When was Palestine created and who created it?
Ashraf Bethlehem
I think Palestine was created in the days of the Canaanites
but me as a Palestinian youth
as a 28 year old youth
I became aware of Palestine
during the time of Abu Amar, Yasser Arafat
he was the one who planted the seed of love
in our hearts for Palestine
You can say he is our leader
In the ancient times, who were the rulers then?
How long ago?
2000 years ago
3000 years ago
Canaanite times
Before or during?
Anything before 1948
Somebody said "Jordan"
Before that
England
Before
Before England
Turkish people
I don't understand what you mean exactly
do you mean in terms of the mandates
No, way before, in Canaanite times who were the Canaanite rulers of Palestine?
I don't really know the names I don't remember
Was there a capital?
The capital exists
in our hearts
but the map, the borders
excuse me, it's all just ink on paper
the capital since the times of Salah al Din
the caliphate
since the Crusaders
it's been Jerusalem
Was there a flag back then?
No
I don't think so
Who established Palestine?
Ali Bethlehem
Palestine or the Palestinian revolution?
First Palestine and then the revolution
Palestine was established long ago since the time of the Prophets
even before the Prophets
it was founded since the Canaanites
It was called Palestine?
Yes
What was the capital of ancient Palestine?
The capital of ancient Palestine is what we call Jerusalem
Who were the ancient rulers the kings of Palestine?
I don't know, to be honest
Was there a Palestinian currency?
Yes, there was a Palestinian currency
When?
During the British Mandate
What was the flag?
It's been the same flag ever since
Does he know when it started
We know we have had the Palestinian flag
since the Palestinian revolution
Which was when?
In the 1950s
Nahala Bethlehem
It's difficult
When?
Just guess. You don't have to know...
When do you think Palestine was founded, created?
Many years ago, thousands of years
What was the capital of ancient Palestine?
It was Jerusalem and still is
Who were the rulers, the kings of Palestine?
The king of Palestine
Or ruler
Was there? I don't know
I don't know
Was there a Palestinian currency?
Yes
Geneh (pound)
It's called Geneh (pound)
When was that?
You want a certain time? I don't know
100 years ago? 1000 years ago?
I think 100 years ago...
It was many countries not Palestine
4-5 countries
Which countries?
Jordan, Lebanon, Syria
Geneh? I will look it up (likely the Egyptian pound)
Was there a flag for Palestine?
In ancient times
In ancient times, I don't know
What was the flag, if there was a flag
and he was saying "no, there wasn't a flag"
According to our studies there was no flag
Abduallah Nablus
In the beginning, or before
it was "Balad al Sham", the Levant
a Canaanite land
A lot of civilizations like the Romans
and the capital used to be a city called Jebus
which is Jerusalem today
Do you know anything about the currency?
The currency used to be the Shekel
Like Shekel in English
When was that?
Maybe like 100 years ago
Do you know a year?
I don't remember
But I do remember it was ruled by the Ottoman
Palestine used to be the land of Canaan
Montaser Nablus
Before the occupation
Palestine had a currency which is the Palestinian pound
Before the occupation it was the Palestinian pound
I think the shekel used to be
the currency of the Canaanites
The shekel used to be their currency the Canaanites
Palestine did used to have a flag
If you go back to before 1948 there used to be a passport
There was a currency you can see the pictures
What about the ancient rulers, the ancient capital?
Who was the Sultan, ruler, king?
It was part of the Levant
I don't know who the rulers are
When and who established Palestine?
Mohammad Bethlehem
The Canaanites
The word "Palestine"
is a Canaanite word
Does he know what it means?
there is an island
that is 12 hours away from Athens
that is called Philis
Philistius
and that's where Palestinians came from
there are people who live there
who still have the same traditions as Palestinians
Are there any famous kings or leaders from that time?
from the Canaanites until 100 years ago
I don't know - I don't know either
What was the capital of Palestine then?
It was and still is, Jerusalem
Was there a flag?
There was one flag that united the Levant area
There was one flag that united them all
but then afterwards it was divided
and she said, after the first world war
the second world war
Do they know if there was a currency?
The Palestinian pound
That was in the 1920s under the British
Yes, 80 years ago
Was there something before that?
The Ottoman currency
Sana Nablus
History says it was the Canaanites
there are lots of stories about it
I tend to believe that
it was no one specific
It has always been a variety of people
It has always been
lots of cultures
have been in this land
lots of people, lots of thoughts
things that people tried to build here
Just the
now days people
who define the culture
When do you think the concept of Palestine was created?
I think it was always created
in any land, in any history
created when it's
occupied, when the first land was occupied
Meaning when people moved here
That was millions of years ago
But if we can call it now days
probably in 1919
1919
What happened then? - when the British came
and all these things started
and then people started to think differently - Yes
that's when people realized they have to fight
they have something that will be taken from them
that's when they started to fight
that's when they started the
revolutions
So what do you think in 1918 under the Ottomans or before that
what do you think people were thinking?
I think it was always
the years before that was a pressure built on people
the house demolitions
Under the Ottomans?
Yes, the political
I think the Ottomans were so bad
They were closer nothing could go in or out
They tried to be so closed
They say it's because they didn't want to lose any of their culture
or they did not want anything wierd
or different
to be in
but they have
obviously failed
obviously
and that's why...
Were there rulers, who were
I don't understand - Rulers
leaders of Palestinians
was it always the Ottoman or the Byzantines
The last Ottoman leader
No, not Ottoman leader a Palestinian leader
for Palestine
You cannot see a Palestinian leader
because there was only Yasser Arafat before
I don't believe in Yasser Arafat actually
I am not a person who is a supporter of his politics
or for his way or methods
I don't see him as a
hero
So you think it started with Arafat?
It started like this history says that
If that is our history then we are a big failure actually
because he sold us
that's my opinion
maybe he did not have a choice
In what sense did he sell you? just to clarify for the viewer
how do you not agree? in thirty seconds
I think that
if we need a hero, if we need a leader
then it's not the
maybe if I said my opinion it won't be a good thing
Meaning it's harsher than what Arafat said?
No, it's not just Arafat
It will be something people won't like to hear
Which people won't like to hear?
Every single Palestinian actually
I am not going to get you in trouble
I will maybe, that's why
I think the method the Palestinians are taking now
is the wrong thing that is happening
I think that every culture and every
nation
must be
scientific
and must get
to the point where they realize
only the pencil and paper will change
we are so far from the method of
stones and the method of bullet
the world has evolved
and obviously
the cities and the places that we see
good ones that made so far
they are taking this method
The people now, their technology
more ways of the stone so far more than this
Israeli people, I think they have realize this
they have moved from this
so we should too
if we want to make our case
then we should do this
we should be more
looking to the future - Yes, we should do that
we should be
cultured, educated
we should be more educated - informed
We should take care of this
this direction
move forward to this
not be violent
I think violence won't bring anything other than more violence
and that's what we don't need
We are actually not that strong
If we were that strong
then we would
Palestine would have been free since
forever
but it's not like this
When we realize this
it will be free
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