welcome back to the danger zone I'm here with Frank beifuss hey Helen
yep and we're out for another walk and talk I don't know one of my favorite
places you Talley Park as you can see there's a little rain coming down look
if you're listening you may be able to hear it let's stop and give them a
listen oh yeah it's starting to come down now
of course as soon as we start walking it comes down luckily I got some
water-resistant equipment here and we're gonna keep rolling with it I actually
like the rain how much yeah I don't mind it I don't mind it at all
especially it's been hot as hell around here lately and I've been just getting
burnt up so taking a little break to splash around it doesn't sound so bad so
Frank is a CC teeth what uh give us a little background okay so the short
strokes on it CT is a combat controller we're part of the Air Force Special
Operations and we're we're ground we're ground troops that support
typically will support other soft elements and will act as their matches
or JTACs so we're controlling and D conflicting fire support as well as is
our platforms pretty much the main piece is to be a middle man like a conduit of
information so I'm taking all the information I can get from the aircraft
above the team I'm translating it down for the team leader so he knows what's
going on on the ground or from the air perspective and I'm doing that in
Reverse as well so taking off since I'm forward with the team you know I'm
taking all the ground information and distilling it to what's important to
the aircraft to give them context okay yeah because that is a big that is a big
difference what what we see from here I've been doing a lot of drone flying
lately yeah and it is a big difference could actually like everything just
looks completely different from a grounds eye view - yeah a bird's eye
view especially and you know we're we're it's a check and balance list right
because the aircraft might see something we don't see but we might also I've had
aircrafts or pilots you know lock onto something because they're really they're
really locked on and they're like hey I see a suspicious activity going on here
but so it gets meat you know and get your spun up but then you investigate it
further and talk to the other people on the ground you find out man that's your
that's your local police or something like that doing something so you know
they might see guys with weapons doing something suspicious but really they're
setting up a checkpoint for you so you're it's check and balance and it's
I'll tell you what from being in gunfights where we needed air until I
get out of that bad situations having a CCTV or JTAC has been an absolute game
changer I didn't actually you know getting the right you know permissions
to draw up and people that are friendly with supporting that because I mean it
we've had I've had a British pilot didn't like was the conscience adapter
we had all the clearances and you know she decided not to drop and yeah and and
sometimes you run into that with a you know hesitant pilot and sometimes they
might be right - you know so sometimes you're amped up because you're in the
thick of it and sometimes it's good to have that person who's just a little
removed you can say hey hold on but you know at the end of the day it's
typically the guys on the ground lives at stake so real quick I like pointing
this out we were just like surrounded by neighborhoods and everything else can
like now you hear the birds and everything
it's pretty wild is it yes it's not like a huge national partner thing but this
is like right in the middle of Colorado Springs yeah you take a couple steps
over hill and you're just in a wilderness it's wonderful it's like
being up in Boulder like I was pretty cool to just go and hike in those hills
but oh so I would be I probably I might catch some heat if I didn't also mention
but without sticking too long on stuff combat control has another focus that's
really how we originated that's what I was going to talk about which is you
know doing a steer assault zone work yeah or assaults when reconnaissance
work so it's finding places to set up drop zones or you know dirt dirt runway
is controlling controlling the air traffic and the you know just kind of be
in the the information center and the control center for austere operation so
basically being able to set up like a dirt Airport in the middle of Africa
somewhere and like be able to run planes in and out of it like yeah and of course
there's a you know a bunch of other my new shin facets to the job you know
things you can find yourself doing but broad strokes those are the two main
focuses you've got the survey and air traffic control piece in non-permissive
or into your environment and then you have the JTAG piece so controlling and d
conflicting fire support yeah so what's what's cool about CC T's is they're
similar to sark's which we're throwing around a lot of acronyms now so those
that you don't know but speciality B's four constants Corman and later special
operations independent Duty corpsman is what I was which is special operations
medic and you're a CC T which stands for again just a combat controller yeah so
let you stands for combat control team is what you know so what's BCT but we're
mostly independent operators now what's cool about these two separate
communities have two completely different jobs yeah except the common
thread of being a gunfighter right is
sort of that free eight agent status like being there Sark's who are actually
attached to us some SEAL Teams now and there's like mainly there with recon and
Raiders but there is a like when you fall under SOCOM there's some room to
end up doing other stuff like if somebody needs a body you're a qualified
soft medic tetanus you really quick so you could go like a child Oh Marty she's
in you could end up with some other units and CC T's you guys I mean that's
your main your main time is being attached to people right yeah and of
different from all across the board yeah I've it's been mean it's been a
really fun ride so for most of my purchase all my combat appointments I've
either supported it or been attached to just a plethora of different
organizations which can be really cool like damn I'm saying you know you're
coming in you're kind of a free agent so the ups to that you know you get to
see how a bunch of different organizations operate about to work with
for every SF group other than 10th and 20th yeah you know been attached to seal
platoons and supported 75th Rangers get to work with MARSOC so I've got to see
how a lot of people operate which is really cool you know to just kind of
move around and since you bring a specialty you end up doing a whole bunch
of different kinds of mission sets just providing you know providing your
expertise for your your specialized skill yeah now but there's always
there's always downs for the up so and it's really cool especially when
you're when you're you know new and young you're like oh you to work with
this group of people or this group of people whether they're us off or
coalition soft get to work with some coalition soft elements before the
Australians or Canadians or whoever and it's it's a really cool experience but
especially a like on our deployments our cycles don't necessarily match up with
our counterparts like so you end up depending on the length of your
deployment and you know you're moving around for need as well you might end up
on three different teams during a six months span that can be hard it's
definitely it's fun I mean you could just keep meeting new people making new
friends and that's awesome it can also suck if your honor a team of
guys you really click with you're like oh this is great and the next group just
personalities don't align and every single time you pretty much have to
prove yourself from Ground Zero so you'll almost always have at least
one guy who's to just just fuck you for no reason you know they're usually the
guy that nobody likes you and that's why they're fucking with you because trynna
they're trying to elevate themselves and yeah they don't have any room with the
team anymore so yeah you're the new guy that can try and flex on or whatever
exactly dumb shit so they're under that and for
the most part I've been pretty lucky and got just really cool teams that were
real open and like hey everyone do you work we're well into hat like you're one
of us now I can oh yeah which is awesome it's a great experience which I think
speaks to a couple of things and I have a lot of listeners who are thinking
about joining in the military looking at doing Special Operations they want to
possibly be a Sarek or CCT or a PJ and stuff in there's a lot that needs to be
considered before you choose one of those routes
because a lot of them are so different a lot of jobs within special operations
are very different yeah and they can be highly specialized
and if you're thinking about doing something like CCT or something like
that where you're gonna be sort of bringing an extra individual skill set
to a team that's like very vital and important being able to be flexible and
like have it be able to blend with with whatever yeah build it jump into a team
like you said having to change teams several times you know jump in and learn
how to create rapport with people quickly and like you know become part of
the group quickly is a valid skill set to to have and not sort of the you know
what we see online a lot of this is like sort of I would say fake bravado of like
well I'm a badass just because I'm Special Operations you know well you
still got to prove yourself every day yeah and I think you know and we you
know you talk about soft or Special Operations cuz like I don't I don't know
I don't really view myself as like fucking Rambo you know a lot of you
myself as which would which because I'm not you know I'm just a dude who's
learned this skill set and works at it you know but um dude play - dude yeah I
am but uh yeah I think it was on my first deployment one of the was what an
sf2 you told me like he said hey never never think that you're better stronger
smarter faster than conventional soldiers because you know you're not
probably you just have accepted a higher level of responsibility an earlier phase
in your career which is totally true dude it's totally true if you can kind
of remember like you just stay stay humble because the deeds that are like
if I can walk around they're super into themselves fucking
are usually are usually missing some key things yeah and I'm not there letting
that get in the way of some of their critical decision-making processes
mm-hmm yeah and I think we've we both those
have done the job have seen that type and know what we're talking about yeah
yeah then I think state staying humble that's that's uh no knowing when when
when and where to speak your mind like right yeah one of the things I kind of
live by well then was really I was still found a way to stay true to myself right
mm-hmm if I see something that's fucked up I'm gonna voice my my take on it
right yeah but if the team decides hey fuck what Dan said we're gonna do the
same list hey fuck yeah let's do this together like I didn't hold that against
the team I didn't like it was it was just like hey I I at least got my my
conviction out there right yeah and sometimes that's all you can do like you
know for example we're gonna go patrol over this area hey well guys maybe we
shouldn't do that cuz it's daylight maybe we shouldn't do it cuz it's ID to
fuck like can we figure out a different way to like affect this area and you
know then they'd be like well we're doing that anyways so at that point I
think it's important to be able to shift gears and not just stay and you're like
rigid self and say well this is all fucked up and then like that's your
mindset during huh during the patrol but being able to switch and saying hey
let's make the fucking best of this yeah let's make this happen somehow and let's
let's fucking work together to come out through it and here's another outlook
I'm gonna rock this real quick dude yeah I'll get through the camera going the
other way
oh man birds chirping wonderful little insects or worms and stuff are starting
to come up to the surface here that little bit of rain definitely here a lot
of birds we're gonna head over I'm gonna try and get us out on that little castle
deal right right here then we'll sit down and talk there we're gonna try and
head over to that uh see that little rock outcropping uh-huh yeah that's the
cool little spot to chill sick so see ya it's because a lot a lot of people just
think of like what it takes physically like what are the physical requirements
to get into this job or that job and they're not thinking about the mindset
it takes to a push past a lot of the physical stuff or one just be good I
have the job once you're there it's not just about making it there
yeah it's about being a proficient just doing doing your best at what you want
to do and I think a lot of people they're not thinking oh I might go to
war like even even people going into our operations they're like they have some
weird weird can see view of it and it's like you got to realize that this this
shit is not Call of Duty it's fucking real fuck and and some people are get
your people are fucking getting killed on both sides yeah and and on that I
think this kid this gets back I was think about this it's not gonna go it's
gets back to your piece on humility because Wars not always fast pace to
know it was super long and super boring and it goes hand in hand with being
humble is not being complacent because once you once you get the kills
yeah once you get just super comfortable through routine and like I don't need to
check this out it's good that's where you start setting yourself up for
failure and yeah I think well I think we're even seeing in scientific studies
now that just like being comfortable in life is bad it's generally like you
should seek out it's how you stagnate discomfort wherever you can find it I
just want to point this out well I was mounting Viking with my brother up here
my family is still in Coral Springs well I ramped off this thing and I
totally frappe right right here it was a brutal brutal wipeout dude it was it's
so ugly jump I came off in that I didn't like have the whole concept like keeping
the front out so I just like came over that and it looked like you know was the
first jump I ever went over you're like I'm gonna shred some gnar I'm not ready
new mountain bike so I could ride it while I was out here like but it was his
mm-hm and I immediately broke it right here yeah yeah I think the more we can
I'm still trying to do that I'm still seeking out discomfort in life because I
think that's what what keeps it we're finding all these things in the brain
and the body like all these processes like require stress it's kind of like we
have a forest fire down in Durango right now and who would have thought like
that's part of the rebirthing process for a lot of like for Street stuff is
like it unlocks pinecones and other things too so we're a force can like
naturally regrow fires is a part of it but you know us as humans with we're
living comfort based lives where we can't have forest fires like killing
people you know it's tough and so we try and fight it and yeah just certain point
it's a balance right of matching our level of comfort with
the forest fire with the actual letting the natural process be but I think it
speaks to what you're talking about is if you find yourself getting comfortable
and complacent you got to start evaluating it's a good time to start
evaluating where you are in life like what do you need to do to sort of tweak
tweak that up for yourself yeah I think absolutely man no one went to say hey
hey I've done these these two three deployments or whatever I need to like I
may need to go to instructor belly or like do some work or do something
different because because I am getting I'm going out on patrol and I'm not I'm
just kind of fucking there yeah this thing you know it gets it just
becomes normal yeah yeah I think that the force
fire-starting rebirth is very yes very now I guess if just I don't know I think
I guess that's a good word a good way to live your life you know like sometimes
you just have to start over sometimes you just gotta start over so dogs got
Drive your Mazda Miata off a cliff yeah
and I think you're starting to touch on a little bit of the death and dying side
of getting like complacency kills and we were just talking about on the ride over
to the park a little bit about death and dying mm-hmm
and how a lot of people just aren't prepared for parts talking about it or
there's just sort of a tab booth people are you know obsessed with skulls like
you know how many different skull obsessions are out there I mean I have
tattoos of schools all over me you know and just so this is sort of like
fascination with it but I think when people are confronted with their reality
of it's very surprising of the things that are involved in yeah and I did a
podcast earlier you can go back and watch it I think is number 10 with
another medic where we talk about our first patients we lost and sort of like
the process we went through we both went through a very different process because
death affects everybody different and I think what's cool is you mentioned that
we were talking about podcasts and you're mentioning that a podcast that
you listen to actually kind of helped caught yeah it sort of like put some of
the pieces good you already had so you want to talk a little bit yeah so I've
had you know I got I've got a lot of thoughts or I had a lot of feelings on
death and how I kind of viewed it and how I viewed in the context of life in
the sense that the brevity of life kind of makes it a little more special right
and death is like a startling reminder of the gravity of our brevity here in
this in this world so but I don't think I had a good way to explain that or put
solidify that into words yeah and I was listening to Sam Harris his podcast and
he had a frank some I can't remember his last name right now I have to look it up
it was uh he's a guy who opened up a Buddhist Hospice the first boost hospice
in the US and had just a lot of experience with death Buddhist Hass
Hospice yeah but you know it's just how people go through the dying process and
help their families go through the dying process
with you know with some moniker of grace and dignity and also just understanding
you know trying to help them go peacefully and a lot of the points he
brought up ended up helping me really put into words how I felt about death
from the beginning from the being but how I had come to feel about death which
was very very helpful I let's do it right first I heard it it was not long
before my grandpa died of cancer gives them a couple months ago now and so when
I spoke to his funeral I think I was able to actually put
together put together something that well brief was impactful and meaningful
from our family who my grandpa's very Catholic but a lot of our families maybe
know only nominally religious if religious at all to include myself I'm
just yeah me you know full point eight years so hearing a lot of the same like
oh you're these scriptures or whatever it doesn't really provide any solace
right but I'd say say listening in that really they helped me put into
perspective my thoughts which are generally you know death reminds us that
we that we shouldn't just be comfortable you know and sedentary and not exploring
not trying not learning you got it you have to stay hungry for just life yeah
which ties right back into the being comfortable deal yeah like life is so
finite it is so short time when you look at
the whole span of human history especially which I mean we're finding
out now that the there's this researcher who says the Sphinx was made by an
earlier civilization than the Egyptians by like ten thousand years and it's seen
by actual rain erosion on on the Sphinx is like what it concedes the geologist
you know like you can see that basically the head is new it used to be what he
theorizes was like bull lion like people would have been obsessed with the Stars
back then and like Leo the constellation everything and that so so that's just
interesting those kind of discoveries were flying about in ancient history and
that people apparently there was a big wipeout session from like floods or they
think it was like a solar flare that caused like all this flooding on the
earth the the all the ice we're like an ice age and all the ice pulled back and
all this stuff and what I'm getting to is that if that is true about the Sphinx
being 10,000 years older Cleopatra is closer to the iPhone being made then the
actual stinks it's pretty mind-blowing which is kind of trippy yeah but it but
it just shows you that like just think of that span of time from Cleopatra to
the iPhone and our little piece in that is so finite yeah compared to the actual
people that may have made the this things 10,000 years before even the
Egyptians were you know so and the whole theory goes on to say that like
basically the quick Kate people went into cave dwelling or we're already cave
dwellers and those were the survivors that basically started the next like
civilization so they basically they'd become very advanced and then we're
wiped out apparently there was like lightning storms from all the from the
solar flare it causes like crazy lightning storms apparently it would be
like this whole storm would just be the rain every raindrop would be
lightning bolt so it's just like completely covering areas with like just
destroying everything anything above ground was just getting like completely
burned up and wiped out if they didn't drown in the floods or anything else so
it pushed people like in cave living and they basically had to restart that's
pretty wild but that's I mean it is kind of
interesting what one take a moment cuz this is an awesome view yeah you want to
just soak it in a little bit yeah this is this is awesome I like this part
we're in the middle of the Colorado Springs right now you know yeah it
doesn't feel like it now I did we're like it feels like we're in a park you
know like a big State Park or National Forest or something like that you still
see houses and some buildings out in distance there's one commercial building
or something over there but stop I know yeah it's super it's just cool you know
to have this in your backyard I think is nice yeah thought that's like what I
like that's what I like about a lot of the West man is you just look around
there's like oh there's a mountain over there or at least a bluff you know yeah
that's super cool well we can just sit here and chill and talk word there
thanks Steve oh I'll see you on set over down for a movie at 9:00 you see what
he's doing a podcast with Steve you all want to check that out a walk and talk
like this yeah I did so we wanted to talk a little bit about a space
exploration - yeah I mean it kinda gets into what we're talking about with just
being uncomfortable you know and then just out here in nature I think um I
like taking him geek out about geek out about space and I don't know no
physicist or anything but I found you know I I took a you know an astronomy
course was I guess the you know basics of the physics or astrophysics like you
know baseline stuff it was still just man it's just super fascinating to think
about that kind of stuff yeah I mean even it's just a conceptual level like
not not getting into the mathematics of everything but I think it's super
fascinating so just the idea of like finding new things out there and the
cosmos is so huge that it just provides just as endless world for exploration
yeah but I do it you know the earth still has tons of stuff to explore yeah
it does I mean what's the oceans on it like 5%
explore something that especially you just I mean even for your personal your
personal self getting out and exploring areas you haven't been you know there's
tons yeah but yeah the cirse notion see how the
oceans are like what we've we've only seen such a like fractional part of it
well yeah I can discoveries of all kinds of creatures and stuff I was reading an
article the other day about these marine biologists that have found this they
call it it's like the great white oasis or something like that where these great
white sharks are going way out into the ocean way away from where they thought
there'd be a lot of like life or feeding and they're you know they're studying
their patterns and they've they found this this area on the ocean that they
totally thought was just dead where they found out at the surface at the bottom
there's a massive amount of plant life where so then you'll fought them up
they've got a full ecosystem yeah it's so it's it's just and that that's recent
that's a recent you know discovery pictures of this it probably could
probably find I'm gonna look it over right now look I think it's something
great great white I think it's great way to waste this or something like that
but definitely definitely very interesting just coming up right away
but it's boys nerd out later yeah no do you believe in mad went on of
course I believe in mega funny you should ask
this special they did on that on like that was pretty convincing there's a
Megalodon movie coming out to you awesome yeah I saw that's all really
good be real I mean there's giant squids yeah you know if you blow up a miniature
squid to a giant squid think of the shark like yeah you know I mean and this
and shit like obviously I mean I can't say I like 100% believes I'm a little
Hans real but one super badass when Hans out there and as far as the undiscovered
world so ocean is it would I think it's it's tougher to say that
yeah something doesn't exist in there yeah like how the fuck do you know to
conclusion there's the massive squids that that are out there like why why
couldn't there be a shark that's I mean well huge infinitesimally small on the
in the ass you know when you think about the size of the ocean yeah like even
yeah even the sides that they say it is isn't like that crazy to think of it's
not like but it's not like there's a megachurch sized shark swimming around
like a school bus or two put together dude the way the sun's hitting on this
oh we got lightning now lightning little thunder you ready you
ready to ride the lightning on the podcast here wondering if we're in a bad
spot but I heard you know so no weathermen
what is it like did within five miles there we go I was a pretty long break
from the lightning and the Thunder that's beautiful yeah that's a ways way
I didn't count yeah it's it's a good way this is a good time to get the drone
struck by lightning the drone zone
yeah let's should we move down just a little bit so we're not like on the
precipice yeah maybe I don't know I mean I assume you how the higher up you are
yeah the more exposure of the lightning cool we can walk down here and go down
in the valley they're cool but anyways so back to now we're Megalodon what
space exploration I think again yes there are still a lot of ways we can
explore earth right now I think a lot of its in the ocean you know it depends on
what what kind of scale you're talking about mm-hmm like I've been doing a lot
of sailing and you know went up to Newport Rhode Island during the Volvo
Ocean Race up up there and that's an insane race those cross and the the
southern ocean and everything they lost to do this year just jumped on yeah and
it's like you mean you think like oh they take so many I got to tour some of
their boats which they're all made out of carbon fiber right so I've never seen
so much carbon fiber in my life and
they take all the safety precautions you could fuckin imagine you know and these
boats are so fast they actually can't sail them at the top
speed they're able to do just because it's like it's not safe like you just
can't sail a boat that fast I can't get that rat you still have people on it you
know yeah and so yeah so I think seeing that is like yeah there's still is sort
of uh you know a lot of people say there isn't a frontier in the world anymore
to a certain extent I think on land it's starting to get that way you know yeah
there's still a lot of stuff in Africa yeah there I was gonna there's an area
that is pretty well pretty much well left alone in Africa and it's because
there's a certain kind of fly there that bites you you die so yeah it's just you
know it's pitiable to humans yeah that kind of deters me from wanting to go to
Africa well I mean Africa is a massive continent it's not some pretty
incredible natural wonders after doing a Tropical Medicine course and realizing
that like every every bad disease that's on the planet it's basically in Africa
and it's like ten times worse the bugs that deliver them or like ten times
bigger and worse and you die and he died but yeah I mean I'm I think sometimes
when you're afraid of going to a place or sudden like holding you back a little
bit like maybe you learn too much or read I think sometimes you can read too
much about a place yeah I mean I think yeah I mean you can get especially if
you look at a macro of U of A for example you say Africa you know that's a
whole continent and in individual areas there's all kinds of things that can
kill you and you put that all together you're like oh my god it's fucking how
does anyone survive but when you stretched out over the massive continent
that it is so you realize okay well if you're in this tear you got to worry
about you know botflies or whatever in this area you don't worry about
sharks cuz you're like you know but it's not all jammed together uh-huh I think I
think I can put you to use a bit you want show up right here next yes tree
that struck by lightning oh poor shadowing just let's sit down
here this tree that was like definitely
all right
so yeah I think but something we're so so with all that being said mm-hmm
first off I wanted to say is I think if you start having those sort of macro of
ease like you're talking about where you're like oh I shouldn't go to this
area cuz I've learned too much about it dad I think that's almost a sign saying
you should go better yeah like it's almost like a way of saying hey you need
a you need to figure out you're free so go go go see it for yourself I did a
podcast with a buddy named Alex and that's what he that was sort of his
litmus test he's traveled all over the world mm-hmm it was basically like if he
felt bad about going somewhere he went there and then every time he was
surprised at like how welcoming the people were how well some of the time it
was and he had like these great experiences so I've kind of adapted that
from him it's like hey you know maybe I do need to go that's that's yeah the
universe is telling me about me having reservations about it you know I think
one of the one of the biggest things I've taken away from my travels we're
going to going to war and you have these you know ideas of how people are you
realize just how similar humans are like yeah you can look at least like huge
differences in cultures and in you know just genetic differences like I don't
I'm never going to worry about getting sickle-cell
but you'll sunburn sunburn crazy easy
and you know you think oh there's insurmountable cultural differences you
know but in reality the cultural differences are a pretty small part of
your day-to-day existence what do you do did you wake up do you feed yourself
cute yeah exactly you know this most of your life has just been existing and
that that brings a lot of commonality like it's like we just saw Anthony
Bourdain pass away apparently committed suicide and that was sudden he pointed
out is like food food it's just a common ground that you can it's yeah it's
instant rapport with people you're willing to eat their food you're willing
delight if you whip with them if you're willing to eat their food if you're
willing to listen to their music
and just experience you know whatever kind of ritual they have whatever it is
it's definitely it's a trust-building thing you know it's like oh yeah your
your word we're not really that different now that's why my favorite
things while traveling is trying food all over the world I mean I've gotten
real sick a few times yeah but you know I work I think it's totally worth it
Anthony Bourdain talked about that I mean he that's his show right yeah
traveling I'm try the food he said there's times where you know he looked
at the food and he knew it was old or you know very very questionable whether
there was a good idea and he said those are the times he decided to go ahead and
eat it were some of the most like greatest experiences followed I'm taking
that step in like basically the experiences you'll have outweigh any
amount of diary there yeah I think yeah absolutely
if foods also interesting cos does use a lot of history behind it to you I mean
the so my the best food I think I've ever had I mean I've eaten
it's just foods not always comparable it's like music sometimes where
you know Italian food and French food both awesome but they're different you
know and you can't necessarily say one's better than the other but I think the
most I've ever enjoyed trying new food and they had the most kind of was a
profound experience but most the most I've been able to experience at one time
of just something different now I'm used to it was in Peru oh wow yeah and you
know I was in I was in Peru a few times but just for flash-in-the-pan it comes
time like usually just one night in Lima and the hospitality a was incredible a
lot of these places I went but the food was just out of this world and so I
found I found out Peru's actually supposed to be like I think it's a say
it's number two behind Italy as far as the food as far as food countries go
yeah but um I thought it was number two behind Italy yeah it's like far is like
good food as far as yeah worldwide check out this little thing before uh you know
the pot legalization in Colorado there's something you had to do no one will ever
know we hide our weed here Wow yeah I like Peruvian food it's
incredible times I've had it I haven't been to Peru and there's a lot of
history behind Peruvian food which is kind of interesting to think about
because Peru is very culturally diverse like the u.s. is yeah or the US you know
I had a lot has a history of segregating whether systemically or naturally it's a
much bigger country people migrate to certain areas and then in those areas in
the US for a long time people kind of kept to themselves so like southern food
you know yeah yeah but in Peru there's a lot more
fusion that happened early on you know Peru started out there's the natives
which had an incredible access to different ingredients and spices and
stuff and the Spaniards came in and unfortunately wiped out a lot of the
natives yeah but they brought you know that as far as
the food history goes they brought their Spanish cuisine with
them and then later as they it became more of a Creole style as they brought
in African slaves right oh wow but once Peru emancipated their slaves
let's make as other American countries
want you no use they've wanted cheap labor so there's a lot of East Asian
immigrants from Thailand and China they came and to do to do work
yeah and they brought you know Thai foods very complex by itself plus the
you know the touch Chinese food Chinese flavors mixed with a Creole and then
with all the natural ingredients that Peru has like it's the birthplace of
like I think it's Paris Wow Beto's possibly like there's all kinds of stuff
that's original to Peru that we eat in everyday food now and
then the Shogun Wars popped up in Japan and that brought a whole wave of
Japanese immigrants to Peru and it's just all kind of like bunched together
right so it's much more it's much denser country but it also has has coasts as
mountains as pastures as jungle so it has all these areas to get ingredients
and all these people that are kind of that have become sort of homogenous and
themselves yeah they become Peruvian as opposed to now that there still isn't
you know diversity in Peru but it's it's much more mixed they say the US or
Canada or you know most other American countries so with that either food
became it became mixed that's what you get awesome things like ceviche it's
originally Peruvian it's just and then they have a you know
very food oriented culture right or very Hospital hospitality oriented similar to
Italy you know I remember I flew into who flew into Lima and we got in kind of
late and we're just looking for anywhere to eat right we get to hotel we're
looking for anywhere to eat we go out someone gives us the the hotel gives us
a recommendation we get there and bouncers not really having it he's like
we're closing we're like okay well sorry we'll head out well the host or the
maitre d or whatever sauce and ushered us in there's like oh no no no no don't
realize they status we're like the only customers in there so it's a pretty cool
experience we're like whoa we don't want to make a big deal like if you already
have something you know stuff that's made you know like you know leftover
soup or whatever we'll take but take anything we're not trying to make you
when I'm storming at the eleventh hour and make a big deal out of it but
they're like no so it was like is this your you just got to prove like yeah
he's got to Lima it's like yeah your first time is all of our first time yeah
be like oh well then you got try everything it was a good it was awesome
they ended up making all kind of shit we shared a family-style it was probably I
think to date the best meal I've ever had
really yeah that's awesome it was incredible and you know you feel feel
kind of bag is like the whole waitstaff stayed behind we're like you know we're
good but there's like just constant like do you want something here try this try
this that's me to human though sharing
experience right yeah sitting down a podcasting talking about life talking
about different experiences and sharing it with each other and like kudos to
them for doing that and like seems like it's a part of their culture mm-hmm but
I mean yeah if we can just find more ways to integrate that into our lives
just being hospitable of people and not so not so divided and putting up walls
where they don't necessarily need to be mm-hmm like being willing to talk to
people yeah instead of just like quick judging and like
you know I think one thing that help put it puts it in perspective for me is I
try to do the extreme case of how could I possibly get along with an enemy you
know and when I think about it the difference between me and say a member
of the Taliban is not to be not tuned like obviously I'm willing to go to war
with them and fight or die or kill them yeah but at the same time I realize that
the difference chance is probably like three five percent three maybe five
percent because think about it they were much better war fighters but yeah but
I'm saying it at the same time when it comes down to it if we were sitting
across at a dinner table when we didn't really talk like there's probably about
95% of the conversations we could have would not cause any hostility I agree
that's why I started wearing my Thor's hammer in country is for that exact
reason you're talking about and I think it was a respect before my anime deal it
was reading about the ancient Norse culture and when they would fight each
other even you know you'd be wearing a doors hammer on your chainmail I'd be
wearing a lot of mine and if I killed you you you died a good death how take
your Thor's hammer off your chainmail put it on mine so when we met in
Valhalla you would see it we'd recognize each other because of that you'd be like
hey that's my Thor's hammer and we'd be able to share drinks and like party
together basically and like the afterlife and to me that was such a cool
mindset to have when war is still much of a part of the human existence yeah
and if you can find any little sliver of light in there where you can have a
mutual respect for your enemy and understand them I think is it's key to
just your mentality of being able to deal with it afterwards the questions of
why why were there this is not like it doesn't matter the fact is we went to
war with each other and some of those guys met us on the battlefield and they
didn't you know they didn't make it off and some of our guys didn't and like
like he said if I was born in Afghanistan
probably be right there fighting fighting oil yeah you be and also you
got to think like for a lot of a lot of their fighters and a lot of them aren't
Afghans either they're foreign but they're there
the majority of them are there for money yeah because you know farming ain't
working out and the government's not paying on time you know so you try to be
a government soldier you don't get paid yeah eventually you're like well I have
this skill set I guess I'm gonna go where the money is
yeah so a lot of it is to see it's similar motivators now I obviously like
I find that that 5% the 10% of their ideology egregious enough that I'm very
willing to fight it you know you know the fundamentalism part you know I think
obviously why don't you be able to go to school oh you know there's a number of a
number of things that are just hard lines in the sand footing but but the
bare bones of them showing up to fight me like what kind of said I do think we
are the best war fighters on the planet mm-hmm do we fight war the best a lot of
that it comes down to politics and strategy so I think we do have the best
fighters now do we always utilize our fighters the best no but for them to be
brave enough to meet us on the battlefield I think is worthy of respect
yeah and if you don't respect your enemy it's a quick way to get fucked up box
completely or stainless it's completely understand their moves their motives
their capability that our capabilities you know the things that they're good at
their ingenuity if you don't respect it then yeah exactly it's and so now so a
lot of people you know see my Thor's hammer and they think it's a religious
thing it's really not it's it's more of a like sort of life guiding principle of
respecting others and then now you know I'm not I'm ready to fight in any moment
but I'm retired and I'm hosting a podcast hopefully I'm not in a war
situation right right now but it's it's a reminder of the same tenacity I took
into battle to like face my enemy it's how I need to go at life like we're
talking about earlier is just because I'm retired and out of
the military now it doesn't mean my life's over and I just need to relax and
yeah talk about the good old days it's perfect time to fuck day to find a new
thing yeah you know a new challenge and so that's that's why I wear it and it's
constant reminder of that and mine happens to be a fire starter and every
man should have the ability to make fire wherever he goes and I'm just hot enough
get some sticks and stuff and everything start smacking things together until it
happens but it's uh it's also like a symbolism of me carrying my fire with me
like the fire in my heart not to let it get extinguished or always be able to
light it back up so let's go I think it's good to have little little
reminders you know I've never been a very sentimental person I don't think
but yeah having like little little reminders it when you're dragging your
feet and you have your head down and you're just you're tired and you're in a
you're not motivate you're in a bad you know bad headspace to have something big
oh yeah you know whether it's a tattoo or a you know a metal or medallion or
you know whatever it is whatever your little thing is maybe it's a bracelet it
could be anything like okay I need to stop being a bitch
and just yeah well it's it's easy to get inside your own head you know and to
forget some of those things yeah when I'm out from the fucking bad migraine I
feel like you know I'm having trouble walking and shit like it's helpful to
remember that man I was in combat mm-hmm and that I did all those things for the
right reasons that didn't it be up here with the situation where I can't walk
very well when I'm having a migraine and it's okay and I can still be more badass
than that dude who brought me here yeah this point like I can still be better
than that man yeah and so yeah I think it is whatever your way of like
you know little reminders are getting out of your own head like ways you can
find to find that inner strength in yourself it's important but dude I want
to show you this natural bridge Odie's let's go before yeah we got it we got to
get moving yeah what are you Steve I
shouldn't have done squat sedated what do I want to do today I'll do back and
front squats for the first time in weeks dude we'll have to jump more into space
exploration on the next podcast cos there's so we didn't even like reach on
it but I think it is the next frontier like the wide open frontier its space
well yeah and with overpopulation issues and stuff like that I really think we do
need to come together and stuff start figuring out how to get get explore off
this planet Natural Bridge I think the other thing that's cool about space
exploration for me is like you know the Greeks they believed the gods were in
Olympus yeah right once you can climb Olympus and you see there's no gods
there you move on that faith dies you know and hence we get out there once
yeah once if that's if those are the heavens once you're out there like it's
like you're I think you should always try to be you should always try to kill
your gods yeah I can't remember who somebody was talking and they're like
referred to heaven and they like pointed and I'm like up why is not it's not a
real thing like the earth isn't flat spoiler alert sorry it just clued me
into what you're talking about is like Mount Olympus was there's an
insurmountable spot where obviously we haven't been able to be there so like
that's where the cars are up I've been up like I didn't see any heaven or
there's no sky Graham up there satellites to Mars in show like yeah
you've been passed up yeah like we've been up and around up and around
over there way over there I think it just it's it's not a knock on them I
mean you know some people just aren't I guess that that in tune to it or that
dad outside of their box and it's I don't necessarily see that as a bad
thing on that you know if they they want to believe up is heaven then you know
that's that's cool yeah why up there yeah but dude it's so
beautiful here and now I mean I kind of like that I got to show you this other
part of it too but we probably could have stayed up there and didn't been
fine that's just cool dude well dude Frank it's pleasure meeting
you dude yeah there's always make friends in
the craziest places that's fun that's I think it's important we just keep doing
it just kinda keep connecting hell yeah and sharing life together I definitely
uh and like me I'm sharing this little like peace of Colorado Springs that I've
I've been introduced to I want to share with as many people as possible because
yeah if you can find a little spot like this in your town in your city like how
awesome is this just to like be able to leave your house and be in the
wilderness like this and you're not living way out in the country no I mean
that's that's actually I live in Louisville Kentucky yeah and that's kind
of a cool thing about that it's like I've got I'm in the city like I've got
all the city stuff and but pretty quickly I could be in say Jefferson
Memorial Forest which is a pretty pretty cool Forest Preserve State Park and then
it's not as close but you know I've got Red River Gorge like an hour away which
is just awesome natural Gorge so it's just I really I really enjoy that I grew
up you know growing up in Chicago it was like you have to drive oh yeah always to
get to anything natural cool man well we're gonna end it
I don't know what that's saying there but thanks for joining us and we'll
catch you next time thanks for listening to me ramble
you
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