What's going on Trip Kramer here from www.trippadvice.com.
I'm doing a very exclusive and special interview with a new guy on the scene, at least new
for me, I haven't heard of him until very recently but he's got some really good content,
his name is John Anthony.
John Anthony lifestyle and you can check him out at his YouTube channel which is youtube.com/c/JohnAnthonylifestyle
but something tells me you can probably just do youTube.com/JohnAnthonylifestyle.
I think you need the c.
Do you need the C?
Can you throw in the chat just so people have it.
Yeah.
And I'm going to put this in the description below so if you're watching this later on
and you can just check out his channel below so why am I doing an interview with John Anthony
well he's intrigued me a lot because he has a claim, he has a special claim that he has
slept with over a thousand women which is quite a lot.
I'm only imagining a man who has slept with that many women have probably learned a thing
or two about what attraction is, what seduction and how to get a girl interested in him.
I've traded my life away the past decade has been eat, breathe and sleep the shit so yeah
I learned a few things . How old are you now?
35, I'll be 36 in October but I didn't get into the game until I was about 27 so I was
a little late starter but official game like reading the book the game and Mr Madison on
stuff but I've been going out ever since college regulated parties with that and I think leaving
college I've known about 17 chicks, so things have picked up a bit.
I'm curious what got you into this I mean for someone who has slept with a thousand
women even if you have that uncanny ability to be able to do that, that takes a lot of
time so you've dedicating like you said, you said 10 years that's a lot of time so this
must have been something that really triggered you to get this handled I'm curious what that
was.
Okay so I came from super reserved super introverted child play social anxiety and general anxiety
high school I didn't really even talk to many girls that's probably under 700 kids in
high school like straight up probably, the most shy guy in the whole high school.
I sat with like two other really smart guys, I just had like a natural like genetic intelligence
like a natural like genetic intelligence like natural being extremely analytical like very-very
hyper analytical so I was able to look at high school today trading stocks, I was winning
all these chess tournaments and college and moved on to play professional poker, I would
say placement classes in high school.
I ended up going to school for computer science and philosophy and I did two masters degrees
in human computer interaction and philosophy of cognitive science and then took the onset,
end up going to or almost went to law school and ended up working on nuclear missiles for
the us government for five years like if there's a nuclear balance but kind of a missile attack
on the us I analyze how do we optimize the speed of response time and accuracy of response.
It was mostly devoted to intellectual pursuits like the analyzation but I had all the social
anxiety and I sort of became more expert as I got out of college and one of my really
smart friends sort of end up doing like a PhD in quantum physics, he was like dude you
got to read this book called the game it's like it teaches you how to get girls and I
have no idea how to do it at that point, back the I was maybe like 23 or 24 and I was like
bullshit it sounds like a scam to most people to hear about that there can be like a method
to the madness or strategy that they could it sounds like a bunch of snake call or a
bunch of scamming stuff.
For like two years, I was like no way and he's like trust me they just give it a chance
and I was like no and then he got a book called the mystery method written by mystery from
the community and he's like got to read this one too and I remember there was one particular
night I was at the turning point where I had won like a really big poker tournament.
I won a whole bunch of money, took all my friends out to celebrate buying all these
drinks having a good time trying to talking about chicks and just got fucking destroy
the whole night and I was like dude I remember coming back home, this is like the turning
point I was saying to one of my friends not one of the smart ones but I was like dude
like that fucking suck, we need to learn that shit, we need to figure this out my buddy's
been recommending this book I'm going to read the fucking book.
I went to read the book the game and I was like oh my God right sure you've read the
book before ? Oh yeah of course.
Yeah-yeah.
I don't know anyone who hasn't I mean it's funny too because I always say to guys like
my story is no different than any other guys that's what got me in too that's what got
tens of thousands of guys into because no one was aware of the idea that you could learn
how to meet women and I think that book came out and was embedded into pop culture, it
was a bestseller, so all of a sudden the guys are like wait you can learn this stuff, this
is a thing right so yeah that's how it sounds, like you got a hold of it as well?
Yeah so it really was kind of like a big flip and I just treated it as another skill game
so I always advocate to my clients and I've always held the position this is just a skill
game, I look at it just like chess, just like poker just like if you're trying to get good
at professional sports I look at it as strategy and tactics and the way that I've kind of
evolved and optimize the method over the years and I can go into that later but it's basically
been find the best guys at this and always trying to be finding guys that are better
than me in any area.
If guys are better than me talking to girls in the day or at night time or with texting
or with retaining the girls or it's going on dates or any other aspect of the game,
I sit down with them you know befriend them of course not just leech off them but in exchange,
we're both doing… trying to figure out what it is that makes the system work better for
the particular area and then adapt accordingly after testing it against what I'm doing and
basically this is like a scientific method.
And I'm also always analyzing the whole system looking for weak spots and some of the most
spots and also trying to figure out what are the big things that make the results happen
at the end and how can I treat those things to make them produce more results.
I had the system really solid by around that's when I had my first hundred that was June
2012, I hit a hundred lady count and then actually started instructor assisting for
real social dynamics RSD in the second half of 2012 and I just really saw their system
is too abstract and to who and I didn't really like there wasn't enough strategy and solid
focus on the things that I thought matter the most so I started my own company in 2013
but I didn't really get serious about my YouTube until about a month ago because I had so much
business from word of mouth referrals cuz guys it took my programs got really good really
fast usually on the first night of training so I just had plenty of guys to train and
I did it as a hobby at first and then I quit working in the tech industry background in
2014.
I've been having an extra time definitely helps a lot too because I can go on dates
during the day with girls that are in college that you know don't have full time jobs and
stuff like that, so there's more opportunities for dates and closes in basically a typical
day in the past years was either on a date with the girl I was already seeing, texting
to set up new or out of the bars and clubs meeting more girls or using tender or something
like that.
It's like almost all the time I was part of the game for better or worse.
I mean a thousand is a lot so that means you've approached thousands and thousands of women,
that means you've had thousands of conversations.
I haven't tracked approaches but I do know like in my phone currently around December
of last year I had over contacts so my close rate it's about percent of the phone numbers
am getting.
You would say then that it's a bit of a numbers game.
Oh yeah for sure yeah like volume has to be a part of this but skill is a big part of
this too but I think one of the big misconceptions in the community is that gorgeous, and what
guys trying to learn to give to women as I think that most girls they talk to are like
them, most girls they get a phone number we'll meet up but I've talked to a lot of other
top guys, I don't know if you can confirm these stats if you believe you kept track
of these stats or not but 10% percent seems to be you know With the top guys are doing
in terms of bringing a phone number to a sex encounter.
You're saying that numbers one out of will end up be someone having sex with.
Yes.
I'd say I mean I don't know for sure I would say that's about right you know what I mean,
it's almost all relative too I mean like there's a guy there who has barely done this before
and he's doing five percent so that means he's doing one out of I would say that's pretty
good too.
Yeah.
But I guess I don't know, I haven't really kept track of it so.
It's sounds low like it even sounds a little bit because I'm like wait like a lot of times
we go to grow should ask me to take her home you know I don't need to do like approaches
all night or like most dates I have, I can get the girl to come back and hook up but
if you really think about it though like two a week to start comparing numbers, two a week
times fifty-two that's a hundred a year there's not many guys doing that look at all of the
tough guys, there's not many guys doing that consistently and we're all meeting a lot more
than two girls a week before going out a few nights a week and doing some tinder and bumble
the occasional day game approach during the time.
You know if you're meeting 40-50 girls in a week and you can close two or three of those
or even like 30 girls you can close three of those that really starts to add up over
time.
It took me 11 years to the first hundred like 11 years after losing my virginity, now I'm
talking about a hundred a year and I've made some key tweaks and did a 143 in 2015 and
then we will get into all that I love it when I talk like this, I think I just sound like
a huge asshole.
Why do you say that?
People like oh you're objectify, the thing is like the girls that I date know that I
formed a very close connection with these girls I don't just treat them like a number
like I don't objectify since I talk about these things in terms of stats or in terms
of like a lot of my games are very systematic just how I view poker and chess not like robotic
but there's high level flows to what's happening so like you're still being yourself and the
whole thing's dynamic but there is auto high level flows and structure and rules that apply.
And when I talk about things like that people think I'm like looking at it very callously
and mathematically but I always try to make sure people are aware and are differentiating
the process from you know their interactions with girls, I get pretty close to all the
girls I'm seeing regularly, we treat each other like boyfriend girlfriend without the
label almost all the time for the rotation girls.
Yeah when I talk about like oh, I'm doing a hundred year, two hundred a year, it just
sounds a little off putting sometimes to people.
How do you feel about it?
I don't think it's off putting I mean I'm not really just like going for numbers like
that's like I think like.
Are you sure because I think you are?
No-no it is funny you know like there's plenty of chances that I have to go on new dates
where I will see girls like right now I'm pulling there's like 16 regular girls and
that's a lot of work on its own but I'll prioritize them over going on new dates, so
I am not even going on many new dates that often, I think the high number comes as a
by Parts of skill and I also keep the quality really high so if I have an opportunity to
close or get with a girl you know like six and a half to seven range or whatever a lot
of times, I'll pass that up or if I'm talking to a girl and she gets to drink from the bar
or whatever like you know hit me up later during the week there's a lot of opportunities
where I pass up on stuff that I could get the number higher and I talk about that in
my videos where it's not just like this cold hard thing going for numbers a lot of times
I'll spend a Friday or Saturday with like one of my favorite girls that I'm seeing regularly
when I could go out and meet 15 more girls or whatever.
I think that comes as a by part skill like granted not having a nine to five helps a
lot too.
Do you think do you think that a high leg count should be a goal for guys.
No, I think they should have like their own personal goals whether that maybe but I think
that they're going to need to get the guys use the term like batting average like a good
probability of whatever stranger they talk to they should get that skill Pretty well
and that usually comes as a product of more experience and more volume.
I just got an email from the clients a few weeks ago he said that he started selling
my stuff when he had been with around 12 girls about 14 months later even about a hundred
and fifteen and then he had like this perfect full package girlfriend and you like dropped
out of the game for now and he's like I'm totally happy with this girl now but he could
have just said in the beginning like alright I'm just going to get that girl now because
he wasn't ready yet like he needed to like kind of work his way up, you can't just like
jumped to the top and you don't have the presence and the value and the charisma and all that
stuff that comes through the experience of dating a bunch of girls, and I think a lot
of guys in my program and they haven't been with many girls no I only want to sleep with
a girl of nine on this program and I'm like yeah that won't be all, you're going to
have to like work your way up to that.
The first time I was around a nine on the date I was like terrified you might be able
to relate, it's hard to just you know.
Yeah, you're not used to hanging out with girls who are really attractive.
Yeah.
You get you know as nervous as you are to maybe approach them now you're and eight of
them were consistently sleeping with them whatever it is and so yeah you're trying to
get over that as well you know, so yeah I do agree in that aspect, whatever your goal
is even if it is something that's a long term relationship you do need to have some skills
on the your value, need to be going out and going on a lot of dates, I mean just to get
good at being able to interact with women and also trying to find out what kind of woman
you want to you know that is kind of like what your goal is.
Exactly.
What do you think the biggest lessons are from sleeping with over a thousand women just
like a couple of your biggest ones, like something that really sticks out?
I would say in terms of like the process of getting them and I found the biggest thing
in the whole system in the whole process is working leads correctly which first the phone
numbers so like the management of setting up dates like taking phone numbers you get
from night time interactions, day time interactions, online gaming attractions and setting up those
dates that's I think the key to actually getting those girls to meet up doing that properly
but other stuff I've learned is I don't know I've just seen so many instances of cheating
and lying and stuff like that I mean guys do that stuff too but I don't know you kind
of get a little bit jaded after seeing enough of that stuff where.
You are saying like the woman that you've slept with are cheating on their boyfriends
sometimes?
I mean you see enough of girls cheating on their boyfriends or husbands or just you know
being involve as a coach and a being friends with guys that are sleeping with a bunch of
girls are doing this you know to get better, you just hear about so much stuff and see
so much stuff where it's I don't know it's hard to find a good… like we are not living
in eastern Europe and the girls are lot more… have more traditional values and so with that,
I think a lot of girls in the Western cultures have you know for better or worse or definitely
I think for worse but I have kind of drifted more towards this, like that's respecting
kind of more slutty more kind of sleeping around girl she's like constant trying to
trade up you know, so it's tougher these days to be in a monogamous relationship and have
faith in a girl, whereas these girls a lot of these girls in eastern Europe that doesn't
even cross their mind they are just focus on you and they have like this you know this
familiar structure and value stuff going on in their mind.
Well this is interesting so I'm imagining if you had all these experiences I'm wondering
if you had any conversations with some of these women that have been cheating or what
did you say… dating up I'm wondering if they've said anything to you or maybe why
like anything or more specifically if they've said anything about they're dating up or
their current boyfriend or husband or something like that, like do you have any insight there
of maybe why that's is happening?
Yeah a lot of the girls that are cheating their dude just thought I'd tell you enough
that all the time she's like a stable provider kind of guy or he's like a rock in their life
and it is paying for some of their stuff or whatever but he doesn't bring that up for
the table, he doesn't have like the proper confidence and charisma and you know so they
kind of want to date… they're usually trying to gravitate towards the bad boy guy that's
you know going to have sex with them better and it's going to give them more highs and
lows and better experiences and it's going to be growing up their ass and text them all
day and stuff like that but yeah I mean that's like probably the most negative answer I could
have given in terms of what I've learned.
I mean whatever stuck out apparently, I mean let's be honest sometimes the negative stuff
as more of a presence in our mind than the positive.
Yeah I think more positive notice is like just I may have lived in a whole bunch of
different countries now two all over the world and this is the stuff doesn't get boring like
meeting new girls doesn't get boring, each girl is like a new fun experience for me like
they have different personalities different interests you know different types of stuff
they like to do and so for me and I just like having rotations because they are like a harem
of regular girls is that it might be like one girl is like shy and wants to talk intellectual
stuff, another girl that wants to go out and party and go to like different festivals and
stuff and there's girls that you know want to have like sit-down romantic dinners and
they all have different personality types, body types and that keeps the whole thing
really interesting.
Living in different cultures and experiencing different girls personalities and different
body types that to me beats like just settling for okay this is the body type I have now
for a year, five years or for life and like one personality can get predictable and boring
you know and then I don't know on both sides are thinking that people start having wondering
eyes and I just think monogamous is pretty unrealistic especially with all the social
media and some of this going on today there is just temptation and people are getting
people to too often stuff without us I don't know I'm happy with is having one or two main
chicks I really like and then a bunch of you know side partners usually between five and
ten or right now it's a little bit higher.
With all these results they've gotten what do you think it is that makes the biggest
difference like why do some guys get good and some don't?
I think the guys there are looking at the wrong stuff and I think a lot of the advice
out there on dating it's pretty bad it's either incorrect advice or various of optimal in
some way, a lot of guys giving the advice aren't getting really good result for themselves
like when I claimed a thousand playing, I've been stellar reporting it in a number of different
ways for years but I have others like countless they call it field reports the community work
with other advanced guys have detailed spending months of me and the results that they seem
to get personally.
The hidden camera and field footage I have like over a hundred instances from start to
finish taking a girl home I recorded that for like a whole year going out five nights
a week I had a… my old Instagram which is now shut down I posted like different goals
in a row um so I actually post the proof of this stuff I have like what I would consider
more proof than most people in the industry or anyone that I found so and people that
know me know that I take the… not that it really counts or anything but it's a good
objective measure of skill so a lot of the other coaches, like I know a lot of coaches
that haven't even slept with 10 girls yet.
Hold on we're getting off topic here we got to get back to the question what is that like
some of these guys to learn something from you right and get some value here so what
do you think makes the biggest difference like why do some guys get good and why others
don't what is it.
Okay yes so that's fine the biggest things a lot of people are following the wrong guy
this is a lot of blind in the forums and in the channels and stuff like that you know
people that are not getting results themselves giving advice to other people so that's number
one.
Number two people you know a lot of guys would prefer to just be like theory junkies and
watch a bunch of videos and they're not going to take any action but I think the blind and
the blinder is really the huge I mean corporate cuz a lot of guys that I know but in terms
of time and effort in some cases money buying products or they're getting live training
but it's not helping the muscle times it's like sending them back and as they go through
months and years without particular coach or a variety of coaches that aren't helping
them they'll keep buying more coach and keep taking more live trainings like a lot of guys
that come to me and say I've taken 11 programs of real social dynamics live programs and
I don't know what to do in a nightclub like in terms of talking to the girl, they don't
have a clue after 11 live programs.
How can a guy become aware of that because of course now they can I guess because they're
hearing you say it, so there's an awareness now but how do you know, how do you know if
you're not getting the right information, how do you know if you're not giving the results
that you should be getting in a specific amount of time you know how do you figure that out.
Yeah see I think the promise is that a lot of these companies that are mostly in guys
and giving incorrect principles and suboptimal principles they have really good marketing
and a lot of them are lying about the results there's been a bunch of cases with them faking
in camera stuff and so guys don't know and it's hard for a guy, like a guy like me that
is just existed through referrals for most of the year like I haven't blown up a huge
following on YouTube, that's what I'm focusing on this year but I would say just in terms
of, without having to research the whole industry if you're not sleeping with you know at least
two or three new girls every month or two like something's got to change like get these
guys I don't know you guys are doing like seven nights out and never getting like a
new chick in their life and they will every once in a while but it's usually due to luck
and not skill.
It'll be like a drunk or lost her friends and like maybe isn't that attractive and
they're like in the right place at the right time and they are like oh the game is working
you know it's like no it's not so I mean you see like one percent of the guys that do this
do you think from experience are getting like good to a sufficient degree whether like happy
with the results if you had.
It's hard low, I think a lot of this stuff that we teach I think a lot of the videos
in my channel become more entertainment for guys than anything it's really fun to watch
them it's fun to get the advice it's even it's like you get this cozy feeling inside
that there is an answer.
Yeah.
You see the potential of getting the results and sometimes that feels good enough for guys
to have it's like the same ideas like you buy a book at the store how many times have
you bought a book and you just have to have it.
It sits there.
It sits there but you really wanted to buy the book and you got excited about the book
and it felt good but then all of a sudden you just haven't read it I know I've done
that plenty of times a lot of books I haven't read You know, so I think a lot of guys end
up getting excited by the idea of getting results but then when it comes down to it
they realize it's a lot of work and not every guy, not every person is cut out to do a lot
of work.
It's true.
When I first started this I was going out I was like you, I was going out three to four
times a week, there was a period where I go out every night for like three weeks at a
time I would do that a few times a year and it was hard work, I really enjoyed it though
I don't know maybe there's people out there who I enjoyed it because I like the challenge
of like okay I'm going to go out I'm going to get better at this, it was like the idea
of going to the gym you know like okay I'm going to go and gain muscle, lose weight,
whatever it is you know.
I'll just say I think it's about trying to find the fun in it when you know when I
coach guys and I helped them out and I give them exercises to do and approaches to do
if we're doing like phone coaching I try to remind them like don't make this a thing where
you're just like oh I can't…
I got to do the homework I've got to go on a project try to make it fun for yourself,
try they find the entertainment for yourself in this in the process of it.
Hmmm-hmmm.
I'm curious what do you think the most common reason is for people who do fail or give up
you know it's like guys are going out there, they are trying this, they actually let's
say reading the buck right or doing the coaching or taking the program or watching the YouTube
videos but then they fail or they just stop what do you think it is.
Like that goes back again a lot of times they are just like they're following the wrong
people but the other big thing is they have unrealistic expectations so I'm putting out
that real stuff that I got sucked over a thousand girls I'm getting a ten percent close rate
so that sounds really low but guys are expecting almost like a hundred percent success rate
with this like I have seen with a lot of the guys that I've coached and stuff like this
is that when negative rejection so to speak, the girl doesn't want to talk to them whatever
you want to call it like a negative reaction they will take it personally like okay like
I'm not good enough or there's something wrong with me you know I'm a loser or something
like this and what I try to teach you guys is like you're not going to take almost all
the girls you talk to, you are not going to get most of the girls you talk to on dates.
Instead of expecting every girl to like you and when we get to intervene mindsets, internal
mindsets I tell guys you should assume that every girl will like you when you talk to
her that you really have here before you approach, before you go in but you shouldn't expect
every girl like there's plenty of girls that have boyfriends that aren't going to cheat,
there's plenty of girls that just aren't in the mood to talk to anyone and the really
pretty ones, they're constantly being approached by low value guys have no idea what to do
what to say and so even when a cool guy comes along they are just going to kind of brush
them off all the time they're going to ignore him or they're going to give him a totally
negative reaction just because they can't entertain this endless stream of nice guy
approaching.
I told guys have like realistic expectations and then after that it is finding the right
coach finding a guy that really is getting good results which there's not many of us
and just soak up the stuff like the stuff I'm putting on my channel I really kind of
crank it up and putting out 16 videos a week and I'm doing it in camera breakdowns from
start to finish and I'll break it down is that what I'm doing what I'm saying so guys
can copy that.
I'm going through key certain things I'm doing that guys can replicate like I have a video
on how to set up dates straight to your house so you don't even need to get them for a drink
or coffee that you can just I get them exact text I use to get them to show up at the House
or I say like here's what you do once you get to go back to your House so there's no
more guesswork there or like here's exactly what I'm doing and saying to take a girl home
in five minutes and so guys can copy the stuff and I get emails all the time where guys are
like just from the free YouTube stuff, the products go much deeper but just from the
free YouTube stuff guys are like wow like I wasn't getting any results before and now
I'm getting tons of results so I try to keep the quality really high in terms of the
content that I'm putting out and I just weigh up to the production the past month
I think that's what caught your attention how did you see my channel I'm just curious?
I think one of the video just came up on the site and I just checked it out and I didn't
see what you're doing and I just thought It was interesting.
For like I just started a channel like maybe a year and a half ago even though I've been
in this for like a decade, like I said with the referral stuff I never really needed to
go you know get out there and just make a bunch of content cuz I want people to take
my stuff for getting good and then they would tell their friends etcetera but yeah in the
past month I just after hitting a thousand at the end of last year I was like I really
need to get this in front of a lot more people to get a lot of really good testimonials coming
in and guys were like dude you single handedly changed my life like you know I look at everything
differently now, like I have all these options now with girls and I just heard that one of
the guys in the I was like I need to 2019 is where I'm gonna take YouTube seriously
that they're just putting out more consistent content in terms of six days a week and then
up in the production and I have another beer now that makes everything look pretty and
that's probably why it was recommended to you because now it's starting gain traction.
Yeah I'm curious too because you say you have a lot of videos coming out
one of the things that guys struggle with the most is keeping an interaction going.
It's like they'll ditch out pretty fast or they won't know what to say things like that. Do you talk
about in your channel? Maybe you can share some tips with us for the guys because
guys really want to learn how to be able to keep the interaction going so curious to
hear what you have to say about that.
Yeah that's one of the questions I get asked the most from clients so the first condition
that I give is don't make it a big deal like don't see the chick as like some special thing
where you need to like have these perfect responses, so I tell guys like when you're
interacting with your close friends are you ever wondering like what should I say next
what should I do next what if I run out of things to say no you're just flow naturally
with your friends so I told guys to speak to women even hot women the same way they
would speak to their close friends but just incorporating more flirting and sexuality
like you're not going to you know you're not going to make sexual remarks to your guy friend
but if you are maybe you should be in a different place but you know don't make it a big deal
so that way when you're in the interaction it's not guys are trying to do too much micromanagement
they're like what does she think of how I'm acting, what should I say next you know what
if I fuck up, how good is this going so far all these things and that kind of you know
manifest itself and freezing them up and they look unsure of themselves and they look not
not comfortable.
So just talk to the girl like you would talk to anyone that you are close friends with
and then the other piece is have a bunch of go to topics so I talk about my products I
talk about just a whole bunch of go to things so I'll talk about…
I'll ask a girl what is your ethnicity, I'll even ask those like typical interview
questions that a lot of coaches don't ask like I'll her like what area do you live
in, what do you do for work oh cool I did this for work, I'll talk about different experiences
I've had with traveling just whatever comes to mind so I always tell guys like whatever
comes to mind speak about that but always be steering things kind of the direction where
you're going to try to take her home or you're going to try to set up a date.
So I don't encourage guys to have these conversations that lead to nowhere like some
guys will talk for like thirty minutes, sixty minutes and a half and then they kind of like
stall out and the girls is like have a good night but they never really had any focus
or structure of how to move things forward so you know I mean if they are just speaking
to people like they would with their close friend and then having a bunch of go to topics
then everything kind of flows from there.
Okay cool yeah, I like that, I give some advice to win it when it comes to talking to women
like they're your friend right it's like guys don't have any confidence issues or nervousness
or anxiety when they're talking to their friends or their family.
It's like how can you how can you bring out that energy or how can you call back to what
it's like to have conversation in those terms and bring that into the conversation with
women you know so it's kind of like a new mindset I like that.
My last question here is you know things have changed from five ten fifteen, thirty years
ago, how do you get good at meeting women in 2019 and how do you think it's changed
in the last five years.
I think online has gotten a lot more popular, I think like five years ago Tinder was you
know starting to come out but they refined it and popularized it a lot more, so I think
Tinder is a lot better resource of leads than it used to be and if you look at someone like
Casanova like the famous cities or Casanova he says in his memoirs he slept with like
a hundred and forty-three different girls he didn't have a cell phone, he wasn't able
to work all this is phone numbers properly so I think like being able to work your phone
numbers properly to get meet up is that's like the bread and butter of the closing.
If you're able to acquire you know to phone numbers through a combination of bars and
clubs, tinder and bumble and then your daytime approaching that you might do in passing and
then you're able to work those into like four or five days each week and you get good at
running the date and closing the date like it's just like a funnel basically and then
that just churns out a whole bunch of new regular hot girls in your life and then you
can keep around the ones that you like.
I think there's too much emphasis by a lot of coaches on you have to take her on the
same night, you have to take her home the same day you meet her and you know I like
I know how to do that really well and I teach guys how to do that but that's only one rule
of the whole night where it said the rest of the time you're going to be getting a
phone number and I think a lot of guys don't work their phone numbers properly and they
fall through the cracks so that a lot of these conversations and leads that they have are
turning into nothing and they're going cold overtime too so they need to go on a Saturday
for instance after that week's gone by and they haven't gotten a girl to go on a date,
then the number is in large part Not very useful at that point and so they go get more
numbers but there's just like this number collection leading to nowhere so I really
focused in…
I have a second product called the police machine that came out January first of this
year it's www.sex leadmachine.com and it is literally like the result of all my evolution,
optimization of my text from level of ten year period, so I just get flow charts of
every possible control paths that can happen and every possible rejection that can come
up and the exact optimal responses to give to each one so that you can get to meet up
with the highest probability which is all that matters on a date but in terms of other
things that have changed you know there's I don't even do Instagram or snapchat game,
like I have zero closes off Instagram and snapchat I just never really went that route
but I think a lot of guys are focusing too much on that stuff they're trying to you know
build up like this amazing Instagram and they're honestly working stuff and there's not much
bang for the buck there I don't know what you found with Instagram or snapchat but guys
are kind of like riding these trends and putting their focus in the wrong places.
Yeah, I think it all that stuff is just a waste of time you know a lot of guys asked
me questions about how do you dm a girl, how do you get to meet up after Instagram it's
like It's going to be really hard that's my answer, why are you trying to make it super
hard on yourself.
Yeah.
Unless you have some crazy influence and you have thousands and tens of thousands of followers
but even so what you're doing is you're not if you're trying to focus on that which we're
not doing is spending time meeting women in person where the attraction really happens
and where the skillset makes the most difference because eventually you're going to be with
them anyways in person so I just think yeah all that, all the new tech stuff it's just
a waste of time including apps I mean apps are a good way to meet women, I know a lot
of guys get great results from it but I just think that you can do so much more for yourself
skill wise if you focus on meeting women in person and not you know going along with the
technological trends that are happening.
Yeah, I don't know if guys are focused on the fundamentals this, I told you guys that
don't worry about all this other stuff get the fundamentals down and you know get good
at meeting a girl in real life, in the daytime and nighttime and then you can go from there
and build on it.
Cool awesome well this concludes our video John Anthony from youtube.com/c/JohnAnthonylifestyle
which I'll put down in the description thanks man thanks for being here.
I appreciate it.
I was a little curious to just like interview you and hear your thoughts and I know you're
a new guy in the scene in terms of social media, however we know you're not that new
because you've been around for a while and you've been instructing with different companies
and things like that but yeah man it was cool getting to know you and doing this so thanks
for being here.
I appreciate it.
And guys if you are interested in what he has to say, you like what he had to say today
uh go in the description again and check out his YouTube channel there, thanks man.
Yeah thanks a lot, alright take care guys.
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