body?
I knew I was inside my body but I could not move.
I opened my eyes ...
that's when I saw a young woman in front of me, who called me by name ... a redheaded girl ...
she called me by my name ... and I fell asleep again ...
then, when I woke up ... I woke up in a shock state ... very strong shock state...
I got despaired ...
then the nurses gave me a blue pill ...
they put it under my tongue and that's when I calmed down.
But who was that redheaded young woman you saw before ... I did not understand.
I remember I saw this young woman ... it was the first thing, the first scene I saw ...
It was this redheaded young woman ... she called me by my name ...
She told me it would be alright ...
it's as if she had given me peace ...
peace I needed in that whirlwind of ... feelings.
I thought she was a local nurse.
Then I lost consciousness again ... and when I woke up ...
then I got despaired ... and that's when other nurses who were there ...
put that blue pill ...
under my tongue...
and I fell asleep again.
Then ... later ... when I woke up ...
the doctors came to see me, I saw my parents ...
I was told that I had undergone surgery ...
that I had stayed four days in a coma ...
only four days ...
that's what shook me more ... because ...
I didn't feel being in a coma for four days.
At that moment ... did you immediately remember all the experience you had?
Not all of it.
At that moment there were some flashes ... but the sensation ...
of the time...
the sensation of the time I spent there ... it was not only four days.
I had the feeling that I had stayed there longer.
I knew I had been there, but the memories were coming.
The more time passed, the more memories came.
As I told you, many memories came at once.
It was as if a lot of information was put in my brain ...
and my brain was reorganizing itself.
It was as if I had been traumatized ...
as if I had been beaten and I was regaining my senses ...
and my brain was reorganizing.
It's interesting that you say brain as if you had a brain when you were there ...
The thoughts ... when I was there.
You ... falling off the cliff ... feeling as you were drowning ...
I guess that feeling of drowning would perhaps be the re-entry into the body?
Yes ... the re-entry in the body.
But you did not see your body ... you did not feel your body ... you did not ...
Can not you tell how you got into your body?
No ... I can not say the way I came in and ...
when I say cliff it's because it really was a feeling of falling ...
it was a feeling of falling and it was a very drowning sensation.
I did not see a cliff ... I did not see the sea ... but that was the feeling.
It was not good ... right?
No, it was horrible.
It was horrible ... it was a horrible feeling ...
along with a very great frustration ... and a very great sadness ...
Because you left there?
The situation of the post coma was already horrible.
And that feeling made it worse.
As you told me about the beings that were more transparent ... less transparent ...
I had the feeling that there was a kind of hierarchical organization ...
an organization that involved everything.
Did you feel it?
I will not say hierarchy.
I'll say freedom.
I'll say freedom.
It seems like the more time you spend in that place ...
the more experience you accumulate in that location ...
more freedom ... you acquire.
So I will not say hierarchy ... I will say that you will gain freedom.
Then, automatically, the more freedom you have ...
it can be said that ... that you are more ...
that you can more ... than others that are less transparent ...
but ... hierarchy ...
And those who are able to do more ...
I knew there was some kind of organization ...
Those who were more able would take care of the less able?
That's it ... those who could more ... yes.
It was a kind of caring ...
and not hirarchy.
The way my grandfather took care of me ... my grandfather was really taking care of me ...
that was the hierarchy I felt.
Would someone be taking care of him?
Yes, someone would ...
Everyone took care of someone.
I felt someone was taking care of my grandfather ...
and I felt that other people were taking care of these people ...
That place was being taken care ... by something bigger.
Did you feel that everyone who was there also came here?
Or not all of them?
I felt that those people who were there ... have already been here.
I felt it.
Because somehow I knew them ...
so ... if I knew them ...
if I felt I knew them, they have already been here... really.
But couldn't you have just known them ... there?
Previously?
I do not know how to explain, Carlos,
I can not explain it.
Do you, anyway, feel like they've already been here?
I feel like they've already been here.
All of them ... even the most transparent?
All of them.
All of them... I felt they've been here ...
I felt I've seen them somewhere ...
because the feelings you have there ...
are sensations that you experienced here ...
only ... increased.
So the feeling of knowing those people ...
you know that...
it's a feeling that you really ... have been with these people before.
Can you understand?
Only you can not explain.
I remember that after the accident ...
when I ... I ... I opened up with some people ...
I did not open up with everyone ... I opened up with few people ...
very few people could understand.
I was always looking for someone to tell my story ...
but few people understood me.
And I wanted to tell all about it.
To tell ... people ... to ... share ... what had happened to me.
But deep down I was afraid.
Because ... as I told you, I was a person before and another after ... this accident.
Did you receive some kind of guidance ... did your grandfather say anything ...?
Because there has already been a case where the person reported that he was supposed to tell what he had learned.
Was there something similar to this in your case?
He did not make it clear that I should tell, that I should share.
This idea came with me.
There was no "you have to talk" statement ...
This came ... it came with me.
I think every person who goes through this ...
comes with this same will ... be it small or big,
but this will comes with the person.
From the first day after your return you feel like talking.
But the longer you spend here the more you realize that not everyone is ready ...
to listen ... to listen to what you are ... speaking ...
When you come back, the excitement to tell is very great ...
It's like you're a kid wanting to tell.
But gradually, as you reformulate your thoughts, you see that it is not so.
Because not everyone is prepared to listen ...
because a lot of people do not believe ...
other people ... lead to the other side ...
thinking that you, for having been in an accident, may have had hallucinations ... that sort of thing.
And I did not want to go through this ... I did not want to be labeled ... of something I was not.
So ... let's get back to the hospital ... you woke up ... they put the blue pill under your tongue.
So ... I woke up from the coma.
When I woke up I spent another day or two at this place ...
and that's when I was told that I had only spent four days in a coma.
I was transfered to a normal... room ... of infirmary ...
I stayed one more week in this place ...
And then I left [the hospital].
I was very weak ... I could not walk ...
Anyway ... I was getting into a very depressed state ...
The medical doctor soon realized that it would be better for me to recover at home, that I had to go home.
because there my recovery would be better.
Was depression all about the longing for that place?
Yes.
But also because of the frustration of ...
I've always been a very active person.
I used to play sports ... I really enjoyed going out ...
and there I was trapped in a bed ... I could not move.
Because I had fractured the hip ... I could not move ... it was a lot of pain ...
I could not move from here ... I could not move ...
just the arms, very carefully.
I remember that one of the last days I asked the nurses ...
if there was anyone ... some doctor ... or nurse ... with the description I gave them ... redhead ...
That first person you saw?
That first young woman I had the impression of seeing ...
At that moment I thought I'd had only the impression of having seen her ...
I thought it could have been just my imagination.
So I asked them ... and they said there was no one like that ...
[and I concluded]: "then it must have been my imagination."
Then I went back home ...
and the frustration was growing ...
it was as if that place had returned with me.
I came ... and it came ... with me ...
and that feeling of ... frustration was increasing and increasing ... and that was not good.
It was not good for me, I needed to sort it out.
At night the feeling was worse.
At night the feeling was worse because ... at night ...
At night I began to feel things I had never felt before ...
It seems that it was much heavier ... at night ...
What do you mean ... when you say "heavier" ...?
Sometimes I would wake up and I would ... see my body ... in bed ...
all bandaged ...
that was very bad
Did you leave your body ... anytime before the NDE?
No.
No ... I did not leave it before.
This started to happen later ...
after the accident ... this happened very commonly.
It was not good.
It was not very good ...
it was not good because
I was very depressed when I came home ...
and the feeling when you left the body... it was horrible ... triplicated ... it was very bad.
What was tripling?
The pain?
Triplicated ... increased ... the pain ... increased greatly ...
But even when you were out of body, or was it when you came back to it?
No ... it was when I was out of it ... the pain increased a lot ...
I wanted to return to it ... and sometimes it was difficult to do it.
But let me understand one thing ... being out of the body did you feel ... pain?
Pain.
emotional pain... and not physical pain.
That pain ... that anguish.
As I told you, I was kind of depressed ...
and this depression ... this depressive anguish ... it triplicated ...
Most of the time I knew I was dreaming, but it was such a real dream ...
very real ... I could see there ... my body ...
and there were times when I wanted to return to it, I wanted to wake up and I could not.
Then the time was going by ... there were times when I needed to take medicine to sleep ...
I woke up crying ... with my father at my side ...
these sensations ... were very heavy sensations ...
during my recovery.
Psychologically and emotionally.
It was no good. Many new sensations ... for which I was not prepared ...
as they began to happen
and if I could erase those negative sensations from my mind I would erase them.
But they were part of my life by then ...
and I had to learn how to deal with it ... to deal with it.
With the great ease of internet,
I could not move but I had the possibility of having a lap top ... next to me ...
and I started researching about it.
While I was researching I was recovering ... my recovery was very fast ...
thank God ... because the medical doctors told me it would take me six months to walk again ...
and that later I would have to do another surgery in the hip ...
and that I would have sequels ... anyway ...
in a few months I recovered ... I started to ride a wheelchair ...
to walk on crutches ... I did physiotherapy ...
no further surgery was needed.
I did the physiotherapy ... and finally ... I started walking normally.
It was in June that the accident happened ...
and by the end of the year I was well recovered ...
and I had practically returned to my normal life.
What about the impact on your life ... beyond what you've already told ... ?
At first many friends came to see me ...
many friends ... I had many colleagues, with whom I used to leave ...
it was a very large group.
At first It was like this ... but gradually this began to decline.
It declined because ... I was no longer the same person ...
I got more ... I got more inside of myself.
I wanted to know more of myself ... so I ... I became more homely ...
I began to rethink many things in my life.
So it was really as a cold shower.
I've come to rethink many things in my life ... really.
And I always ... I always felt that place inside me.
So ... it was a feeling that was killing me.
What was killing me was this: not to be able to I can not go back to that place.
Did you feel ...
One person [who also went through an NDE] said it was as if the door did not close ... totally ...
Do you still feel any connection with that place?
But not only of remembrance ... a real connection ... a contact ...?
Real.
Do you feel? Do they talk to you? Do you see people? Do you listen? How's that?
Look ... this is very complicated to talk about ...
because when you say "see people", when you say "hear people" ...
this can be interpreted in different ways, that you are crazy, that you are having hallucinations ...
As I told you ...
this place came with me.
So ... some people who were there ... actually ... somehow they talked to me.
Do they talk to you even here in this world?
I ask this to you ... because ... some people say that.
There is one person who says that during a meeting, suddenly when he is a little tense
he feels like a hand ... on his shoulder ... soothing him.
I am here in the role of the one who sees nothing ... does not feel anything ... and in a certain way dies of envy ...
of this knowledge.
So we try, through you, who went through this experience ... to learn something.
But I also understand you being careful when speaking.
Speak till the limit that allows you to feel comfortable with.
To take care when speaking ... but answering your question,
indeed ... they talk to us ... if we can say that this is to talk ... because it's not talking ...
in fact they are tuning exchanges ...
You do not have to make gestures ...
You do not have to look to your side ...
You do not have to see ... you know ...
that they are there ...
you feel...
You hear inside your mind ...
and ... if you're lucky you can ... you can ... see the figure.
The way they interact ... even here ...
is it in the sense of guiding you in some specific situation?
Yes ... sometimes ... for example ... when ...
people often say
you know...sometimes people think they are situations of prophecy ... that sort of thing ...
but ... not often ...
It happens that you are talking to a person, with a friend ...
and suddenly it seems like you know the right answer to give, understand?
they give you that right answer, at the right time, at the right moment ...
You know what you're going to answer.
Do you feel that you have come back modified in terms of the ability to live, to feel the next ...?
Did you ... begin to feel any kind of premonition or to have the ability of feeling the feelings of others ...?
Have your senses been outcropped?
Did anything change?
Yes.
Yes.
Everything in my life has changed ... as I had already told you.
An example that happened that was very significant ...
to mention a concrete example ...
happened once when I was in front of the computer ...
I was seeing a social network from a friend of mine ...
friend of college, whom I had not seen for a long time
I was looking at her page ... I noticed that she had married ...
and suddenly it came to my mind... an image ...
of this ... friend of mine ...
and there was a lady behind her ...
placing her hand on my fried's belly.
And ... this lady had her hands ... it was a light ...
being placed in her womb.
It popped into my mind from out of nowhere when I was in front of the computer.
Then I wanted to tell her what I had seen.
And I told ... [instead,] I told her what I had dreamed ... and I explained the dream.
And she did not answer me.
So I thought, "man, I screwed up ... I screwed up."
Some time later, she contacted me.
She found out she was pregnant ...
she had become pregnant ...
[she told me] that they were trying to get pregnant for quite a while ... and they were not succeeding...
and when I sent that message to her,
she was not sure yet ...
she was not sure yet if she was pregnant...
When she took the test, when she could take the test and it was confirmed [the pregnancy] ...
she put the result on the social midia, saying ... "we finally got ..."
Then, at this very moment, she answered me ...
she apologized and said ...
"Aleandro, I'm sorry ... I did not answer back at that moment
because when you told me that...
those words touched a sensitive part of me ...
I did not know yet [if I was pregnant].
Now I understand that what you told me was about it.
This situation surprised me.
And then?
Life resumed ...?
Life resumed ... I started working ...
but ... there was something missing ... some explanation ... for that.
I didn't have any answer yet ... why had all this happened ...
I came back with so many questions.
many questions.
I wanted something concrete.
I wanted something concrete ... really.
And I started to study.
Then I started to study and I found a ...
I thought, "This is something that must have happened to me when I was a child ..."
"something must have happened [before] ... so that all this could happen because ... there is no explanation."
"Something ... there's something else there."
"I need more answers."
Then I found a therapist ...
I thought I should do a therapy with a professional who could help me ...
because I was beginning to get disturbed ...
there was a lot going on at the same time ...
I really needed a professional help.
And I found a therapist ...
She's from Goiânia [name of the city].
I live in Anápolis and I found this therapist in Goiânia.
I made an appointment with her on the phone ... I did not tell anyone else ... I did not tell my parents ... and I went to see her.
I went to Goiânia ... and there ... I told her the whole story from beginning to end ...
what had happened to me during the coma ...
during the EQM ... and everything else ...
then she said that I should make a regression to see what had happened.
Did you know she worked with regression?
Yes ... I already knew that she worked with regression.
Because I wanted to go back to that moment, I really wanted to know what had happened to me ...
[I wanted] to remember concretely what had happened to me.
So... you sought a therapist who were used to work in a specific area where you could make the regression ...?
Yes... in this specific area ... because I did not want just to do therapy ...
It was not just a therapy ... that's why I did not find it in my city.
If I wanted to do a normal therapy I could find great professionals here.
You wanted to know ... throughout your life ... through a regression ...
if something had happened that could explain all this that happened?
that could explain to me if I had already gone to this place before ... what had happened ... the reason of this.
Then she thought it would take about ten more sections ...
so she could really understand what was happening.
And I agreed with that.
So I booked to return the following week ... and I went there ... already to begin the procedure.
So we started the procedure.
I remember that in her room there was a table,
and in front of it there was a kind of armchair that could turn into a bed.
Was regression done by hypnosis?
Was regression done by hypnosis?
That was her differential ... that was her differential ...
because I wanted to feel that moment ... I wanted to remember what was happening at that moment.
On her website ...
I saw that she did a kind of hypnosis in which the person stays conscious all the time.
The person would be able to be deeply induced but staying conscious all the time,
unlike ordinary hypnosis, and that was her differential.
And that's what I wanted ...
I really wanted to know if it could be creation of my mind or if I could have really experienced that.
So ... on the second appointment we started the procedure ...
she put on a very slow song ... very relaxing ...
and with a few words, which I do not remember now, she managed to induce me to a light sleep.
As I told you, I already had the facility of ...
I started to have the facility of ... having these lucid dreams ...
of seeing me out of the body, after the accident.
So ... it happened ... in a snap.
I was induced ... again ...
she is a great professional ... this induction made me feel very light, very relaxed ...
And then ... I saw myself ... again out of the body ...
but this time it was different ... I was ...
I spoke and the voice came out of my physical body.
She asked the questions and I could answer what she was asking.
Was it as if there had been an expansion of your consciousness?
We can say that.
Then she asked me and I said, "I'm watching me lying down ... I'm watching you ..."
Then ... suddenly ... that light came up again.
Same light.
But... the feeling ... of freedom that I ...
that I felt that day ...
the only day I felt this before ...
It was the day of the surgery ...
the sensation of total freedom.
It was the same situation ... I saw myself lying down, I saw myself from above, from the ceiling ...
it was almost the same feeling I had felt in my accident.
Repeating: the same sensation of freedom you felt when you left the body during the accident [surgery]...
you did feel in the procedure with the doctor?
I do not know if you remember that I said that when I was at home,
when I left [the body] the feeling was not very good ... it was bad ... it was anguish.
This day [during hipnosis] I did not have that [bad, anguished] feeling.
I felt peace, lightness.
And it was then that she asked me, "and now, what do you see?"
When she asked me that, I began to feel ... the same things ...
and the light ... came before me and began to involve me.
and that feeling of peace ... and everything else... involve me... again.
Did you go back to that place?
When the light engulfed me, and it was strong, a very strong flash came ...
it was as if I had practically gone blind for a few seconds ...
and when I was able to recover my vision,
then I saw that I had returned to that place.
But in another plane ... somewhere else.
Not in that exact place where my grandfather ... where I was with my grandfather.
I knew I was in that place ... but in another environment.
But I knew I was in that place ... I saw the people ... distant ...
When I felt I had gone back to that place,
the therapist asked me where I was and I said:
"doctor, I went back to the same place ... where I was after the accident" ...
And she asked me, "Are you seeing anyone?"
and I said, "Yes, I see some people."
[she asked:] "And what are you feeling?"
[I replied:] "I'm feeling someone is coming."
Feeling what?
And someone was really coming.
She did ask you what you were feeling ... and what did you say? I did not hear your voice.
She asked me ... "What are you feeling?"
And I said, "Doc, I'm feeling somebody's coming."
"And it's someone I know."
"Someone I know."
And suddenly I noticed that that person was getting closer ...
and when that person got close to me, I was sure,
just as it happened when I met my grandfather, that I knew that person.
The only difference was that I did not know where or when, but I was sure that I knew that person.
A little later I came to realize that that person I was seeing was the same young woman I had seen ...
right after I woke up from the coma ... the first time ...
or I thought I had waken up ...
A redheaded young woman ...
light-skinned
Who told you to calm down ... to be calm ...
Who told me to calm down.
When the therapist asked me how was this young woman ...
I described her ... and that's exactly when I came to realize that she was the same young woman from before.
Then this young woman explained to me that she had known me for a long time, since before I was born ...
that she was always with me ...
and as she was speaking, that feeling that I knew her was increasing ...
as well as the sense of peace ... and familiarity ...
Was she your ancestor?
I do not know...
if she was an ancestor ...
At that moment I did not know.
Did she say her name?
Yes ... yes ... she said her name ...
She said, "You can call me whatever you want ..."
"but if you prefer, you can call me ..."
And then she told me the name.
Would you rather not to say her name?
I'd rather not to say it so that it doesn't turn into something folkloric.
Did she tell you what her role was with you?
Do you remember that I said that in that place ...
if you wanted to go into the past ...
or live the present ...
or go to the future ... if you wanted you could do it with the greatest ease,
well... it was at that moment that this materialized.
That's when she told me ...
that she would show me and I would be able to understand ...
what had happened to me ... and what was happening to me at that moment.
Then she touched me [on the shoulder] ...
And then I ... I started to ... travel ...
I really traveled.
I've been to several ... lives I've lived ...
I went to several lives that I lived ... and I managed to understand many things ...
The greatest happiness I felt was due to the fact that in some of these [lives] I have been able to see my parents.
I'm even thrilled because ...
because I actually managed
to be in different times ... having different bodies ...
When you're living this ...
Because you live it!
You are living it... you feel hot ... you feel cold ... you feel pain ...
you feel the time you die ... you feel the time you are born ...
you feel everything.
During the regression?
During this regression.
That was the differential.
In two of my lives ...
I had the same parents of now ...
I could see in these characters, my parents.
There is this very strong saying: the eyes are the window of the soul.
Many people asked me, some friends of mine asked me: "But how could you know that?"
Even the therapist asked me this when I told her.
She asked me, "But how do you know they are your parents?"
[and I replied:] "doctor ... it is through their eyes ..." "
When you look into the eyes of these characters, you know who is who.
You know.
Your consciousness, your soul ... I do not know ...
knows who the person is.
It's a very strong feeling ... so I knew who my father was ... I knew who my mother was ...
I knew ... I was able to notice the presence, the important presence of some great friends of mine ...
who are very close friends today.
These are people who live together with me today ...
[I saw them] in different times, in different places, in different situations ...
and you can see all this ...
in an orderly manner...
you begin to understand how what happened at that time ...
has to do with what happened in your life here ...
with facts that happened here today.
Did you feel a connection between incarnations?
Yes.
As if it were a great story with different chapters?
As if they were different chapters ...
and that were repeated ... in phases of my life here.
of child, of adolescent ... and adult.
Do you remember, Carlos ...
when I told you that ... that I did not want to return ...
but that I had the feeling that I had something unfinished ...?
Yes.
And there was something unfinished ... there was something unfinished ... with my family ... with me ...
with myself and with my parents.
But it was not something like "you have to do this ... you have to do that."
No.
I knew I had to live ... something ... with them.
And from that moment, when I went back to those existences, to those experiences ...
in which I lived those remarkable situations ...
of death ... of treason ... of everything you can imagine ...
Excuse me ... what you are talking about ... is it about the experiences [you had] ... during the regressions?
Yes ... during the regressions.
I'm very much in the dark about it ...
can you ... in a way that is comfortable for you ...
explain a little more what you saw in these lives?
If you think you should not ... okay ...
- but it's only because I'm a little bit lost ... - I can speak.
For example ... in one of these existences ... I ...
I remember that I was fourteen years old and ...
my mother...
my mother died very early
I was aware that this was in England ...
this existence was in the 19th century ...
and I remember that my mother had passed away very early ...
My mother had passed away very early ... and I had two older brothers ...
and one of these brothers...
They were a sister and a brother ... older than me ...
the one that was my sister is a friend of mine today.
I was aware that she was this friend of mine.
Today we are good friends ... she is married ... I am very much a friend of hers.
I was aware of it [at that time] and I told her that.
I was the youngest one.
I was very close to my mother... at that time
in England, when I was this character...
I was very attached to my mother and when she died I was very young.
And my father was very authoritarian at the time.
He was very authoritarian.
So ... after my mother passed away ... I suffered a lot ... because of my father's authoritarian way ...
I remember that shortly after my mother passed away ... my brothers got married ... they left home ...
and I lived only me and my father ...
there was ... I think a lady ... who took care ...
And ... I remember that I lived ... I was very ...
My father started going out a lot.
He went out frequently and I stayed very alone ...
And I kept growing ... growing ... and becoming a very ... depressed teenager ...
My life had no meaning.
Until a moment when I no longer wanted to live.
and ... suddenly, I lost the will to live and did not want to eat anymore.
I remember I got very sick...
really very sick...
I was about 13, 14 years old...
I'm sorry I'm telling you this in such a concrete way,
but it's because I really knew, I knew my age ... and everything ...
I was around 13, 14 years old and I practically ended up losing my life for not having the will to live.
My father even brought a doctor home but it was too late.
So that showed me a lot about my mom's relationship with my dad ... today ...
symbolically.
This, that really happened in that life ...
symbolically meant a lot to me today.
I came to have a stronger relationship ... with them ... after that.
I was able to understand some differences that I had with them here today ... and that came from that time
It's as if I had a wound...
Do you know when you got a wound and it is beginning to form a bark?
But if we check inside, it's still bruised.
The feeling is that I took off the bark and stuck my finger in ...
I had to poke and clean this wound ...
Looks like I got this wound cleaned.
In going through it, it seems like I've freed myself.
During the regression did you feel you have experienced how many lives?
Apparently more than two ...
even more ... it was four or five ... six, as far as I can remember.
But in all of them were you the son of the same parents?
No... no.
Only in... only in the two last ones.
The two last ones...
not in the others.
Did you feel you were born in different parts of the world?
Yes ... in various places in the world ... incredible as it may seem, my friend Carlos.
Several places in the world.
And you were always a man or were you a woman, were you always white ...?
Woman...
man...
slave...
prostitute... killer...
husband who beaten the wife ...
You talking about it makes it difficult for me to imagine the whole story.
I'm seeing several chapters and I'm thinking:
"Wow, how can I connect these chapters to learn from this?"
I know there are things to learn.
I wanted you to help me understand that.
One of the chapters I told was in England ... in the 19th century, and I was the son of the same parents ...
fIt was one of the earlier lives in which I remember they were my parents.
Another [experience] that I had and that was very strong ...
happened with ... happened with ... with that redhead woman ...
She told me we had a very strong connection ...
that she had known me since before I was born ...
but until then I didn't know.
In one of these lives...
I remember that when I begin to feel it [the life]...
I saw myself on a horse ... already telling you the experience.
I saw myself on a horse...
Actually I had one ... the word that is used is ... reminiscence ...
because ... I was really ... feeling that.
I was not seeing [it] ... I was not outside of me ...
I was really ... there...assuming that ... that body ... that character.
The strangest thing was that when the doctor said, "Aleandro, look at you, see yourself."
I could see what my arms were like ...
I could see what I had ... I could feel ... how I was ...
[when the doctor said:] and your face?
I could ... I could see how I was physically...
As I described this to the therapist ... the moment I was feeling ...
I saw myself on a horse ... and I ... and I saw that I had very strong arms ... they were very strong.
And I remember that I had a weapon in my hand and I remember that I had a dead animal ...
on the horse's back.
Eu estava com uma roupa muito forte feita de pele de animal...
I was going down a mountain ...
a mountain...
It was very cold ... the mountain was ...
I was on a mountain with a lot of snow and as I was going down, the snow diminished ...
and I remember approaching a village ...
I was arriving in the village ... and this village was like this:
when I arrived in this village ... I had the notion that I had gone hunting ...
and when I came back... then...
In this village it was like this ... it was a community in which ... everyone who hunted ...
I'm telling you this because at that moment I had this notion ...
the notion that I hunted ... and before I take it to my house ...
I had to leave 70% of what I hunted ... for the community.
So, as soon as you entered [the community], you would pass by a house ...
where all the hunters, when they arrive ...
they leave this food ... and I had this notion ...
and I left ... there that dead animal ... they took away the part that belonged to the whole community ...
because everything you hunted was divided between you and the community ... it was really a community.
I remember I took a piece ... to my house ...
but my house was a little way out of this ... village ...
and when I arrived [at my house] ... I was on a horse ... riding a horse ...
I saw that redheaded girl.
When I got off the horse, she came ... and ...
I saw her from afar ... next to her were two twin sons ...
they were two boys ... two little boys I think about 5 years old.
Were you a couple?
Yes... we were a couple...
in one of these [existences] ... I'm telling you the strongest one ...
the strongest one.
So ... we were a couple and these kids came to hug me ...
and I remember that I was so strong that I would take one with one arm and the other with the other arm...
They were two twins ... two boys ... and I was very strong.
Then time passed and I remember that I was already asleep ...
Everyone slept together ... there was no room, no separation.
As it was very cold, the huts were made with animal hide ... to protect from the cold ...
there was a lot of hide, a lot of stuff
I remember we all slept together, me, my wife, and the kids.
Then ... I remember that in the middle of the night I heard a noise ...
a very strong noise...
screams...
I remember that I had an ax ... I took that ax ... that was always with me ...
I took the ax and when I left I saw that the village was on fire.
I heard screams.
So I told her [the readhead young woman] to get the kids ...
and go with them through a path ... because I would go to the village to see what was happening there...
and soon I would meet them.
I knew we already had set a specific path to this kind of situation...
if anything happened ... she already knew where to go.
It was a kind of escape route already drawn.
When I got there...
I saw some soldiers ... soldiers who were killing everyone.
Killing everyone...
the only people they sometimes didn't kill were ... women and children ...
that they tried not to kill ... but when they killed ... they killed.
I remember that I killed many people.
I killed many of them [soldiers] ...
I've been able to help ... many of those people.
In this community, I had the feeling that when this happened ...
we saved as many people as possible ...
then everyone would spread ... and meet again later.
I remember that when I realized that there was nothing else to do ...
I came back ... to meet my companion and the children.
But when I came back ...
two of these soldiers had already captured ... they had already captured my companion and the children.
Then she saw me ... she saw that I was coming ... and one of the soldiers noticed that I was behind.
Then that soldier sent the other soldier to take them ... and he came back.
And I remember that we went into combat.
We started to fight.
We started to fight ... and as I was already very hurt, he hit me and I fell to the ground.
When I fell to the ground, I remember just looking ...
When I looked ... over there ... my gaze crossed with hers ...
and at that moment it seemed that I knew I would not see her again.
It was a parting look
It was a strong thing ... it's the last thing I remember.
Then I remember ... that he hit me ... he stuck a sword ... a sword ... here ...
he took the sword ... he stuck his sword here ... and cut it to the end.
Then I remembered my accident.
because I have a scar here ... from the chest ... until ... the end.
The cut he did with the sword did it look like the cut of the surgery?
It's in the same place ... it's in the same place ...
although the scar that the medical doctors left ... was perfect ...
the doctors were ... capricious ... with me ...
But it was the same place ... it was the same thing.
Where would all this have happened ... and how much time ago?
It was about the first century after Christ ...
I think it was in the first century after Christ ...
It was when ... I remember that we were ...
I was a barbarian ...
I was ... I was ... very red ... well bearded ... very strong ...
and that soldiers, from what I saw ...
were Roman centurions.
We were invading their land ...
and they were trying to fend off the people who were trying to invade their land.
That was my deduction.
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