BILLYE: Out of the side came the woman, and
out of the rib and side of Jesus came the bride.
(Singing) I know my God has made the way for me.
I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: When God's glory shows up, there's nothing
of the curse that can remain; everything bad
overtaken by everything that is good. Let's
join Gloria Copeland and her special guest,
Billye Brim, for today's Believer's Voice of Victory.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. I'm Gloria Copeland,
and welcome to the Believer's Voice of Victory. Billye Brim's
back with us from Prayer Mountain in the Ozark, and she's
really loaded for bear. BILLYE: Loaded for bear. GLORIA: I mean,
this is it. She's going to talk about the glory! BILLYE: Well,
you know, Gloria, this--the message of the glory of God is
really the message God gave me to begin with. GLORIA: Yeah.
You've been preaching it a long time. BILLYE: I've been
preaching it for years because a revelation of it came to me
about the glorious Church. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. BILLYE: And
I--every time I come to it, like today, where do I start? Do I
start at the end about the glory? Do I start at the
beginning about the glory? Because the whole Bible became,
to me, the story of the glory. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. BILLYE: And so I
want to read--I was teaching on it a year ago in October. And I
was teaching on it out at Prayer Mountain, and this Word of the
Lord came, which I'm going to read to you. It came through me.
"You have come to the time now for the lightning and the glory
of the unseen to be manifest to you. You have come to the time
when the things of the earth are growing dimmer. Earth's
magnetism will soon release you. The gravitational hold will be
taken away." GLORIA: Mmm. BILLYE: "But until that day,
degree by degree, step by step, more and more, the glory will
shine on you. GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: "Your eyes will see
even more than you've seen before. And that more, more,
more that you cry for--" GLORIA: Yes, Lord. BILLYE: "--will come
unto you." GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: "Things you grasp,
you'll let go of. Grudges you've held will hold you no more.
Fires of lust will hold you no more. Freedom will ring within
your soul even as now it does in your spirit. Free, free, free
shall my bride be." GLORIA: Praise God. Amen. BILLYE: "And
the manifestation of Me shall show up on your face--" GLORIA:
Yes, Lord. BILLYE: "--and the glory and the grace in every
place you go." GLORIA: Mm-mm. BILLYE: "The time is come and
that you know. But this isn't the whole of it. This isn't the
all. You really are barely beginning. But steps and degrees
will increase quickly, and the Master will become everything to
you." GLORIA: Praise God. What a word that is. BILLYE: What a
word. GLORIA: We receive that, Lord. BILLYE: "The Master will
become everything to you." GLORIA: Yes, amen. Praise God.
BILLYE: You know, there's that old song, "And the things of the
earth--" GLORIA: Shall grow-- TOGETHER: "--will grow strangely
dim--" what? GLORIA: --in the light-- TOGETHER: "--of His--"
GLORIA: "--glory and grace." BILLYE: "--in the light of His
glory and grace." GLORIA: I would sing it, but I'm going to
put that off for a few dozen years. BILLYE: Well, praise the
Lord. GLORIA: That is a great song, though, and it is the
truth. It is. BILLYE: And do you find that happening in your own
life, Gloria, the things of the earth grow strangely dim?
GLORIA: Yeah, really, it does. You keep moving forward and
upward. BILLYE: That's right. GLORIA: You know, it looks a
little different. BILLYE: Yeah. GLORIA: You're not--you become
taken over by this Word. BILLYE: That's what happens. GLORIA:
Mm-hmm. BILLYE: The truth of it. GLORIA: That's right. BILLYE:
God's Word here, the truth of it, overtakes everything.
GLORIA: That's right. Changes everything. BILLYE: Yes. Bless
the Lord. GLORIA: If you'll let it, it'll change everything.
BILLYE: Now, I'm going to use for my key verse of scripture,
which is the key verse of scripture that I always use when
I'm teaching on this subject, and that is Ephesians 5:25-27.
And I've got it down here for you. GLORIA: You've got it?
Okay. BILLYE: Ephesians 5--the whole book of Ephesians is about
the glorious Church. GLORIA: I like that first sentence,
"Husbands, love your wives." BILLYE: Isn't that the truth?
You've got one that loves you, girl. GLORIA: I know it's a
blessing, too. BILLYE: I'm telling you, I get to stay down
at your house, and I get to watch that love. GLORIA: It's
for real. BILLYE: It's for real. I can tell you right now.
GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE: They love each other just as Christ loved
the Church. You see the--the marriage on earth is supposed to
show-- GLORIA: Yeah. BILLYE: --Christ and His Church. GLORIA:
That's right. BILLYE: And when God has joined you together, and
you walk in love, then it can happen. GLORIA: Yes. BILLYE: So
whenever I do weddings-- GLORIA: It's a blessing. BILLYE: --which
I don't do many, but I sometimes just speak at the wedding, and I
always teach on love and walking in love. GLORIA: That's the key.
BILLYE: That's the whole key. GLORIA: Yes, it is. BILLYE: So
this scripture, which is the--I'd say the key scripture
of the whole book of Ephesians. If you've got one book in the
Bible that you want to be meditating now, it's the book of
Ephesians. And this key little passage right here is talking
about the glorious Church. "Husbands, love your wives, even
as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for her; that
he might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by
the word, that he might present her to himself a glorious
church, not having spot, or wrinkle--" GLORIA: Yeah, that's
right. BILLYE: "--or any such thing; but that she should be
holy and without blemish." GLORIA: You know, in Verse 26,
we think about, of course, "washing by the water of the
word," being washed from sin, and that's what it means, too,
but it also means being washed from any part of the curse;
poverty. BILLYE: Absolutely. GLORIA: You got into--you got
into the Lord Jesus, you got into the Word, it washed poverty
away, sickness away, every part of the curse away; unhappiness,
sadness. BILLYE: Well, Gloria, we're going to draw this to a
picture of Christ and His bride. GLORIA: Praise God. That will be
good. BILLYE: Now, would He want His bride--want a sick bride?
GLORIA: No. BILLYE: A poor, barely-get-along bride? GLORIA:
No. No spot. BILLYE: Not a spot. GLORIA: Hm-mm. BILLYE: Not a
wrinkle. GLORIA: That's right. BILLYE: Not a blemish. GLORIA:
Praise God. BILLYE: So this is going to be a picture-- GLORIA:
This--I'm excited already. I like it. BILLYE: There's going
to be a picture of the glorious Church. GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE:
Now, I want to, right here, tell you that the absolute key for
understanding Scripture is correctly, rightly dividing the
Word. And I have to get this in every time I teach. In fact, I
did a little book on it-- GLORIA: Good. BILLYE: --"How to
Rightly Divide the Word," because people are mixed up on
it. I heard someone, not long ago, that you'd think really had
everything straight, and they were preaching from the book
of--24th chapter of Matthew, and they had like the Church
applying scriptures to it which don't account. We're not going
through the wrath of God. GLORIA: Huh-uh. BILLYE: The
wrath of God is coming in the tribulation time. And three or
four times, it tells-- GLORIA: After the Church leaves. BILLYE:
After we're gone. And it tells us three times in the scriptures
that the Church is not appointed to wrath. GLORIA: Yeah. BILLYE:
So if you don't understand how to rightly divide the Word,
you're going to have the Church doing things that don't apply to
us. It applies to the Jews, it applies to the nations, but it
doesn't apply to us. So you really have to know how to
rightly divide the Word. And the Word in the New Testament tells
you that it has to be rightly divided. II Timothy 2:15 says,
"Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth
not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Well, I sometimes hear preachers not rightly divide the Word. And
I'm thinking, "Woops. I don't know if that gets approval or
not, but I'm not the judge, God is." GLORIA: That's right.
BILLYE: But He approves of your messages or not. GLORIA: Look at
the key word there, Billye. BILLYE: Yes. GLORIA: "Study."
BILLYE: Study. You've got it, girl. GLORIA: Meditate on it, in
other words. Get in the Word. See what the Bible says about
you, what it says about me. I mean, it's awesome. When you
study and you find out what the Bible says about born-again
believers, you don't want to go anywhere else. BILLYE: No.
GLORIA: It is so wonderful. BILLYE: But that's the point,
Gloria. GLORIA: Yes, amen. BILLYE: People try to make every
scripture apply to them and they don't. The scriptures apply to
people-- GLORIA: You have to study. BILLYE: They're written
to certain people, and they're written to groups of peoples.
Now, in I Corinthians 10:32, it says, "Give no one offense,
neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles," that means the
nations, "nor to the church of God." You could only be in one
of those groups. In the Old Testament, it was the Jews and
the nations, the Jews and the Gentiles, then Jesus came. After
that, any Jew, any Gentile can come into the third group, the
Body of Christ, the ecclesia, the Church. How do you get
there? It tells you. You believe in your heart God raised Jesus
from the dead and you confess Him with your mouth. And then
you become a new creation, a species that never was before.
GLORIA: Born over again. BILLYE: Yes. So that's the third group.
And that's the one we're in. Now, the third group--I like the
word--the group--for the Church--actually, the Greek word
is ecclesia. "Ecc," means out, called out, a called-out
assembly. We are called out of every tribe, every nation, every
tongue, and we come into an assembly. What is the assembly
we come into? The Body of Christ. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. BILLYE:
So which scriptures say to the Body of Christ who you are, what
you are, what you have, where you're going, and how it's going
to transpire? The New Testament letters. The New Testament
letters are where you find the revelation of the ecclesia, of
the called-out assembly. GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE: So it's in the New
Testament letters. One of those letters is the book of
Ephesians. Now, let's take that scripture that we looked at to
begin with. And it says, "He has sanctified and cleansed her with
the washing of--" And by the way, "ecclesia" is a feminine
word, so that's why we change her--you know, we change it to
"her" rather than "it." GLORIA: Okay. BILLYE: So Ephesians
5:25-27, "Husbands love your wives, even as" the Anointed One
also loved the ecclesia--" GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE: --the
called-out assembly, which is His body, "and gave himself for
her; that he might present her--sanctify and cleanse her
with the washing of water by the word, that he might present her
to himself a glorious church--" GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE: "--not
having spot, or wrinkle--" Now, "present her," in other words,
we find out in here that the Church, the Body, is going to
have a presentation, and He's going to present her to Himself.
Now, how do we study-- GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: --to find
out what He means by that? Like you said, Glo, you have to
study. So I--here are some scriptures that talk about that
presentation. So in II Corinthians 11:2, which is going
to be on page two-- GLORIA: Okay. BILLYE: --we're going to
look at the scriptures that talk about the presentation of Christ
presenting the Church to Himself. He's the bridegroom,
we're the bride. So II Corinthians 11:2, "I am jealous
over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one
husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to" the
Anointed One. So we are going to be presented to Him as our
husband, and we are going to be a chaste bride. We're not going
to be a filthy, half-in-bed-with-the-world
church-- GLORIA: No. BILLYE: --at His presentation. GLORIA:
Amen. BILLYE: In fact, He's not coming for a church. We will
have progressed-- GLORIA: Yeah. BILLYE: --from glory to glory to
glory to glory to glory until there's only one more step, and
that's out of here. GLORIA: And there's no spot or wrinkle.
BILLYE: No spot or wrinkle when He comes for us. He's the most
glorious bridegroom ever there was, and He's going to have the
most glorious bride. GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: And II
Corinthians 4:14 talks about this presentation. "Knowing that
he which raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise up us--up
us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you." GLORIA:
Praise God. BILLYE: So we're going to be presented.
Colossians 1:21-22, "You, that were sometime alienated and
enemies in your minds by wicked works, yet now hath he
reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present
you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight."
Jude 24, "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling--"
GLORIA: Yes. Thank God. BILLYE: "--and to--" do what? TOGETHER:
"--to present you--" BILLYE: "--faultless before--" what?
GLORIA: He is able. BILLYE: "--the presence of his glory--"
GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE: "--with exceeding joy." I'm kind of
going to skip ahead here and say, the church of those three
groups is the entity that will stand throughout eternity in the
presence of the glory-- GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: --of God the
Father. And we will do it because of what He's done for
us, which presents us faultless before the presence of His
glory. If we were not faultless, we couldn't stand there. GLORIA:
No. BILLYE: You know, Ananias and Sapphira, I've been reading
that account lately. John G. Lake said, "The glory of God is
as destructive of evil as it is creative of good." GLORIA:
Mm-hmm. BILLYE: Here's Ananias and Sapphira. They're not off
down at the theater watching the lions eat the people. They're
where Peter is. They're where the church is. And Peter said to
them, "Now when you had that property, wasn't it yours to
control? And even when you sold it--" GLORIA: Mm-hmm. BILLYE:
"--you didn't have to say that you brought it all. You could
have kept some aside." But what did they do? They told a lie.
GLORIA: Mm. BILLYE: They said, "We brought it all." So what
happened was they were in presence of so much glory that
the glory burst through and judged the lie. I personally
think Ananias and Sapphira are probably in heaven, but when the
glory is manifested big, it breaks out like it did. You
know, when they had the glory of God--when David had the glory
and he was bringing it on that cart--he was bringing the
tabernacle back and the mercy seed, and he put it on a cart.
He said, "Oh, we're modernized now. We've got this cart. It's
got wheels on it. We're going to take this down." So they're
going fine. And then it's--the ox, it stumbles. So this man
named Uzzah, he reaches out and steadies the ark. Well, that was
kind of a good thing to do. You don't want the ark to fall.
Ping, he's dead. Did God just not like Uzzah? No. He
touched--he came in the presence of the glory, and it judged him.
So let's go on down here to see about this presentation. We are
going to be presented, the Church of the living God, a
bride, and we're going to be a glorious bride. So we're going
to read our scripture again. You've got to have your Bibles
when you come with us to study. That's what we do. What Gloria
said, we study. GLORIA: Ha-ha-ha. BILLYE: So
presentation as a bride. Let's start with Verse 25. "Husbands,
love your wives, even as Christ also loved the ecclesia, and
gave himself for her; that he might sanctify and cleanse her
with the washing of water by the word, that he might present her
to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or
any such thing--" GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: "--but that she
should be holy and without blemish. So ought men to love
their wives as their own bodies. He that loves his wife loves
himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but
nourishes and cherishes it, even as Christ the church. For--"
This is an important verse, "--we are members of his body,
of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause--" GLORIA: Praise
God. BILLYE: "--shall a man leave his father and mother, and
shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the
church," concerning the head and the body. GLORIA: Mm-hmm.
BILLYE: This is a great mystery. So we know here that he is
talking about the presentation--our presentation
as a bride and that as God sees us, He's the head, we're the
body, bless the Lord. And He's the last Adam, and it's rather
like the first Adam. Out of Adam's side--that word "tsela,"
T-S-E-L-A, which has been translated "rib," it's really
"side." So one side of--they were together, male and female,
but out of the side came the woman. And out of the rib and
side of Jesus came the bride. GLORIA: Mm-hmm. BILLYE: So we
are His bride. We are His Body. He is the Head, we are the Body.
We are His flesh and bones in the earth. Right there, in this
hand-- GLORIA: Yeah? BILLYE: --I've seen those hands laid on
a lot of people, Glo. GLORIA: They have. BILLYE: Yep. And when
you laid your hands on them, Jesus did-- GLORIA: Praise God.
BILLYE: --because you're the body. GLORIA: Yeah. I see that.
BILLYE: You're what He has. So His plan for us is not that we
be half back-slidden in the world, but that we be holy. What
does "holy" mean? Separated. That's the only mean of
it--meaning of it. GLORIA: Separated. BILLYE: "Holy" is
separated. That's the whole meaning. GLORIA: Amen. BILLYE:
If we had a thousand chairs in here, and we took one chair out
and we sat it over to the side, and we said, "Now, that chair is
going to be for the Lord--or Kenneth Copeland. That's Kenneth
Copeland's chair." It's holy. It's set apart. GLORIA: It's his
chair. BILLYE: It's his chair. So God has a bride in the earth,
and we're not supposed to be in bed with the world. GLORIA:
That's right. We're His. BILLYE: We're not supposed to be a
harlot bride. GLORIA: We don't sit in the world's chair. We sit
in His chair. BILLYE: We sit in His chair. And more and more
now, we're going to be separated. And the things of
earth are going to grow strangely dim and be overcome by
the light of His glory-- GLORIA: Praise God. BILLYE: --and grace
and even it's going to show on our faces. GLORIA: Praise God.
BILLYE: Hallelujah. GLORIA: Glory to God. That's exciting,
isn't it? BILLYE: Mm-hmm. GLORIA: The time we live in,
people, oh,goodness, there's nothing more important than
knowing what time it is in the Bible, in the Word, in our
day, and obeying. Billye and I will be right back.
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