The dictatorship government designates Maluf as the mayor of São Paulo.
The dictatorship government designates Maluf as the governor of São Paulo.
Maluf seeks support to run for president through indirect elections.
LUNCH WITH MALUF
Pa–pa–pa–pa–pa! You're on TV!
Hello there, dear Abril Video viewers.
Again with you, your reporter Ernesto Varela.
Last September, you've watched the premiere chapter
of the new series we're producing named:
The aspirants to the power.
Back then, we've been to Brasilia
and tried to talk to talk with the aspirants to the power
and some people who already own the power.
The day I went after for Mr. Paulo Maluf,
he didn't get quite well the spirit of the question I made
and something very awkward happened.
Let's check what happened in Brasilia. Play the VT!
– I'd like to talk to you for 5 minutes. – 5 minutes, it's not possible.
– 3 minutes? – I give you half-minute.
– Half-minute? – What TV do you work for?
TV Gazeta, from São Paulo, congressman…
Only half-minute, Mr. congressman?
Half-minute, it's exclusive, let's go.
I'm going to be sincere, I'm not a political reporter.
I've been around Brasilia today and I realized
people don't like you very much, sir;
they say you are corrupt,
that you're a thief…
Is that true, Mr. congressman?
That's it, my dear viewers.
Now it's October 1984, and we're here in São Paulo,
Brazil, at the SP Trade Center.
Congressman Paulo Maluf is going to have lunch with businessmen
and we'll see if we can have a couple of words with him.
Let's go, Valdeci. This time we must succeed.
Let's go, let's go.
This hubbub you're hearing here
it's on because one of the aspirants to the power has just arrived:
it's Mr. Paulo Salim Maluf.
Let's see if we manage to make
Mr. congressman any question.
The reporters keep on disputing to make a question.
I'll get in line to see what happens.
Dr. Pau–
Well, dear listeners, I sill couldn't manage
to talk to the aspirant to the power
Dr. Paulo Salim Maluf before his lunch.
He's having lunch soon
and I'll try to find me a little table,
maybe we can have a little piece lunch here too.
Let's go.
Is someone sitting here?
This one is fine, Valdeci.
Sit down! We're about to lunch here at São Paulo Trade Center.
Behave yourself, Valdeci. This is a fancy place.
Come on, sit down. You can sit now.
What dish do we have for lunch today
here at the São Paulo Trade Center?
Today we're serving a belvedere steak with Italian funghi,
risotto and sautés potatoes.
– Italian funghi? – Yeah, Italian.
– Imported ones? – Yeah, imported ones.
How much will the lunch cost here, today?
Oh, unfortunately I don't have any idea.
Do we have to pay? Does the press have to pay for it?
No, the press is our guest.
– Who's paying it? – The company that's organizing it, you know…
Thank god…
Can we use that microphone, Tonico?
Can we use it? Give it to me! Can I show it?
I'll pretend… I'll pretend I'm using it…
Are Rede Globo's lights on?
We're talking now with Tonico,
my fellow reporter at Rede Globo.
Tonico, how many times do you interview
congressman Paulo Maluf in a month?
Lately, I think I do it
twice a week lately.
Eight times a month.
Why do you interview him so often?
Does he always have interesting things to say?
Neither he has interesting things to say,
nor I have interesting questions to make.
It's just a drag.
– Why do you keep doing this? – I get paid to do that.
Oh, do you get paid for that?
And how do you come up with new questions
to keep the viewers busy?
No, that was a joke, because today, for example,
we had the demonstration thing to talk about,
all that happens in one day.
One just has to have the patience to make the same question
in 5, 6 different ways.
It's not just about a silly question,
it's about making it 5 different times
in 5 different ways.
Is it always the same?
It's always the same question, till he answers something.
Dr. Paulo, what kind of philosophy or philosopher guide your steps?
He doesn't want to talk with the reporters.
Let's go after him, Valdeci.
He has just met his brother and kissed him, look.
Congressman, what philosophy or philosopher guide your steps?
My private philosophy is a Christian one.
It's a roman apostolic catholic philosophy
of a religious man who learnt the catechism as a child,
someone who have read the bible and studied apologetics.
In your opinion, what are Jesus Christ's
most important words?
To love thy neighbor as thyself.
You just mentioned the earthly life, but you consider yourself a Christian.
Where are going after you die?
I'm pretty sure that,
since I worked a lot for the benefit of others,
I'm pretty sure that god will spare me a place in heaven.
How many steps far from– Congressman?
He's already gone, dear viewers.
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