Hi everyone, welcome to the channel "AFTER ALL, WHAT ARE WE?"
In this last part of Neia's interview,
she tells us about gifts she had in childhood and that came back to her after the NDE ...
but modified ...
and she also tells us about the feeling that she had that ...
this NDE ... it's not that it just happened.
It was caused.
Shall we watch?
And throughout this research period ...
I sought to understand why these two worlds existed ... which I had already experienced.
Why did God create us?
Where am I supposed to live?
Here?
On Earth?
Or there... in that place?
The Bible says ... "there are many houses in my Father's house."
But ... do we really have to keep moving ... from time to time?
And what do we take along in our luggage?
Because ... I left with nothing.
Only with a ... a body that had no more weight.
And the other side of life exists for what?
I got many understandings in some religions.
In spiritism, for example, it is said that we need to go back ... to train ...
and come back to put into practice.
But I thought it kind of ... stupid ...
that place is so good ... why did they make me come back here again?
That does not make much sense.
[Spiritism] gave me answer to many questions ...
but I couldn't find... a perfect sense.
What if...
if I had to live here ... why did I go through that path?
Why did I need to feel that pain?
What did I need to understand through that NDE?
What was I supposed to do ... indeed?
One thing I knew for sure.
My ... relationship ... with God ... had gotten better.
My communication with God ... [had gotten better]
To feel ... to imagine ... that [life] does not end in that coffin ...
that no one will end ...
that It's not a "point" of 20 years ... or 30 .... or 100 years ...
How do you define God today?
A Being ... so much loving ...
A Being Who really ... a supreme Being Who really has a grandiose project for humanity.
I feel that we really are His best masterpiece.
So that strengthened your understanding?
Very... very much.
Researching, I began to understand why life for me is one way and for you it is another way ...
why someone is rich and someone is poor ...
why one is sick and the other is healthy ...
Going on ... in the day to day of your life ... did you have any other mystical experience?
Yes ... those gifts ...
of perceiving ... the invisible ...
the other side of life
were back.
You mean those gifts you had before the NDE ... and that were gone for a while ...
That's it.
Did they come back in the same way or in a different way?
In a different way ... I saw a lot of suffering.
Before or after?
Before, I also saw it, but ... after ... much more.
And more than that, more than seeing ...
I started to feel ...
because even when I did not see ...
I felt ... the energy ...
of this invisible being.
For example, in a situation like this one, where the two of us are here ...
in some moments ... I do not know why ...
I would begin to perceive you as having two bodies ...
yours, the body of Carlos ...
and the body of someone else ...
And ... what I felt about this someone ... he was not ... an angel.
He or she was someone who wanted to affect you.
Someone who wanted ...
somehow ...
that you were not happy.
Didn't you have this understanding before?
No.
No way.
For me ... what I saw ... or what I felt ...
made me despaired.
And did you see it as it were a person ... beside the real person?
It's not that I feel it all the time ... with everyone...
but... it is like this:
if I enter a place where there are 200 people ...
it's as if a radar does like this:
It's as if I had an antenna and ... and if I just ...
observe the place ...
that antenna will lead me to that person.
I'll get closer and closer to that person.
Because after this event [NDE] and after having more understanding ...
I use this in my favor.
What... before this event... would make me turn around and run ...
away from you,
after ... this experience ...
and with the possibility that I have of capturing these energies ...
and perceiving the interference ...
of spirits ... in people's lives ...
I ... I started thinking about how could I...
if I am the only one who feels it...
if I am the only one who notices it...
how could I help this person?
Because ... I prayed ... I knew how to pray ...
At first I did not know how to understand this ...
but after all that I've lived ...
in that postmortem situation I could no longer deny ...
I could not do as my own family ...
and say there is nothing ...
after you die.
Yes, there is.
But why is there this interference so great while we are alive?
And this interference that I felt in people's lives ...
with spirits interfering negatively in people's lives ...
It could also have been what had happened to me.
an interference back there ...
in that pain...
in that problem that made me ... know ...
and seek ... and study ...
and improve my way of understanding ...
to be able to use it in this life ...
because if I had been practically forced to return ...
because ... they sent me back because I could not go to that place at that moment ...
so... it's because I had things to do here.
At first I thought ... it's because I have a small daughter ...
I need to make her a good human being and leave her...
here on this Earth ...
so that I can go away calmly because I did my job.
But as we live ...
and as we perceive God ...
in an ever stronger way ... more concrete ... and with more understanding ...
we begin to realize ... that it is not only here ... around us,
it is not only here around our navel...
that we need to take care of.
We do not have a mission or missions that are related only to us ... or only to ours.
I had a perception that most people didn't have ...
but I also had had an experience that most people ...
at least never commented on me about also having had it.
I continued ... deepening and throwing myself into the spiritual life more and more ...
to understand all this and to find out what it would be best for me to do.
What the universe ... what God expected of me ...?
What should I do?
I still had questions about my own life ...
Why was my life the way it was ...
Why wasn't it lighter ...?
Today our planet is in a great dead-lock ... in many aspects.
I, as a physicist, know that.
Taking everything into account ... your experience ... the state of the planet ... the state of humanity ...
what is your message to people?
People need ...
to hurry up...
to deepen faster ...
in understanding ...
life...
the value of this planet ...
because...
for me it was very clear the experience I had.
Although I knew that place ...
although I knew that that place was wonderful ...
the perfume was... an indescribable perfume ...
the colors...
everything there was indescribable but I knew that place ...
I knew what it was like to live there ...
even though... I was sure ...
that after being greeted ... I was only going to be received there ... and then I would be led ... to another place.
It was as if someone wanted to remind me ...
"Look... what a wonderful place ..."
"this place needs to exist for everyone."
"you know it ..."
"you know ... you've been here ..."
"but you will not stay here ..."
I would not stay there even if my death had been consummated at that moment.
It was not where I was going to live.
Because I understood that I did not deserve to live in that place again.
Do you understand?
I would still need another address ...
to continue to understand things...
or maybe reminding ... things ... good things ...
related to a good human being that I had once been ...
and that I hadn't been at another time.
So I'm pretty sure I was going to be greeted at that location ...
I was going to remember moments when I lived there ...
and then would be taken to another location ...
to continue learning.
As I didn't go to the end ... of this route ...
I had to come back here to finish my job ...
to complete what I could do ... as a child of God ... so that I could improve as a better person ...
to improve everything that is around me ... to give my contribution ... being responsable ...
and then ... to go for a new journey.
And today I would tell you that maybe ... maybe ...
maybe when I leave this life maybe I have ... maybe ... I may go back to live in that place.
And I can tell you that that place is not the pinnacle.
I believe there are others ... even ... better and superior.
you have just said that ... "that other sites may exist" ...
are you talking about other dimensions ... of other levels of reality?
Yes.
We see this being told in many reports.
And my experience, the one I just told you, makes me sure of it.
as Catholic ... in the Bible it is written ... "in my Father's house there are many houses".
Are they all good? All wonderful?
Do we all, when we leave here deserve to be in the same situation?
You talk about God, you talk about religions ... then I ask ...
do you consider that this near-death experience you had ... was a religious experience?
Not at all.
No way.
The religion ... whatever it is ...
it serves to give a notion ...
about other peoples, in other times, who had their experiences...
holy men inhabited this land ...
they left things for humanity to follow.
then the sacred books are used to tell a story.
It's like we study geography, Portuguese, English ...
They serve to tell you that.
But ... each of us has the own inner knowledge.
Because I'm sure I've lived many lives.
Some people after returning from an NDE said that...
some kind of relationship continued to exist ...
a relationship with this level of reality.
One of these people said it was as if the door had been ajar ...
and another said it's like something that has always been there ...
but that had not been noticed before...
Did this... somehow... happen to you?
Yes...
yes...
When that person says it's as if it's always been there ...
that means ... it was within reach ... it is within our reach ... of anyone ...
and sometimes we need to have that push ...
to realize that this door is ajar ...
to realize that there is the other side of life.
Regarding time ...
Did you feel time differently? ... in this other level of existence?
Faster ... slower ... or ...?
I felt that... there... things are not done in the rush we have here.
Regarding everything that happened to me within an hour ...
I would say that in our time it would have taken a few days.
And with respect to space ... your vision...
of course ... it is not with these eyes that you saw ... whatever it was to see ...
but the sensation ... of peripheral vision ... the type of vision ...
did you notice any kind of difference ... anything to comment on that?
It's as if your eyes do not stop seeing ...
it is infinite
it's far ...
the space was distant ... it must be, right?
One person commented that she did not have to turn around to see behind.
No.
- Does that make sense to you? - That's how it is.
Yes ... it makes perfect sense.
Just as I did not have to see the person to know who I was talking to.
Just as I did not have to see the lips moving to hear the voice.
Everything was here.
Do you sometimes see or perceive figures that do not have ...
a form that we may consider a human form...
that have other features?
Once...
I saw... spaceships.
The were five ...
in space.
I was looking ... the stars ... and everything was there ...
they were there ...
they were five.
They were positioned ... in ... four ... and one ... always very close to the two ... on the left side.
They were five ships.
They moved in a...
humanly impossible speed.
It was there ... and it was here ...
It was there ... and it was here ...
and they moved ... in perfect... harmony... as a simphony.
They didn't collide and they ...
And they exchanged positions among themselves ... always making this quadrilateral with one at the center.
In what situation did you see all this ... in any specific city ... here in Guarulhos?
Here in Guarulhos.
Through the window of my room at dawn when I was watching the sky ...
it was a beautiful night
with many stars in the sky ...
It is interesting that there are many reports of people who have seen unidentified objects ...
and who report sudden movements ...
and I as a physicist say that this is definitive proof, in my opinion,
that they are objects without mass.
Why do I say this ... by the law of inertia ...
if you make a sudden movement like reported, any mass that were in the interior ...
would be crushed like a car crashing at a seventy miles an hour on a wall.
That is, this movement in the form of zig zag ...
can only exist if there is no mass as we understand mass.
So ... again ... with whom I would share this experience?
And it lasted a long time.
for more than two hours ... and I was there watching ...
and not understanding ... because at first ... "wow ... what is that in the sky?"
"Wow ... four planes? Five?"
And how do you understand that when you join it with your near-death experience?
I think...
there really is a lot more stuff than we can understand ...
[I think] that little by little ...
according to our ability to understand ...
It's been allowed us to begin to realize ...
that is ... I truly believe that extraterrestrials have always existed ...
but only from a few years ago ... they have ...
they have allowed us ... to see them ... to perceive them ...
For me ... those ships that were in the sky ...
they were watching us.
There was an intention.
But do you feel like they were from another level of reality, different from ours?
Yes.
Completely.
What is this level of reality I do not know to explain.
And you ... having this sensitivity ...
of seeing ... as you commented ...
let's say... people next to people ...
have you ever seen someone you have noticed not being from here?
Yes.
And did you also feel the intention ... of that person?
Look ... in some moments ... not many ... but in some moments ...
I felt that...
and so ... "what do you want ...?"
"What is your intention?"
The intention is to add.
This being is occupying an image similar to ours ...
but has an intention.
What did it mean "is occupying an image"?
Are you talking about a body?
A body.
You look at a person like me and, somehow, you realize that this person is not here?
This happened twice.
Help me ... what does it mean not to be from here ... in that case?
As there is a body ... I can not say that this being has a long nose, a big ear ...
no ... because this person occupies a body ...
but within that body ...
I feel that there is an intention ...
and this intention is not bad ...
this intention is good...
this intention is to help us ...
it is to contribute.
But you feel that this person is different from us?
That this person is very different from us.
You talked ... at some point in ... about lives ...
Do you have an understanding today that we come back here sometimes?
and has your understanding been reinforced in some way by your near-death experience?
Yes.
How do you realize that you have had other lives?
Until that moment I had never even thought about it.
My biggest concern was "why ... if there is a God ..."
"a Being in the Universe who created all this ..."
"why are we so different from each other ..."
"why didn't it work like a factory ... first everybody white ... or everybody yellow ..."
and, besides, why our lives are so different ...
they are so unique ... like our own fingerprint ... it's unique ...
but until then I just wanted to understand what was around here.
About this I really wanted to learn.
After this experience [NDE] and having had this sensation of returning ...
I went back to my land ... to my home ... to my homeland ...
what is it?
How did I know that place was my land, my homeland ... and not here?
Why didn't I have an opposite feeling ... like "I left my homeland [on Earth] and went to visit another place" ...
That's not what I felt.
The happiness I felt was the happiness of being able to return ...
to my country, to my place ...
where I was raised.
And if I was sure ...
that although I had been raised there ... and lived here on Earth ... I wasn't going to stay there ... I was going somewhere else.
But wait ... I already have three different addresses ... right?
So ... from this situation ...
seeking knowledge ...
making my inner journey ...
I started to have some convictions.
Never from what I've been told.
I need to experience myself.
If I do not live ... if I do not feel ... if I do not experience this ...
you will not be able to convince me of your ideas.
Have you ever experienced any knowledge about past lives?
Yes.
About 15 years ago ...
practicing a spiritualist art ...
soon after I started to have images ...
about...
three moments ... in three times ... of different lives.
That made me a little ... dizzy ...
because... I wanted to deny...
because what I saw ...
when I recognized me in a male body ...
brutal men
but I recognized myself
it was me...
I was sure of it.
But worse than recognizing me in this body ... at this moment ... at this time ...
It was what I was doing ...
you know ... what I was doing with this body that was given to me.
And I did very horrible things.
And I could not deny it.
Because the good thing is to think you were ... an empress ...
a great... actress...
a prosperous... person...
beautiful...
- Cool... - it is not?
Good person...
But you never want to see yourself ...
commanding people to kill crowds of people.
You will never want to see yourself ...
offending and hurting people.
So ... I could not deny ... all that.
That embarrassed me ...
it hurt my heart ...
because I was sure...
that it was me.
Then you begin to have a slightly broader understanding.
So ... it's like this ... if I did all this ... and there is only one God ... just one Father ...
Wait a second ... He's got to be fair ...
If my life today ...
well, I'm still not a great actress ... I'm not wonderful ... beautiful ...
I am not rich...
I have no noble title ...
There has to be a reason for all this.
So that's when the pieces begin to fit together.
Why was I allowed to leave my body...
to take a trip
to know that my home was there but that was not where I was going to live ...
Do you think somehow all this that you have been through ...
may have been caused so that you could acquire this knowledge?
I'm sure about that.
I'm sure it was ... a great permission ... to go through these experiences ...
to make me ... to gather within me the knowledge that I have.
so that I can have a better perception ... of my neighbor.
so that I can have a better perception of myself...
so that I can make a better family.
I'm sure it was all for my best.
And even denying ... that God ... in all places ...
teaches us that ... [incomprehensible words] ...
If we have had other lives,
we're just going to remember those lives ...
after we die...
not before, not here.
I also consider this as a great permission ...
so that I do not waste this time I'm living here.
And when that person ...
that woman back there said ... "you have to go back ... you still have a mission ..."
"you have a lot to do"...
"you have to do all this ..."
"you promised you would do ..."
"and now you want to leave?"
She was severe with me.
She was mad at me.
Loving ... but mad.
But if you think on your ability of convincing anyone...
Severe.
She was right.
But she could not tell me everything at once.
So she did not just talk about your daughter ...
No.
She talked about the mission ...
which I understood to be the mission with my daughter.
And do you remember other things she may have spoken?
No ... that was basically thi.
I promised...
and I had to return and fulfill everything I had promised.
And you not even know exactly what she was referring to?
No.
But it was not only about your daughter?
As time went on ... I was sure it was not only about her.
She used the image of my daughter.
You know that bond between parents and children?
She used this very strong love bond that we all have with our children ...
to convince me that I had to return
But these words ... mission ... obligation ...
she did use.
And at that moment I understood it was related with my daughter ...
that I had to return ... to raise her ...
to make her a human being ...
to wait maybe 18 .. 20 ... 21 years ...
and then ... she would help me to leave ...
because then I would have raised her.
and then ... she became eighteen years old and nothing happened ...
she became twenty and nothing happened ...
and now I'm between fifty six and fifty seven and I do not want anyone to take me away.
I still have much to do here ...
and to learn ...
to improve...
to learn...
to make a greater contribution.
Because I think that each one of us has this obligation ...
has a mission ...
and this mission is with the planet ...
[it is a mission] we have ... with each other.
So I realize that there is an interaction between these two levels ...
If we take into account that maybe ...
this situation was possibly caused so that you could have that experience,
so that you would have some kind of understanding ... I mean ...
It seems things are related?
I'm sure of that.
And this distance ... between the other side ...
the astral world ... whatever the name you give to it...
and us...
It's ... tiny.
It's a hair.
[the other level] It's very close to us ...
although it seems to be very far ... far away ...
[although] it seems to be far beyond our comprehension ...
no...
everything is very close.
We ... with our individual responsibility ...
we need to start realizing this ...
so that we really can be happier.
In my opinion ... I can tell you ...
[the NDE] was a great providence for me to become a better human being.
Everything may have sounded kind of weird, sort of, sort of ...
but ... you know ... to be able to unravel ...
start unraveling ...
this other side
wow... this is fantastic
this is wonderful...
You said you wanted to talk about something.
Are you already talking about it ... or is it something you're still going to talk?
So ... I think everything ...
It's something I want to talk about.
I think everything has been prepared in our lives.
I think the terrestrial globe, as a whole, with everything that is on top of it ...
evolves... daily ...
minute after minute ...
and we need to keep up with all that evolution ...
we need to understand where we are going to.
It does not matter if at some point my journey here is going to end ...
because I already know that I will return.
So my commitment today is ...
while I'm here ... I need to do something good ... cool ...
I need to give my contribution ...
so that in my return reality is better ... and not worse.
But that is not what has happened.
Things are self-destructing all the time ...
the human being is self-destructive ...
and the human being self-destructs also because he has no self-knowledge.
He does not know where he's going.
He does not know what he has to do ...
where he has to go.
How does he have to go ... on which road will he walk?
So...
fifteen years ago ... for me ...
after much searching for roads ...
I found a road on which I ...
well...
let me see what this is like ...
while I was studying ... other ... religions ...
other intentions ...
I ... I found something ... that started to give me answers ...
but not only answers of the type "why did I come here ... why was I created ..."
"what is the mission I have ..."
No...
I have to understand that ... serious errors happened ...
When God allowed me to remember ...
three passages of my life ...
and see the horror that I caused ...
in three different times ... of humanity ...
[I have to understand that] in those occasions I interfered ... in this great intention.
But I'm here now ...
knowing...
knowing that there is another side ...
knowing that I have lived other lives ...
knowing that I was not nice ... that I was not cool ...
that I was...
very bad ... very nasty ... very wrong ...
But... now ... how do I fix it? It is already done!...
But I can fix it, yes.
So ... I found a place ...
it's called Art Mahikari ...
it is an art that purifies my spirit ...
it is an art that more than purifying my spirit, through this art I can help purifying other people ...
so that they can also have clarification without needing all this verbalization ...
so that they can find their inner self without having to have a journey outside the body.
so that they can rediscover their [different] addresses ... in here ...
without having to go through a trauma ... for example ... a very serious illness ... or a ...
They may have this consciousness before ...
God is helping.
What for?
So that they can also contribute to this movement of repairing the things we have done in the past.
This place was where I found... the answer.
What I did ... it's done ... I can not change what I did ...
but I have how to change and improve ... from now on ...
and this way ... improving here [present] I can even make up for something from there [past]...
from the luggage that I brought when I came to this life ...
Cool...
isn't it?
But...
each person...
regardless of his or her religion ...
or his or her spiritual practice ...
each person can start making an inner journey ...
and he or she is going to ... find out all this ...
without needing, maybe, to go through the experiences ...
that I had to go through.
And so we finished the interview about the near death experience of NEIA LEMOS.
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