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Brief introduction and welcome to Shri Ashutosh Bharadwaj ji.
Sunilji : Hello, how are you? Ashutoshji : Hello, I am good.
Sunilji : Ashutoshji, please tell me when did you start astrology?
Ashutoshji : I have started astrology when I was 11-12 year old. It has almost been 20 years and above.
Sunilji : Nowadays people of the age group 30 to 40 come on You Tube not even having experience of 10 years. By the time we try to reach your 20 years of experience we would take 80 years, almost impossible in this birth.
I know you and our friendship is quite deep. Please tell me, after having given so many years in astrology. You have studied a lot like in Banaras, Bhrighu jyotish and more; tell me how deep it is.
Ashutoshji : See, it is like Astrology is infinite, one cannot complete. We can only take a part of it, and be satisfied that whatever we got is more than enough. If we try to take whole of it, by mastering it. It is not possible.
Because I haven't done astrology in 20 years, I have traveled, went and met people and learnt from them. Who so ever, I came to know about in field astrology. I used to go after them.
Sunilji : You are from Patna. Darbhanga is a very well known and nice place there. Ashutoshji : Yes, correct. Sunilji : With lot of libraries there. Maharaja (King) of Darbhanga was also quite interested in astrology.
Ashutoshji : Yes, there is also a University named after him. Sunilji : You have studied a lot by mapping charts from hands (palm), people have also found it. So did you meet anyone out there of who is very good in making charts from hand palms?
Ashutoshji : There is a place here in Bihar called Rajgir. There was a pundit there, who is no more. He used to take 2 minutes to study hand, and keep a slate near him. He used to write something on the slate and within 2 minutes Lagna kundli (natal chart) used to be ready.
I used to see that to come to lagna(ascendant) of the chart. He used to study little finger(kanishtha) of the hand. Sunilji :What was his name? Ashutoshji :I don't remember his name as this was i met him 20 years ago and I was 12-13 years old at that time.
I had been to him 7-8 times, but he did not teach me anything about it. Sunilji : Nowadays we expect to learn everything in first meet only and if does not happen so, we say that the person does not know astrology. This is about today's generation
Ashutoshji : He was a simply dressed person living a very simple life. There used to be crowd of people to meet him, but he never charged anyone. And he used to only study hand and within 2 minutes he used to be ready with natal chart.
Sunilji : Did you get any idea, how he did it? Ashutoshji : He used to study little finger of both the hands and do some calculation to decide lagna(ascendant) of chart. And then mounts on the palms along with the lines on it to get the position of the planets.
Sunilji : You have met Lekhraji right? Ashutoshji : Yes, I have met him. Sunilji : According to me, he uses sun finger middle partition to get the details. Ashutoshji : Lekhraji uses entire palm.
Ashutoshji : Pundit from Rajgir, used to say that, there are 7 positions on the palm which can help to fix lagna(ascendant). There are 7 ways to find out.
Sunilji : Finally did he share his knowledge with anyone? Ashutoshji : No he did not. Sunilji : This is the only problem, that if knowledge is shared, people try to sell it.
When a person learns from his Guru(teacher) and teacher tell him not to sell this knowledge to anyone. But as I have seen from past 30-40 years, astrology is for fame and money and people can do anything in this. Ashutoshji : That is true.
Sunilji : Okay, tell me you have traveled Banaras a lot, any good astrologer you know. Ashutoshji : I have traveled and met many in Banaras, by calling one as best, I am not underestimating the rest. But the one I liked the best was Indunath Sharma. Sunilji : Yes, we know him.
Ashutoshji : Too good, I have been to him at least 40 to 50 times to learn. When I used to stay in Ranchi went to Banaras and now when I am in Patna, from Patna to Banaras.
Sunilji : How is he? I had heard he was not keeping well. Ashutoshji : Yes, he is fine now.
Sunilji : He has mastery in Horary astrology, if you go to meet him for the first time. He will tell you to think of a number between 20 and 30, then a flower and not to reveal it. He will take a slate do some calculations. Then turn around the slate and show you the number and flower, you did think of. There are many such in Rajasthan. But he is master in Horary charts.
Ashutoshji: Absolutely correct. Sunilji: Tell us some of his horary predictions which you have heard and seen yourself.
Ashutoshji : First of all, I would like to tell by almighty's blessings. I have learnt that method what you were talking about.
Sunilji : Yes, I know, you should not have told that on the video. It's okay, I know you had told me once 4-5 years back that you wanted to learn that method. And I had told you no. As I am not that much interested in astrology.
Sunilji: His theory of horary, or any predictions you have seen, you know the technical knowledge you can share right now.
Ashutoshji : If we talk about Budh Aditya yoga(combination of sun and mercury in the same house), is said to be good in quadrant and trine. Any benefic planet or any yoga(combination of planets) is auspicious in quadrant or trine, as said by many.
He (Indunath Sharma) was the first person to tell me this, when I had met him 10 years back, that Budh Aditya yoga gives good results only in 6/8/12th houses and nowhere else in the chart.
I used many of his technique in many of the charts and I found it correct. If you take K.N.Rao's chart, you will see Budh Aditya yoga in 12th house.
In January 1993, when he started with major period of mercury, at the same time he was chief guest for American Consulate For Vedic Astrology.
(K.N. Rao's Chart displayed on the screen). With mercury in 12th house when it's period started. It took him to foreign country and made him very much famous.
Mercury made him very famous and established him as a learned astrologer. Mercury is placed in 12th house but gave him good results, why? because of Budh Aditya yoga.
Sunilji : You have given an excellent example. In fact this was the period when K. N. Rao has written best of his books. Brilliant books,one of his masterpieces Nehru Dynasty, which people don't read. Every para has a technique.
People don't read much, as he has used only 4-5 charts. Ashutoshji : You will find secrets everywhere in the middle of that book. It is not so simple to read.
If anyone sees his chart, will say he his mercury period will be not good, as it is in 12th house. But as you can see, he had excellent. It is only because of Budh Aditya yoga.
Sunilji : The technique we are talking about. I remember when we were in Banaras, discussing about Kiran Bedi's chart. It also has of same type. I do not have her horoscope right now. Do you remember her horoscope?
Ashutoshji: Budh Aditya yoga is formed in 9th house in her horoscope and during 2015 elections, which she lost it was Sun Mahadasha (major period) for her. The Yoga could not give results even in 9th house .
And in case of K N Rao, it gave results in 12th house. So Budh Aditya yoga gives good results only in 6/8/12th houses. And no where else. It is an excellent combination.
Sunilji : Many people say that I have Budh Aditya yoga in my chart, but it is not seen working. Ashutoshji : You have it in 11th house in your chart. Sunilji: No, I am not talking about me, but common people. Also about Gaj Kesari yoga.
Sunilji : Many people also say that they have Gaj Kesari yoga in their charts, but not giving results. Can you tell us about any secret on this? If you have searched and found out anything about it.
Ashutoshji : Gaj Kesari yog can be fruitful only when Jupiter is in quadrant to moon. Gaj Kesari yoga is quite an elaborative topic which can be very well discussed some other time in a separate video, as it can take half an hour to hour long.
Sunilji : Tell us about Atmaramji. Ashutoshji : Oh he is a wonderful person with brilliant knowledge and lots of secrets with him on Yogini dasha
Have been to him many times. He is master in Yogini and will use only that and not the other ones like Vimshottari or Chara dasha etc.
He used to always tell one thing, which I will mention here. If one gets married during Sankata (Rahu's period as per Yogini Dasha) It cannot take place without physical violence(beating).
Sunilji : In India, during marriages many a times these things do happen. Ashutoshji: He used to say like that. Sunilji: Very nice thing you told us.
Ashutoshji: Like this way he used to tell for each Yogini. He has a different way of looking at it. It was a small thing, which I just told above.
Sunilji : Did he use any different calculations for Yogini or the normal one with 36? Ashutoshji : He uses the normal one with 36, but every time he changes the houses.
Sunilji : Means. Ashutoshji : every 12 years 3 times. He did not teach me, but I sat with him and learnt how he did it. Sunilji : What he used to do, I did not get 12 years 3 times?
Ashutoshji : He took every 12 years into 3 parts. If 12 years taken 3 times means one Yogini has ended 36 years. These 36 years he used to divide into 3 parts into 12 years each. And house used to change in every 12 years.
Sunilji : Which house? Ashutoshji : not sure about this, cannot say confirmed on that. But, I used see him changing every time the houses in 12 years. He will sometimes, take ascendant, 5th or 9th house and the remaining ones.
These people are such scholars, that if you have to learn something from them. It is not so easy. You have to go there, at least 100-200 times sit with them and observe how they do, you will learn it by yourself.
But nowadays there is shortage of time. People usually don't go and meet such people. Sunilji : Everyone want fast food, astrology, it has become You Tube astrology now.
Sunilji : You had spoken to me about Atmaramji, long time back. I don't remember whether it was Atmaramji or.. It was about Jupiter in 8th or 12th house. Was that told by Atmaramji? A different meaning of Jupiter in 8/12th house. Who had told you about that?
Ashutoshji :This was told by Indunath Sharma. If Jupiter is in 8th or 12th house such natives have "Pitri shrap" (ancestral curse). Means either their legacy with not continue or they will not be successful in any task undertaken.
For this Tripindi (religious offering for deceased ancestors in family) can be done, which will pacify Jupiter. And then one gets good results. This is applicable for natives with Jupiter in 6/8/12th houses, which is not a good position for Jupiter.
Sunilji : You had once used the word "Rishi Tulya"(Like a sage) for Jupiter who had told you about that? Atmaramji or whom? Probably you don't remember.
You travel by train, while travelling you meet many astrologers, so tell me did you happen to meet any good astrologer. Ashutoshji : Yes, once it so happened that, I was travelling from Banaras to Ranchi. I had my script in my hand.
It was astrological Sanskrit manuscript and I was just reading it. A sadhu(monk) was sitting on the opposite seat. When he saw a young boy reading a handwritten Sanskrit manuscript.
He came near me and then we were talking. The talks continued further. My ascendant sign was always a doubt in the beginning that is the reason I have met many such people who can tell about ascendant, can make chart from hands, or by face reading.
So when I met him, I came to know he had an exceptional knowledge , just by looking at my face he said about my ascendant and position of rest of the planets. Without taking any of my details of birth date or time.
Too good, I took his address from him. But I have forgotten it. And I could not meet him again. But he was the best amongst all I have met so far not comparable.
Sunilji : Please tell us about Madhubani pundit. What have you learnt from him? Ashutoshji : Pundit from Madhubani was great master of Jaimini astrology. His way of using Gochara (current transit) was beyond anyone's thinking.
How to use Ghati and Hora lagna of Jaimini, you will not find in any of the texts. He used to use all the lagnas mentioned. He used Gochara also very well.
He had a method of using Gochara, which I will share a little here today. Adhipati (lord) of 8th house in D1 chart, where ever placed in D12 in any sign and when Rahu visits that sign, native has to face some bad events in his life.
Sunilji : This is a very rare thing, as so far no one has done any work on Gochara D12. Nobody has even talked about it. I am telling this to the audience as well. Can you give an example on this, for the audience to understand?
Ashutoshji : If you see chart of Amitabh Bachchan. It has Aquarius ascendant. Sunilji : I will just open it. Can you see the chart? (Chart displayed on the screen). Ashutoshji : Yes.
It has Aquarius ascendant so 8th house has Virgo sign. Lord of Virgo, Mercury is in Gemini sign in D12. In the year 1982 in gochara Rahu was in Gemini and during the shooting of the movie Coolie.
Sunilji : It was in July 1982, Rahu was gochara in Gemini. So Rahu has come in 5th house in Natal chart as per Gochara. It was a fatal accident for him.
Sunilji : Very good. Ashutoshji: It can be more clearly explained with Rajiv Gandhi's chart. (Rajiv Gandhi's chart shared on the screen). Sunilji : You can see it. Rajiv Gandhi has Leo ascendant.
Ashutoshji : He has Leo ascendant, so 8th house will have Pisces sign. Lord of it, Jupiter is sitting in Sagittarius sign in D12 chart. When he died Rahu was in Sagittarius.
Suniji : His death, as far as I remember was May 1991. It was 11th or 21st May. My god! Rahu was in the Sagittarius. Ashutoshji : He had many such brilliant techniques. And to tell you the most I learnt was from him and he had shared his knowledge with me wholeheartedly.
Have learnt such things from him that common astrologers would be taken aback. Sunilji : What was the name of Pundit from Madhubani? Ashutoshji : I don't remember his name, everyone used to call him "Guruji", never asked about his name.
Sunilji : What else have you learned from Madhubani Pundit? Ashutoshji : As I had told you about Hora lagna. Sunilji: Yes, what we spoke couple of days before. Ashutoshji : Yes, that was his method only. Sunilji : No software can calculate hora lagna accurately.
Ashutoshji : We want everything to readymade and easily, but that is not possible. We need to certain calculations. Sunilji: That's correct. This is just for viewer about the hora lagna in the available software's.
There are total 5 types of hora lagna and Uppada lagna are also of 5 types. This is was in December 2007, when I was going to Madhura Krishnamurthy Shastriji, we were starting with a magazine.
Mentor told me that, if you are starting with magazine and want Jaimini to be in it. It can be only through Madhura Krishnamurti Shastri, as he has manuscripts. And today's Jaimini astrologers do not have manuscripts.
They do it mentally and not classical. Because people keep on saying K.N. Rao says 7 chara karaka and Sanjay Rath says 8 chara karaka, which one is correct? Forget what is correct, try finding out where in Jaimini commentary it is given as 7 and 8.
They should try to find out that first. And it is given in the starting of Parashara Hora Shastra as some people take it as 7 and some as 8. Ashutoshji : That is correct. Sunilji : People are not aware of this.
People either criticize Rao or Sanjay Rath. They should first read Parashari Hora Shastra and then Jaimini Manuscripts. Anyways, I had gone to meet Madhura Krishnamurthy Shastri in December 2007. He called me to meet him on December 30
This was altogether 4-5 days program. with my new year in a hotel room. I forgot his village name in Hyderabad, when even the flight was cancelled. Ashutoshji : Rajahmundry.
Sunilji : So when I met him, he appears like Lord Ganapathy himself. With bright, fair and handsome face. Ears big like lord Ganpati. That time I asked him only one question. Sir, how many types of Uppada lagnas are there?
He understood that this young boy is trying to master things, because so many people doing Jaimini astrology, do not know that there are various types of Uppada lagnas.
Even if you are doing it for 50 years, forget about the west in America leave them, even in India, astrologers do not know.
So he told me that there are 5. I called my mentor, he asked did you ask my question, I said yes. Mentor asked what did he reply. I said 5, mentor said he knows Jaimini. Mentor said like this only he knows Jaimini.
Anyways talking about hora lagna topic, from which we got slightly deviated. Ashutoshji was telling us that hora lagna has different calculations.And if you combine that with one particular dasha(planetary period) you get excellent results.
And if that dasha does not come in lifetime you cannot get those results. Ashutoshji : I would like to share one thing here that, nothing works wonder like Jaimini. If you know Jaimini sutras, means it has to work.
Sunilji : Our real Jaimini has not yet come out, so we got frustrated and finally left it. And anything special Madhubani Punditji has told you and you viewers can learn something from it.
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