>> Announcer: COLUMBUS AND THE
VIETNAM WAR, NEXT.
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>> WE'RE HERE AT THE
MOTTS MILITARY MUSEUM BECAUSE
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN COLUMBUS AND
THE VIETNAM WAR AND HOW THAT
TIME IN HISTORY SHAPED WHO WE
ARE TODAY.
>> VIETNAM, THE EPIC DOCUMENTARY
ABOUT THE WAR BY KEN BURNS AND
LYNN NOVIK, INSPIRED US TO
EXPLORE OUR OWN TIES TO THE WAR.
AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE
COLUMBUS DISPATCH TO TELL THESE
STORIES.
LOOK FOR SPECIAL COVERAGE IN THE
DISPATCH AND ON THEIR WEBSITE.
HAVE TWO EPISODES OF COLUMBUS
NEIGHBORHOODS FULL OF VIETNAM
STORIES FOR YOU.
THIS IS OUR FIRST INSTALLMENT
AND STAY TUNED NEXT WEEK FOR
MORE STORIES.
>> THE VIETNAM WAR HAPPENED
DURING A TIME OF TREMENDOUS
SOCIAL CHANGE IN THE NATION AND
THOSE CHANGES WERE RAPIDLY
PLAYING OUT ON THE OHIO STATE
CAMPUS.
UNDERSTANDING THAT HELPS PROVIDE
CONTEXT ABOUT THIS COMPLICATED
AND CONTROVERSIAL WAR.
>> IF YOU START WITH THE FALL OF
1960, THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES
AND STUDENTS WERE EXPECTED TO
OBEY AND THE CONSEQUENCES WERE
PRETTY SWIFT IF YOU DIDN'T.
NOW, THERE WAS AN UNDERCURRENT
OF CHANGE ALREADY THAT HAD
STARTED ABOUT COMPULSORY ROTC.
ABOUT WHETHER WOMEN COULD GO TO
MEN'S APARTMENTS OR NOT.
AND THE UNIVERSITY SUBSCRIBED AS
MOST UNIVERSITIES IN THE NORTH,
THAT I DIDN'T DISCRIMINATE.
SO THERE WASN'T FORMAL
SEGREGATION LIKE THERE WAS IN
THE SOUTH AT THAT TIME.
BUT, IN FACT, THERE WAS WHAT'S
CALLED "DE FACTO" SEGREGATION,
WHICH IS SEGREGATION BY
PRACTICE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS EXTREMELY
HARD FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN
STUDENTS TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE
ON CAMPUS.
INITIALLY, THE WAR DID NOT HAVE
THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON
CAMPUS.
ONE OF THE REASONS WAS THAT IF
YOU STAYED IN SCHOOL, YOU HAD A
DRAFT EXEMPTION.
AND IN FACT, IF YOU STAYED IN
SCHOOL FOR YOUR FOUR YEARS OF
UNDERGRADUATE STUDY, AND THEN
WENT ON TO LAW SCHOOL, OR
GRADUATE SCHOOL, YOU'D BE 25 BY
THE TIME YOU GOT OUT AND THEY
WOULDN'T DRAFT YOU ANYWAY.
BY 1968 OR SO, AS THE WAR
INTENSIFIED, PROTESTS GOT
BIGGER, BUT IT WAS MAYBE 50 OR
100 PEOPLE INSTEAD OF 10 OR 20.
BUT THEN, IN THE WINTER OF 1968,
PRESIDENT JOHNSON CHANGED THE
DEFERMENT REQUIREMENTS.
SO YOU COULD STILL GET A
DEFERMENT FOR FOUR YEARS IN
UNDERGRADUATE BUT YOU COULDN'T
GET THE ADDITIONAL TWO, THREE,
OR FOUR MORE YEARS AS A GRADUATE
STUDENT.
SO, BEGINNING WITH MY CLASS, THE
CLASS OF 1986, THE WAR BECAME
MUCH MORE IMMEDIATE.
THE FIRST PROTEST WHERE ANY
STUDENTS WERE ARRESTED OCCURRED
IN THE SPRING ON 1968.
THE UNIVERSITY REALLY CRACKED
DOWN.
SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS ENDED UP
BEING SENTENCED TO THE WORK
HOUSE.
SOME BLACK STUDENTS ENDED UP
GETTING THROWN OUT OF SCHOOL.
A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THE
UNIVERSITY OVERREACTED.
THE UNIVERSITY THOUGHT IT DID
THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE THE NEXT
YEAR WAS RELATIVELY QUIET.
THE OTHER THING A LOT OF PEOPLE
FORGET IS, THE UNIVERSITY BY
THEN, HAD DOUBLED IN SIZE FROM
THE FALL OF 1960 TO THE FALL OF
1969.
FROM 22,000 STUDENTS TO MORE
THAN 40,000.
THE UNIVERSITY HANDLED THE
PHYSICAL SIDE OF THAT FAIRLY
WELL.
THEY FOUND PLACES FOR THE
STUDENTS TO STAY AND ALL THAT.
THEY DIDN'T HANDLE THE PEOPLE
SIDE AS WELL.
AND THE STUDENTS WERE KIND OF
FEELING LIKE THEY WERE ONLY A
NUMBER.
THEN IN THE SPRING OF 1970, A
GROUP CALLED AFRO AM SURFACES
WITH A SET OF DEMANDS ABOUT HOW
BLACK STUDENTS ARE TREATED AND
THEY HAD A MEETING THAT ENDED UP
NOT TURNING OUT VERY WELL.
SO, THE STUDENTS THEN LEFT.
AND THEN ON THE WAY OUT, THEY
LEFT THE DOORS OPEN AND SOME
WHITE STUDENTS CAME IN AND
MARCHED AROUND THE BUILDING AND
DID A LITTLE BIT OF PROPERTY
DAMAGE.
THE UNIVERSITY THEN TOOK
DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE
BLACK STUDENTS WHO WERE THE
LEADERS OF THE AFRO-AM MOVEMENT.
AND EVENTUALLY THREW THEM OUT OF
SCHOOL.
A COUPLE WEEKS LATER, RIGHT AT
THE BEGINNING OF THE SPRING
QUARTER, THERE WAS AN ANTI-WAR
PROTEST IN THE OHIO UNION.
AND SOMEBODY GAVE THE ORDERS FOR
THE POLICE TO ARREST THE
STUDENTS.
WELL, AFTER THESE TWO INCIDENTS,
A GROUP OF STUDENTS GOT TOGETHER
THAT CALLED THEMSELVES, THE
AD-HOV COALITION FOR STUDENT
RIGHTS.
AND ABOUT 3:30, A SMALL GROUP OF
STUDENTS SITS DOWN IN THE MIDDLE
OF STREET AT NEIL AND 11th.
AND THEY GOT A CALL FROM THE
MEDICAL CENTER, THE UNIVERSITY
ADMINISTRATION CENTER DID,
SAYING THAT STUDENTS HAD BLOCKED
THAT ROAD AND THAT WAS THE
ROUTES TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
THEY DECIDED WE GOT TO CLEAR THE
INTERSECTION.
AND INITIALLY, THEY TRIED TO DO
IT LOW-KEY WITH PLAIN CLOTHES,
HIGHWAY PATROL PEOPLE WHO WERE
ON CALL.
SOME OF THE PROTESTERS RESISTED,
SO THEY CALLED FOR BACKUP FROM
UNIFORMED HIGHWAY PATROL.
SO, ABOUT 100 UNIFORMED HIGHWAY
PATROL PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
OSU IS A GREAT PLACE FOR 20 OR
30 PEOPLE DOING SOMETHING AND
2,000 OR 3,000 WATCHING.
CLASSES HAD CHANGED.
A BUNCH OF MEDICAL STUDENTS
STILL IN THEIR MEDICAL GARB, AND
OTHER STUDENTS NOW HAD COLLECTED
AND WERE WATCHING ALL THIS.
AND THE HIGHWAY PATROL SAID,
"THIS IS MORE THAN WE CAN
HANDLE."
THEY CALLED COLUMBUS POLICE FOR
BACKUP.
ABOUT 60 COLUMBUS POLICE CARS
COME FLYING UP THE STREET.
BY NOW, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHO DID
WHAT TO WHO.
BUT ROCKS AND BOTTLES ARE BEING
THROWN.
THE COLUMBUS POLICE AND HIGHWAY
PATROL DECIDED THE ONLY WAY TO
CLEAR THE INTERSECTION WAS TEAR
GAS.
THE TEAR GAS THEN FLOATS OVER TO
THE SOUTH CAMPUS DORMS AND ALL
IT SEEMS TO BE DOING IS EMPTYING
OUT THOSE DORMS.
AND IT'S LIKE STICKING A STICK
IN A HORNETS NEST BECAUSE THE
PEOPLE THAT GOT GASSED, THAT
WERE IN THEIR DORMS ARE NOT
HAPPY ABOUT IT.
SO THE CROWD TURNS KIND OF
SURLY.
THE POLICE AND TEAR GAS PUSH
THEM UP TOWARDS THE OVAL AND
THEN UP ACROSS HIGH STREET.
AND THEN THE POLICE ARE CHASING
THEM.
>> POLICE CAME.
THEY WERE HURLING TEAR GAS ALL
THE WAY UP THE STREET.
AND THEY CAME INTO THE
APARTMENT, TWO CANISTERS INTO MY
APARTMENT.
>> I'VE TALKED TO NUMEROUS
STUDENTS WHO SAY, "WE WERE
SITTING IN OUR ROOMING HOUSE OR
OUR FRATERNITY HOUSE, AND THE
POLICE FIRED TEAR GAS IN THERE.
AND THAT GETS THEM OUT.
AND SO IT TURNS INTO A MAJOR
BROUHAHA INTO THE EVENING HOURS.
>> AS A RESULT OF CONTINUED
ESCALATION, THE UNIVERSITY HAS
REQUESTED AND THE GOVERNOR HAS
THE AUTHORIZED THE USE OF THE
NATIONAL GUARD TO ASSIST IN THE
RESTORATION OF ORDER.
>> BY MIDNIGHT THE FIRST
NATIONAL GUARDSMEN ARE HERE AND
THEY CLEAR HIGH STREET.
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, THE
NATIONAL GUARD IS PLAYING
WHACK-A-MOLE WITH THE STUDENTS
ON THE OVAL.
BY FRIDAY, THINGS START TO
SETTLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, A LOT
OF STUDENTS GO HOME FOR THE
WEEKEND.
THAT'S WHEN PRESIDENT NIXON
ANNOUNCES U.S. TROOPS ARE GOING
INTO CAMBODIA.
AT KENT STATE THAT CREATES A
PROTEST AND THE NATIONAL GUARD
IS CALLED IN QUICKLY THERE.
AND THEN AT NOON ON MONDAY, IS
WHEN THE NATIONAL GUARD FIRES
INTO THE CROWD THERE.
THINGS HAD STARTED TO SETTLE
DOWN HERE, BUT THE WORD COMES
DOWN FROM KENT STATE.
THE INITIAL PRESS REPORTS WERE
THAT BOTH NATIONAL GUARDSMEN AND
STUDENTS WERE KILLED THEIR.
SO, IT'S GOT THE NATIONAL
GUARDSMEN SPOOKED.
IT'S GOT THE STUDENTS SPOOKED.
AND IT'S VERY INTENSE HERE FOR
THE NEXT TWO DAYS.
A LOT OF CREDIT GOES TO A GROUP
OF FACULTY CALLED THE GREEN
RIBBON COMMITTEE, WHO
INTERSPERSED THEMSELVES BETWEEN
THE NATIONAL GUARD AND THE
PROTESTERS TO TRY TO KEEP ORDER.
AND THEN A GROUP OF STUDENTS
CALLED THE YELLOW RIBBON
COMMITTEE, OF STUDENT GOVERNMENT
LEADERS, HAD TRIED TO HELP THEM.
AND THEY WERE PROBABLY HELPFUL
IN KEEPING OHIO STATE FROM
TURNING INTO AN EVEN UGLIER
INCIDENT THAN KENT STATE.
SO, AFTER TWO DAYS OF
THIS --OPEN HOSTILITY NOW
BETWEEN THE STUDENTS AND
NATIONAL GUARD IS THE RESULT OF
WHAT HAPPENED AT KENT STATE.
SO, THEY I THINK RIGHTFULLY
CLOSED THE PLACE DOWN.
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CAMPUS REOPENS IN TWO WEEKS,
WITH SOMETHING LIKE
5,000 NATIONAL GUARD.
THIS ISN'T KNOWN VERY MUCH
NATIONALLY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT
THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS, THERE ARE
MORE THAN 800.
THE NUMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
INVOLVED, THE LENGTH OF THE
PROTEST, THE INTENSITY, WHAT
HAPPENED HERE AT OHIO STATE WAS
PROBABLY THE WORST OF ANY CAMPUS
IN THE COUNTRY.
THINK YOU CAN SAY TO THE
PROTESTERS YOU CAN'T HAVE
JUSTICE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ORDER.
TO THE LAW AND ORDER PEOPLE YOU
CAN SAY, "YOU CAN'T HAVE ORDER
UNLESS YOU HAVE JUSTICE."
AND I THINK THE UNIVERSITY FELL
ALONG WITH THE POLICE AND
ELECTED OFFICIALS UNDER THE
EASY, WELL, ALL WE NEED TO DO IS
CRACK HEADS AND THAT'S GOING TO
GET THESE PEOPLE LINED UP.
I CREDIT THE UNIVERSITY FROM
LEARNING FROM THAT.
THEY GOT SO CAUGHT UP IN JUST
TALKING TO THEMSELVES, THEY LOST
TOUCH WITH THE WAY STUDENTS HAD
CHANGED AND THE WAY CAMPUS HAD
CHANGED AND THE WAY SOCIETY HAD
CHANGED.
THEY THOUGHT THE ANSWER TO ALL
THAT WAS JUST CRACKING HEADS,
AND THAT, THAT WASN'T.
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>> WHEN VIETNAM VETERANS CAME
BACK, THEY WERE NOT WELCOMED
HOME LIKE VETERANS FROM PREVIOUS
WARS.
>> AND VETERANS DIDN'T TELL
THEIR STORIES BECAUSE PEOPLE
DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THEM.
AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE'VE LOST
A LOT OF OUR HISTORY.
>> SO HERE ARE TWO STORIES.
ONE ABOUT AN ARMY NURSE, ONE OF
7,000 WHO SERVED.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN
REALIZE THAT THERE WERE WOMEN
WHO WERE, IN FACT, VIETNAM
VETERANS.
>> AND ANOTHER ABOUT A RADIO
OPERATOR WHO JUST WOULDN'T GIVE
UP.
>> MY NAME IS HENRY GUZMAN.
I WAS YOUNG.
I WAS 19.
LATINOS ARE VERY PATRIOTIC.
AND I WANTED TO DO MY DUTY THEN,
OKAY.
AND SO, I WANTED TO GO.
THEY ASSIGNED ME TO BE THE RADIO
OPERATOR FOR THE COMPANY
COMMANDER.
WELL, YOU CARRIED A BIG RADIO ON
YOUR BAG, AND I MEAN, IT WAS
PRETTY BIG WITH A BIG ANTENNAE
COMING OUT OF IT.
AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY WAS TO
BE IN TOUCH WITH -- OBVIOUSLY
WITH THE OTHER PLATOONS.
ALSO, I HAD ALL OF OUR
COORDINATES OF WHERE WE WERE AT
ALL TIMES.
BUT, EVERYONE WAS A TARGET.
BUT OBVIOUSLY, THE RADIO WAS
IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, THEY KNEW THAT AND IF
THEY COULD KNOCK THE RADIO OUT,
THEN THEY KNOCKED OUT
COMMUNICATIONS.
>> MY NAME IS BOBBIE MERSHON.
I AM A VIETNAM VETRAN.
THE ARMY HAD A PROGRAM TO
INCREASE THE NUMBER OF NURSES IN
THE MILITARY BECAUSE 1968 WAS A
TEND OFFENSIVE.
AND THERE WAS A BIG INCREASE IN
MILITARY PERSONNEL THROUGH THE
DRAFT PROCESS.
AND THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH
NURSES.
AND I WAS ASSIGNED TO THE
93rd EVAC HOSPITAL.
AND THEN WHEN I GOT TO THE 93rd,
I WAS ASSIGNED TO WARD THREE,
WHICH IS THE SURGICAL INTENSIVE
CARE.
A RECOVERING ROOM AND WE WERE
ALSO THE BURN CENTER FOR
VIETNAM.
I'M TELLING YOU, I WAS SHAKING
IN THAT BRIGHT GREEN UNIFORM IN
MY BLACK SHINY BOOTS.
I WAS SHAKING, I THOUGHT, "WHAT
HAVE I GOTTEN MYSELF INTO, I'M
HERE FOR A YEAR."
AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO
THIS?
>> AND WE WOULD BE FLOWN IN BY
HELICOPTER.
WE'D BE DROPPED INTO THE JUNGLE,
AND WE WOULD SEARCH FOR THE
ENEMY.
SO, YOU NEVER KNEW WHEN YOU WENT
OUT ON A NIGHT AMBUSH, WHERE YOU
HAD TO GO OUT AT NIGHT AND
POSITION YOURSELF AT A LOCATION
THAT COULD BE A FIREFIGHT THAT
EVENING.
I GIVE A LOT OF THANKS TO MY
FAMILY.
WE WERE A VERY CLOSE-KNIT
FAMILY.
SO, I WOULD GET A LOT OF LETTER
FROM HOME.
AND LETTERS FROM HOME WERE VERY
IMPORTANT TO US.
YOU GET AN AK-47 ROUND OR
SHRAPNEL OR WHATEVER, ALL OF
THAT IS DIRTY.
ALL THAT RED VIETNAM DIRT IS ALL
OVER YOUR UNIFORM.
THAT BULLET BOUNCES AROUND OR
SHRAP -- WHATEVER BOUNCES AROUND
AND YOU'RE GETTING EVERYTHING
DIRTY.
SO, WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY
WOULD SEE AN ENTRY WOUND, THEY
SIMPLY KIND OF SLICE IT OPEN AND
FILLET IT OUT.
WE WOULD USE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE,
I DON'T KNOW, FIVE-GALLON DRUM
IT SEEMED LIKE.
AND TO CLEAN THOSE WOUNDS AND
WATCH FOR GRANULATION TISSUE TO
FORM.
AND ONCE THE DOCTOR COULD SEE
THAT EVERYTHING WAS GROWING BACK
HEALTHY, THERE WAS NO INFECTION,
THEN WE WOULD TAKE THEM BACK TO
SURGERY FOR SECONDARY CLOSURES.
THERE WAS A RIVER TO OUR LEFT,
AND THE TRAIL, OKAY, WE WERE
SORT OF IN A VALLEY, IF YOU
WILL.
AND THERE HAD BEEN SOME
COMMUNICATIONS WIRE STRUNG
OVERHEAD ON THAT SAME TRAIL.
SO WE KNEW IT WAS LEADING TO
SOMETHING BIG.
WHEN WE GOT TO THAT POINT WHERE
THE MACHINE GUNS WERE SUPPOSED
TO BE, THEY WEREN'T THERE.
WELL, WHEN I LIFTED UP TO GRAB
MY HANDSET TO TALK, THAT'S WHEN
IT OPENED UP.
AND WE WERE CAUGHT IN A PRETTY
GOOD AMBUSH.
AND I WAS HIT.
WE TOOK CARE OF THEM THE BEST
WAY YOU COULD.
WE KEPT THEM FOR FOUR DAYS,
USUALLY.
THAT WAS THE AVERAGE STAY, UNTIL
WE COULD GET THEM STABILIZED.
YOU PUT THAT IN A PART OF YOUR
BRAIN WHERE YOU DIDN'T THINK
ABOUT IT.
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH,
ALL OF THE STRESS AND EVERYTHING
ELSE, IF YOU - -
I COULD HAVE CRIED A BUCKET OF
TEARS FOR EVERYONE OF THOSE GUYS
THAT CAME IN.
BUT I COULDN'T.
I NEVER CRIED OUT THERE.
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>> I NEVER REALLY WANTED TO TALK
ABOUT IT.
AND EVEN TODAY, IT'S HARD FOR ME
TO TALK ABOUT IT.
AND NOW, AS WE GET OLDER, WE
WANT TO TELL SO THAT THE
GENERATIONS TO FOLLOW KNOW MORE
ABOUT WHAT WE DID.
INSTEAD OF THAT PART OF HISTORY,
THAT BASICALLY WAS ALL THE
DEMONSTRATIONS AND ALL I THAT.
I THINK WE WANT TO SAY THAT,
LOOK, WE WERE YOUNG GUYS, DOING
WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO.
>> A LOT OF NURSES THERE AT ANY
ONE TIME.
TALKING TO STUDENTS IS ONE OF MY
FAVORITE THINGS.
AND GETTING THAT KNOWLEDGE OUT
AND GETTING THE STORY OF VIETNAM
OUT.
AND I KNOW, THAT THEY ARE
HEROES.
EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE NOT
TREATED AS SUCH WHEN THEY GOT
HOME.
AND I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.
BY BEING THERE WITH THEM.
AND SHARING THAT WITH THEM.
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>> Announcer: THE NAMES OF MORE
THAN 58,000 MEN AND WOMEN ARE
INSCRIBED IN THE BLACK GRANITE
OF THE VIETNAM VETERAN'S
MEMORIAL.
NOW, THERE'S AN EFFORT TO FIND A
FACE FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE
NAMES.
WOSU JOINS OTHER PUBLIC
TELEVISION STATIONS ASKING YOU
TO HELP FIND PHOTOGRAPHS OF
PEOPLE WHO DIED IN THE VIETNAM
WAR.
VISIT VVMF.ORG/FACES TO LEARN
MORE ABOUT THE PHOTO COLLECTION
EFFORT.
YOU CAN ALSO EXPLORE THE VIRTUAL
WALL OF FACES ON THIS PAGE.
AND BY CLICKING ON ADVANCED
SEARCH, YOU CAN SEE INFORMATION
ABOUT EVERYONE ON THE WALL WHO
ENLISTED IN COLUMBUS.
WE BELIEVE THERE ARE NAMES OF
113 SERVICEMEN FROM OUR VIEWING
AREA ON THE WALL WITHOUT AN
ACCOMPANYING PHOTOGRAPH.
VISIT VVMF.ORG/FACES TO LEARN
HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED.
>> LIKE NO OTHER TIME IN
HISTORY, THE MUSIC OF THE 60s
DEFINED A GENERATION.
>> WE WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT
SONG OF THE VIETNAM ERA STUCK A
CORD WITH ALL OF THE PEOPLE WE
INTERVIEWED FOR THESE STORIES.
WHAT'S A SONG OF THE ERA THAT
YOU FIND ESPECIALLY MEANINGFUL?
POST TO OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AND
SEE WHAT OTHER FANS ARE SAYING.
>> SOME SONGS ARE EASY TO SPOT,
AND SOME MIGHT SURPRISE YOU.
>> THE MUSIC WAS VERY MUCH A
PART OF IT IN THAT PERIOD.
IT'S KIND OF WHAT BOUND YOUNG
PEOPLE TOGETHER.
WE ALL LISTENED TO THE SAME
MUSIC.
AND KIND OF FELT THE SAME
ASPIRATIONS, THAT IT HELP
ARTICULATE WHAT WAS WRONG WITH
THE WORLD AND WHY WE WANTED TO
MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE.
ONE OF MY FAVORITES CAME OUT IN
THE FALL OF 1965 I BELIEVE BY
THE ANIMALS CALLED "WE GOTTA GET
OUT OF THIS PLACE."
\M WE GOT TO GET OUT OF THIS
PLACE, IF IT'S THE LAST THING WE
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>> AND INITIALLY, IT BECAME THE
UNOFFICIAL SONG OF FINALS WEEK.
YOU'D GO DURING -- AFTER YOUR
FINALS WERE DONE, GO TO A CAMPUS
BAR, PUT THAT IN A JUKEBOX AND
BLAST IT OUT.
WE GOT TO GET OUT OF THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT, AS A
STUDENT, WE THOUGHT YOU KNOW,
GOING THROUGH FINALS WE WERE
REALLY IN AN OPPRESSED CLASS AND
ALL THAT.
WHERE THAT CAME AROUND FOR ME,
WAS THEN I GO TO VIETNAM, AND I
WAS BACK IN THE REAR AT THE
OFFICERS CLUB IN BIEN HOA AND
THERE'S A PHILIPPINO BAND
PLAYING THERE.
FIRST OF ALL, THE INCONGRUITY OF
SITTING IN AN AIR CONDITIONED
OFFICER CLUB EATING STEAK AND
HAVING A BAND ENTERTAIN YOU
AFTER I'VE JUST BEEN IN THE
FIELD, WHICH WAS NOT A PLEASANT
OR SAFE PLACE TO BE STUCK ME.
BUT THEN, THE BAND STARTED
SINGING "WE GOTTA GET OUT OF
THIS PLACE."
WHICH OF COURSE, BECAME THE
UNOFFICIAL ANTHEM OF THE VIETNAM
SOLDIERS.
>> "I GOTTA GET OUT OF THIS
PLACE" OBVIOUSLY.
AND I'M LEAVING ON A JET PLANE.
\M I'M LEAVING ON A JET PLANE, I
DON'T KNOW WHEN I'LL BE BACK
AGAIN \M
THOSE WERE THE TWO FAVORITE
SONGS WHEN I WAS THERE.
AND THEY'D WHIP OUT THOSE SONGS
AND WE'D ALL GET UP AND STAND UP
AND SING.
\M OUR TIME HAS COME TO LEAVE
YOU \M
\M ONE MORE TIME, LET ME KISS
YOU \M
\M THEN CLOSE YOUR EYES, I'LL BE
ON MY WAY \M
>> "THE LIONS SLEEP TONIGHT" I
CAN HUM IT, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE
WORDS.
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>> \M THE LION SLEEPS TONIGHT \M
\M IN THE JUNGLE, THE MIGHTY
JUNGLE, THE LION SLEEPS
TONIGHT \M
\M IN THE JUNGLE, THE QUIET
JUNGLE, THE LION SLEEPS
TONIGHT \M
>> THE GUYS WOULD GO AROUND
SINGING THAT SONG.
OF ALL PLACES, WE'RE IN THE
JUNGLE AND I SAYS REALLY?
YOU'RE GOING TO SING THAT SONG?
SO THAT WAS -- WE USED TO COME
OUT HUMMING IT.
ONE GUY WOULD START, AND THE
NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE HAD A
WHOLE GROUP OF GUYS HUMMING THAT
SONG.
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>> IF THERE'S ONE SONG THAT
REMINDS ME OF MILITARY IT'S
JAMES TAYLOR'S "I'VE SEEN FIRE
AND I'VE SEEN RAIN."
\M I'VE SEEN FIRE AND I'VE SEEN
RAIN \M
\M I'VE SEEN SUNNY DAYS THAT I
THOUGHT WOULD NEVER END \M
>> I RECENTLY WENT TO THE
FUNERAL OF A YOUNG MARINE THAT
WAS KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN AND
THEY PLAYED THAT AND I JUST
CRIED.
AND EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT, I
THINK I'VE SEEN FIRE AND I'VE
SEEN RAIN, AND I DIDN'T KNOW
WHEN I WAS GOING TO SEE YOU
AGAIN.
THAT ONE BRINGS ME TO TEARS.
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GO ON \M
\M BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR PUMP IS
GONE \M
>> PROBABLY THE FOUR TOPS.
WE DIDN'T GET TO LISTEN TO THE
RADIO LIKE SOME PEOPLE DID.
I MEAN, EVERY NOW AND THEN, I
WAS TRYING TO SAY JUST THE
FOUR TOPS AND THE SUPREMES AND
THE TEMPTATIONS WERE IT.
WE MOSTLY ADAPTED TO BECAUSE I
DIDN'T GET TO LISTEN TO THE
RADIO VERY OFTEN, I WAS OUT IN
THE FIELD.
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WILL SHINE THROUGH YOU \M
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>> I'M YOUR PUPPET, THAT WAS
SENT TO ME.
I REMEMBER THE FIVE STAIR STEPS
AND THEIR MUSIC.
BUT THE ONE THAT WAS TOP WAS
LOU RAWLS LIVE.
THE ALBUM, WE WERE ALWAYS LIVE.
THAT WAS IT.
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MUSIC WAS PART OF OUR THERAPY
EVEN IN VIETNAM.
THERE ARE SONGS THAT I WILL
ALWAYS ASSOCIATE WITH VIETNAM.
INCLUDING
CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL,
BAD MOON RISING.
ROLLING STONES, SOME OF THEIR
EARLY HITS.
AND WHEN I HEAR THOSE SONGS, OF
COURSE, IT'S A TRIGGER, BUT NOT
A NEGATIVE TRIGGER BECAUSE THAT
WAS A POSITIVE PART OF VIETNAM,
THE MUSIC.
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IT'S BOUND TO TAKE YOUR LIFE \M
\M THERE'S A BAD MOON ON THE
RISE \M
>> I'VE NOTICED THE 50th
ANNIVERSARY OF SGT. PEPPER'S
TALKING --
HOW FASCINATING WAS, EVERY TIME
A NEW BEATLES ALBUM CAME OUT.
EVERYONE GOT PSYCHED UP.
WHO COULD GET TO THE RECORD
STORE FIRST TO BUY THE NEW
BEATLES ALBUM AND PLAY IT.
AND I REMEMBER HEARING THOSE
ALBUMS AS THEY CAME OUT.
AND WHEN I FIRST HEARD SGT.
PEPPER, I WASN'T SURE ABOUT IT
BECAUSE I WAS -- I KIND OF LIKED
THE EARLIER BEATLES UP TEMPO
TYPE STUFF.
BUT AS TIME HAS GONE ON, I'VE
REALLY LEARNED TO APPRECIATE HOW
MUCH THEIR MUSIC SET THE TONE
FOR THAT WHOLE PERIOD.
IN A WAY, THERE WAS KIND OF A
HOSTILE TAKEOVER OF POP CULTURE
BY YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE 60s.
PARTICULARLY YOUNG PEOPLE IN
COLLEGE.
AND THE MUSIC WAS A BIG -- PART
OF THE APPEAL OF THE MUSIC WAS
THAT YOU LIKED IT, PART OF THE
APPEAL WAS YOUR PARENTS DIDN'T.
AND IT WAS A WAY TO KIND OF
ESTABLISH A SENSE OF
GENERATIONAL IDENTITY.
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FOR REFLECTION AND FEWER
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HELP.
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JUST NOW EXPERIENCING IT.
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