One life and business strategist his audio and video programs have sold more
than 50 million copies more than four million people around the world have
attended one of his live events and at a few of them I appeared with his first
book in nearly 20 years money mastered the game seven simple steps to financial
freedom he's here with us today thanks for coming to see here why is it taking
you 20 years to write it another book I've had a few day jobs I got a dozen
companies about every four days I'm on an airplane going somewhere I go to 15
countries who seen about a quarter million people here and live events
which I love I'll tell you what pushed me over the edge Larry is 2008 when I
started seeing people losing their homes in mass when I start people losing half
their net worth and I knew it was because of manipulation and I grew up
there I know you know very poor financially like no money at
Thanksgiving and no money for food so it wasn't statistics to me and so I thought
the government's gonna do something after two years and nothing happened I
thought I'm gonna be part of the solution up a problem and most people
don't know it but I've been coaching Paul Tudor Jones one of the top 10
financial traders literally in the history of the world he's not lost money
for 21 straight years I worked in 21 straight years so he imagined the tech
crash he made money 2008 lost 50% he made 28% so I thought if I could take
everything I've learned from him Larry and interview 50 of the smartest people
in the world hedge fund guys guys that started with nothing became billionaires
Nobel laureates and put it into a simple action plan but a mom could use that a
baby boomer could use that a kid getting out of school well anyone could use to
turn things around and be a great project so it's been four years but I'm
really proud to bring it out and that's now starting to really touch people what
do you mean we've been manipulated well most people know that what happened in
2008 was a very small number of people made some decisions that had nothing to
do with the markets they took undue risks and unfortunately we bailed them
all out bank mostly banks but some of those same individuals have put back in
charge if anybody wants to really know the story they can watch inside job it's
probably the best documentary ever made about it but when you're done if that's
what pushed me over the edge of that specific documentary when they got an
award that Damon did the voice-over but at the end you neither want to kill
somebody you're sorry you're totally depressed because there's no solutions
and I want to do something at solution where I could level the playing field
where I can help people see that you could take the best of what Wall Street
knows and show Main Street how they could really apply it for their life and
that's what this books about Steve Forbes good friend of ours said Robbins
has produced a book that will appeal to both the beginner and the most
sophisticated money jockey overseeing multi billions of dollars in assets if
there were a Pulitzer Prize for investment books this one would win
hands down is she one of the people you interviewed yes yes he's amazing that's
amazing quote I saw that he sent that out like it's a blog about about the
book but yeah what's unique about this book Larry is we're not hearing from
Talking Heads on television who are pumping you up about what to do and this
is not me pumping you up saying what to do there's not a word in here that's
from me around finances it's me investing the best in saying what does
the average person do go from where they are to where they want to be and I think
the biggest mistake people make is you hear people say you know I don't have
any money and it's true but if you look at what makes people wealthy it's not
winning the lottery those people are usually broke the sports stars you and I
both know ten years later often a very broke what makes it has taken a small
amount of money and compounding it and the best example that I give is there's
a gentleman work for UPS his name is Theodore Johnson he never made more than
fourteen thousand a year Larry that's the most he ever made but at the age of
75 he was worth seventy million dollars now how the hell do you do that well a
friend of his said to him you just say you have no money but if the government
came in and taxed you you'd never see the money and the government would get
it so we're gonna put a 20% tax you're never gonna see it it's gonna go on
investment account over 50 plus years that made him 70 million dollars so you
talk to Warren Buffett say what made you the richest man in the world he says
three things one living in America where the opportunity is he said two good
genes living a long time and three compound interests and most of us know
about it but we don't use it so I showed people how to get started with that you
don't want to own an Apple phone if you don't know an Apple or better yet the
index all the best companies in the world
now you're used to telling people what to do yes in this book you're learning I
ask you were not a financial expert working well I had a certain amount of
expertise truthfully because I worked with Paul Tudor for 21 years so I had
quite an inside look at things but the biggest education I got was how little I
knew what surprised you the most I'd say fees was the biggest piece I'd
say the other thing is what what was it that these people were obsessed with two
obsessions they have the first obsession ironically is not losing money you think
that these people take these giant risks Larry and then that's how they became
billionaires actually they do something now they all are focused on not losing
money because I know they're gonna be wrong but then they have a second focus
which is they call it asymmetrical risk or a big word it just means they take
the least amount of risk possible to get the biggest reward so Paul Tudor Jones
for example has a rule and when I start working with him he hadn't used it for a
while and he brought it back out he's used it for 28 years 20 21 years he
asked himself if I'm gonna invest this dollar am i certain I'm gonna make five
and I risk it all in risking five and I'm wrong I can risk another dollar
still be okay I can be wrong I could be wrong four out of five times and do okay
and he's not wrong four out of five times is they learn when they lose they
all learn when they lose or they all they usually have a strategy to protect
themself from losing that's really one of the biggest peak of the secrets for
them but you say this is for anybody I'm giving an inner-city kid in Philadelphia
his father ran away his mother is cleans houses yes he can
learn he can learn because the first thing we all have to do is we have to
become an owner and investor no matter how little money we have that's why I
use the example of Theodore Johnson because it's so important because if you
just don't see it and you put it aside it'll change I'll tell you another thing
people can do say they have no money I am leaving all these behavioral
economists these are the guys who spend their entire life trying to figure out
why is it in human nature we mess up so much fun money and how do we trick
ourselves to do the right thing and one of them came up with his genius plan
which has been proven now for 15 years it's called save more for tomorrow so
you say you have no money today this young man is just getting started
the best thing you could do is take a percentage and it's a tax he doesn't
notice it it goes straight to his account but if somebody right now says I
can only put outside 5% 3% they went this group of people and blue collar
workers and said put aside three and a half percent you'll never miss it it'll
be gone before you know it but here's what you do you go to your employer and
say every time you get a raise three and a half percent of that is gonna go of
your money's gonna go straight to the same account you're never gonna
so if you got a 10% raise you're gonna really see a six and a half percent
raise but the rest is gonna take care of your future these families that did this
in this Midwestern town over ten years the average person was saving 14% 65%
we're saving 18% that's like the same guy from UPS when you do that over as
many years as you lived you got all you got quite a fortune on your hands what
happens when leaders around the world call you up for advice you'll find out
next we're back with Tony Robbins his new book is money master the game seven
simple steps to financial freedom any common thread that runs through all
these successful people gosh I don't threat of anybody that worked with a
successful financial athletes people in politics its hunger you know you and I
both know intelligence is pretty damn valuable tool but there are a lot of
very smart people who can't fight their way out of a paper bag and then when you
find somebody has that Hunger the hunger that doesn't go away that hunger to be
more to do more to give more that hunger that never ends you know that's how you
get these people that are the best in the world at whatever they do and so if
you can I think everybody has that hunger but for some people it's been
asleep for a long time because they're afraid they're afraid that I'm gonna get
hungry I'm gonna try I'm gonna fail and so it's human nature to protect yourself
from the fear by just lowering your expectations but one things I've learned
is you get what you tolerate you get what you tolerate yourself you get rid
you tolerate in your life and sooner or later we sometimes hit a point we say
not another day another hour this is done I'm not walking this way I'm not
talking this way I'm not living this way I'm not gonna be in this relationship
anymore I'm gonna change it and when people do that that's the beginning of a
breakthrough when you advise that President Clinton yes
you didn't advise him on whether he should sign the salt treaty no or
whether he should pass this bill now of course what would presidents call upon
you for well you know what people call upon me for unless they talk about it I
don't talk about it cuz that's why I get the phone call because they want that
privacy but overall at that stage the first time I got the phone call was one
year after he was in office it was Christmastime and he asked me if I would
come to Camp David and talk and it wasn't hard to figure out the challenge
he'd lost both houses of Congress he'd lost from you know
it's the economy stupid to not having a clear agenda in terms of the American
people knowing what he's about and he actually called me in a mutual friend of
our Peter Gruber's house and said you know what if you come visit with me and
I said it'd be a privilege mr. president I'd be happy to come you want tonight
you know Christmas I said I'll be happy to do it but I said I'm not a fan and
you know Peter look at me like are you crazy mouthing to me it's the president
itíd States and I said I'm not being a harsh present anyway I just want you now
if you want me to say what you want to hear I'm the wrong guy and I'm not
saying what I'm saying is right but I if you want another opinion I'm happy to
come and he laughed and he was great and you know we're friends to this day but
at that time I was like how do I get out of this rut that I'm in where I feel out
of control where the media's running my story that was really the issue that was
being dealt with and I'm not a media expert but I know one thing if you don't
do anything the story will change if you're the present United States right
but you want to do things you got to decide how are you gonna communicate
what are you gonna do it you got to stop blaming what's outside yourself cuz
things are unfair the media can be the more than fair the media could be unfair
we all know the media's like people people are fair people unfair so well
for the most part you wouldn't get where you were without the media you certainly
with Paris in that state so helping him to decide what he was gonna do at that
stage also later in his life you know what he was gonna be present anymore
what do I do I'm you know 51 years old where am I gonna go those are the types
of things these what he's done with his life since since leaving presidency is
unbelievably it's more influenced today than they did back then he'd be elected
in a sweet home in a heartbeat and you met Obama okay I guess I have what you
think of brilliant smart his attack had a passionate conversation with him with
a large number of billionaires in the Rovers biggest supporters saying you
know I voted for the first time if you are gonna do this again how are you
gonna deal with a divided country this is right before the second election and
I said I'm not being harsh you're gonna probably win anyway but I really love to
know because you've demonized the other side they demonized you but you're the
leader right leaders got to go first you know and second question I said is why
didn't you take simpson-bowles because you had both guys to the table willing
to do it on the most difficult issue of our time so I got a second dish is my
question in the room because it was a fundraising room with a quarter million
dollars to be in the room for each person but the president
great and he said well Tony you look he said I've never demonized anybody and I
said okay he goes that's never what I've done and he said secondly he said I'm
simpson-bowles your friends on Wall Street you know they wouldn't like you
know giving up the remainder interest and I said I don't have friends on Wall
Street and he said and the American people wouldn't like the mortgage
deduction going away he said I have a better plan I said mr. president you do
have a better plan probably I can I believe it but the problem is your own
party is not voting for it so it's not better if it can't be passed and I think
the biggest challenge in leadership for anyone today is how do we get past right
versus wrong it used to be in your old enough Nanaimo enough to remember when
guys would fight like hell on the House floor and I think I'll have a beer
together but today they don't talk to each other
it's right it's like you're evil and I think I had the chance to meet President
Gorbachev and spend three or four hours with him on a plane I took him on a
flight to meet President George senior and a group of people President meteor
on and whole group of people about hundred of us together so he spent this
time and I said when do the Cold War end and he gave me this
you know speech that he's given a million times and I said three more
hours if win to the Cold War I want to know the moment in minutes I said you're
not getting by with us teasing him he started to laugh so he finally fought
for a while and he said something I think is really instructive about
leadership he said the Kolbert ended with the end of demonization and I said
what was the moment that ended and he said let me think and they thought for
awhile and he started laughing and hitting just you know side of his arm
leg like this laughing and he's talking through his translator and he said I can
tell you the moment he said President Reagan was lecturing me on the evils of
communism he called us the evil empire and I was lecturing him in the evils of
supposed capitalism and he said we're getting madder and madder back and forth
back and forth at one point he said Reagan stared at me he said I could feel
it was so mad and he just stood up and he walked into four steps away from me
and they turned around came back and said hi my name's Ron can I call you
Mikhail and shook his head like and he started laughing because you had to love
the guy and he said that Reagan then also said to him I want you to bring
some Russian children to America he knew that would be tough love children and
three evil empire that wouldn't be normal and that break of demonization is
where they started making conversations first time human beings
Tony's childhood and how it informed his career
when we get back the book money master the game boy Steve Forbes calls it a
goldmine of money-making information money mastered the game seven simple
steps to financial freedom secrets from the world's greatest financial minds
from the number one best-selling author Tony Robbins want to divert a little
sure enough people in despair what do you say to the people of Ferguson the
black people of Ferguson well I think it's the nation right now Ferguson isn't
paying but I think all nations in pain I mean you see these you know riots
breaking out and also people peacefully working all over the country I think
well you have to say as we hear you I think every person this country has to
know whether or not you were sitting in that courtroom whether you're not you
think it was fair or not even if it was a fair legal process this has happened
so many times that people aren't there threshold and the only good that I can
find in it is most things don't change till they hit a threshold now someone
who's violent and destroys an African American store in Ferguson under the
excuse of this to me that's unconscionable whether it be white black
brown purple I don't care you don't hurt other people because you were hurt
that's especially in that situation that's just hurtful but people white
black brown people all over the country and all over the world saying this has
to stop I think that's a damn good sign I think social media has helped to
spread it and I think the question is the people that are serious what do we
do I think it's a real test of leadership for the president for police
officers and police organizations to see how do we change this perception and
reality because there's a combination of both or wouldn't be out there and what
do we in our local communities do to make those changes actually happen so
it's not an easy task not a simple task but I think being at threshold is
painful this is that's the only good I think out of horrific situations some
good must come and that's the good that can come from this now you took a bad
upbringing a tough upbringing and made it good you had a mother who had
problems alcoholic did that do you think that drove you oh there's no question I
mean I hate suffering I hate to see anybody suffer but that's because I've
experienced it and I've so many people I care about and I mean
you know this book I donated all the profits this book in advance and I
didn't do that for some positioning I've been feeding people I was fed at 11
years old we had no money no food it changed my life not cuz somebody gave me
the food it changed my life because my parents have always said that strangers
don't give a damn so I had evidence that somebody gave a damn
and so I promised I'd do something so at 17 I fed two families then for the ruler
alone is challenging right at 17 I was but but I started out feeding at that
time and I'm you know I fed forty two million people over my life but I
decided when I did this they cut food stamps eight point seven billion a year
ago and I said look people can't get rid of two million people just pretend
they're not there I work with all these organizations so I called up and I said
feeding America they're the best organization the largest reach in this
country for feeding people and I said if I need all the donation of all this in
advance what could I do they say you could feed ten million people I said I'm
in but as the years now I've gotten more inspired so I'm writing an additional
check so today I launched it on givingtuesday and we're feeding I'm
feeding 50 million people myself 50 million meals and then I'm offering
anybody who wants to come in I'm matching what they're doing so you feed
a hundred million people and I just want to bring attention to how did you get
into motivating people how did that start I've spoken at some of your
Congress I just bring you my fact I a why am I here but you are you a wild at
these things I mean you really get them going yes how'd you start why'd you stop
doing that I just I started reading when I was just a kid I I needed something to
feed my mind and I wanted I had all the suffering I didn't have a way to skate
books were my escape that's why I love books so much it's like I could I could
learn from somebody from another century I could learn by another person's life
experience and then I started to do some speaking and touching people that way
but honestly it's never been motivation for me it's always been strategy because
motivation without strategies like a warm bath you know you should take a
bath at you're gonna be dirty regularly you need inspiration
but it's strategy too but I know you're never gonna hear the strategy unless we
can move you I mean I do a weekend that's fifty hours so Oprah comes and
says Tony I love you to death but no one says two more than three hours I can't
do it 12 hours later stay on her chair look in the camera go and that's one of
the greatest experience of my life or usher you know comes to me is a story I
can't do 50 hours dude I just can't you know 50 hours later he's I laughed my
ass off this is one Volkers in my life so I've learned a way
to refine the process to move people so that they act if you just get pumped up
what good does it have so this book is all these specific strategies here's
what to do here's what Ray Dalio says largest hedge fund on earth I say to him
don't inspire me tell me if your kids couldn't get any of your money not on a
dime and you were gonna show them what to do
what would you show them what would you tell them II said Tony I've spent 10
years of my life for finding this process
all my money's in it it's called my all-weather strategy because it works
the stock market goes up or down he said I've tested it back to 1925 it
makes money eighty-five percent of the time so he tells me the strategy is
quite complex and when you show it to the average financial person they go
that'll never work because they don't they're not ready on you they haven't
figured out a hundred sixty billion dollars to manage it takes five billion
ten years ago net worth and a hundred million for him to talk to you now he
won't do that for even that for any amount of money but he spent three hours
with me at the end he shows me this formula I said you know what this is
great but you showed me how to make a chocolate cake it's very inspiring
you've said use some chocolate use some sugar yeah but I need to I need the
actual numbers or no one's gonna be able to act on this they're never gonna
figure this out on their own and he said Tony that's my secret sauce he that's
how I get billions of dollars I said yeah but you've been taking money in ten
years I said you're a generous man you've given what half your net worth
you're gonna give away give me in the form and give it to me that's tease him
he gave it to me it's in the book it's one performance and when you test
it over the last 75 years it's been successful eighty-five percent a year at
time year by year and the designs that's lost till one lost one point six percent
on average the biggest loss is less than four percent in a world of the markets
go up 50 percent down back as well she's gonna make people money it'll make
people money the beautiful part of it is they don't have to pick ray they can
decide who they want to follow because I give you the strategies of all the best
people are all the people rich or did you talk to some economist I talked to
economist I talked to Nobel laureates like a couple of necessarily rich but
wise people so I want to make sure I saw both sides so I chose to build it but I
really wanted to put most my focus on those that are started with nothing and
built real fortune none of these will born rich not a single one Tony will
answer your social media questions after this the book money master the
game will be right back the back with Tony Robbins the new book money master
the game he doesn't make a penny from it right that's correct you know a upset
Wow honey the energy do you ever lose your energy do you ever go down well
sure I get exhausted I get mad I get tired I'm a human being but it's like an
athlete you know you built your muscles so it's there for you it doesn't last
what used to last one as a kid you know a month might last me a few minutes or
an hour you know for something about nature a couple of social media
questions link there Custis on Instagram what do you believe is the most
dangerous assumption people are making about financial freedom around the world
oh my gosh there's so many I think the biggest thing is putting yourself in a
place where finance is so complex that you just trust somebody else to do it
for you and yet it's sometimes people say oh how
am I gonna solve this I mean that's why I wrote the book is it's like you can
hire a lawyer but you better understand that your life is on the line you can
hire someone to teach your child but you better know it's your child and you
gotta still do it you can you can go listen to someone about religion but you
have to make your own choices and I think we have to educate ourselves
because otherwise you'll wake up and there's nothing here I think right now
people just assuming that the markets gonna go up forever we've had a very
long bull market here coming up on six years so I mean this is a situation that
doesn't go on forever and you have to have a way to protect yourself and
that's part of asset allocation which we talked about
Jagr barrier on Twitter what were the most impactful lessons you learned while
writing this book I would say gosh there's so many I would say the biggest
thing is seeing what's really possible that somebody with vision and caring and
who's willing to work their tail off to learn can take small risks and become
incredibly successful my assumption was somebody like Neal sure Richard Branson
you'd soom you know you see him out there taking these life risks he risks
his life but he doesn't risk in business I mean if you look at Richard I believe
when he was opening up virgin the Virgin air big rich to buy these giant
airplanes but his question always is what's the worst case now they were
protected and so you know he made a deal what I believe was Boeing if I remember
correctly to see he could give back those planes if over X amount of period
of time didn't work out he's covering his
downside the average American isn't doing that so I think it was it blew my
mind to see that these people are risk takers but it's very calculated risk
it's small risk with big rewards that's what set him apart any of them women yes
Mary Kelly Erdos is just a genius she's out of JPMorgan manages 2.5 trillion
with a team dollars moved up from nothing built it straight
up extraordinary human being the interviews in there with her as well
Silvera Kela what's your favorite book of all time and what are your morning
routines Shah the Arabic all times hard that I've been asked that before so I
have thought about it and I think it's hard to pick one but if I had to pick
one I'd say man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl the experience every one
of us in our lives are gonna experience extreme stress losing a family member
I've been told you know tumor in your brain financial stresses whatever it is
but when you see the ultimate stress if somebody went through Ashe wits and how
they survived and how the people that did survive made it and you read it in
first-person account you realize you have no problems and it's just a
beautiful book and a remind you life is not about being happy it's not about fun
it's not about money it's about meaning and even in your suffering there could
be meaning but I'd say my routines is my life is different every day but there's
one thing I do constantly I call it priming every day I get up and I take a
minimum of 10 minutes and it's it's my meditation but it was a meditative
quality and I sit and I do something physically to change my state I usually
jump in cold or hot water I have these if I'm in my home's out of these 56
degree cold plunges I do to just change everything
ready and on I use a river when I'm in Sun Valley but the point of matter is I
do a radical change I do this breathing pattern and then I take ten minutes and
I do three and a half minutes of feeling associated for all things I'm grateful
for not just thinking intellectually but feeling it because when you're grateful
there's no fear when there's grateful there's no anger you can't have those
emotions simultaneously and so cultivating or priming it so it's always
on the edge for me I'm always filling that daily is important to me and then I
do three and a half minutes of focused on healing and strengthening the best
parts of me and the same for my friends it's kind of like a prayer and then I do
three minutes of the top three things I call them two three to thrive that I
want to accomplish and I see them as and when I'm done about 10 minutes I'm
ready to rock and roll that's Scott Edwards JB how did Jim Rohn affect you
Jim Rohn was my original mentor and he just he shaped my life philosophically
he's the guy that taught me really that for things to change you got to change
for things get better you got to get that what does he do he's passed away a
few years ago I was at his funeral so but he was a seminar speakers the first
I don't know what a seminar was and a friend of mine I went to work for
somebody I was in high school 17 years old and I was working on the
side of trying make money to be able to support my family and I was moving
furniture for the span and and my father said he used to be such a loser and now
he's so successful you know so when you're a kid you can say these things I
said my dad's are just such a loser you know you're so successful he said what
and so how did you do it because I went to this seminar so it was $35 he
explained it was three and a half hours and about time I was making $40 a week
as a janitor and I took a week's pay and I went to the seminar I listen this man
who I eventually went to work for and so he powerfully in flips me
philosophically a little game wealthy if you only knew I just throw some
questions - who's the first girl you ever kissed oh my gosh
her name was Pam I can't member a last name but I remember the holy
how old were you I was five I what's a superpower you'd love to have
invisibility me too a time a period you'd love to go back
and visit the Renaissance would you rather hit a home run or catch
a touchdown pass oh my gosh that's a tough one
gosh I think I hit home I'll be pretty awesome me too
favorite author Victor Franklin our Victor tango probably yeah what
motivates you my wife my wife is the greatest gift in my life no exaggeration
she's given me more joy than anything I've ever experienced outside of my kids
and my work person you look up to I look up to people that stand up and I look at
people in business I've some dear friends that are people that have just
shown up but I also look at people historically Maya Angelou is an
extraordinary person I had the privilege of meeting you know Mother Teresa the
privilege of meeting Nelson Mandela I still look up to them best thing about
your job complete diversity it's different every day one day I'm
okay with a you know a celebrity athlete and other day I'm working with a child
I'm working with somebody of suicidal I'm doing an event with five or ten
thousand people it's it's pretty amazing hidden talent hidden talent gosh
being quiet it's getting pet peeve people that are uncaring to other human
beings it drives me crazy me too music on your iPod oh my gosh what's on there
now I think I was listening to see you actually did he right now time travel or
space travel time travel favorite vacation spot Fiji in the best etherion
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