we have a history of you know not great pardons I think the president is trying
to send a message to some people who potentially might be involved in the
Russia investigation Eric Holder taking a swipe at President Trump there over
his use of presidential pardons this as the disgraced former attorney general
sparks rumors of a potential 2020 run while in New Hampshire joining us with
his reaction former White House press secretary author of the upcoming book
the briefing politics the press and the president is the one and only Sean
Spicer good morning Sean good morning guys you know when he talks about
controversial pardons I seem to remember the same Eric Holder was Deputy Attorney
General for Bill Clinton in the middle of the mark rich pardon yeah that's
right I mean I think there's a little bit of revisionist history going on by
former attorney general I also think like let's call it what it is he's in
New Hampshire at the politics and eggs breakfast this he along with every
single Democrat who's ever held elective office is thinking about running in 2020
and he's trying to position himself in a unique space because there's there's
gonna be so little oxygen in the room when it comes to their first debate so
III think it's a pretty blatant that he's just trying to appeal to the you
know the extreme left of the Democratic base in advance of the 2020 election
well Sean it's not just sorry it's not just mark rich but it's also of course
the Obama administration pardon Bradley Manning out the door isn't there a
difference between pardoning at the last minute where you can't be held
accountable and here you've got a president saying I'm pardoning right now
when I'm still gonna be up for re-election in the middle of my term
isn't he being more transparent and open about his prerogatives sure I think
that's part of it but I think the other thing is that look what I find so
fascinating is it's one thing to talk about the merits of the person that's
being parted in the crime they committed whether they serve their time and their
real mores full and they they have asked for forgiveness et cetera but I think
what's may what's really unique about these set of circumstances is regarding
these pardons is that everyone's speculating about what they mean and
trying to you know understand what what crystal ball they may look through
whereas not looking at him on the merits of it when we talk about Marc Rich or
Bradley Manning or except we talked about who they were whether or
not they deserved a pardon what crime they committed we've lost that
discussion and these set of pardons and Eric Holder another are wildly
speculating about what this might mean and what we should be reading into all
of this except for the fact that these individuals the president you know feels
as though they were untreated on justly or that they had served their time or a
myriad of other reasons that he chose to pardon them but we've lost the
discussion about whether or not the person who's been pardoned was pardoned
you know had paid their time they were remorseful etc and go to on these wild
goose chases of speculation about what they may or may not mean in terms of
something in the future I think that's that's kind of what's what's been lost
in this whole discussions in our media landscape crazy watching Holder there
though I am reminded just quickly I love your take on this if he were to run for
president who he has behind him is Barack Obama the two of them were thick
as thieves he called him Barack Obama's wingman it makes me think about where we
are right now with Jeff Sessions and President Trump and how upset the
president seems to be with Jeff Sessions how he says he wish he never hired him
to begin with do you look at the Eric Holder and Obama is that the way it
should be should you be in sort of a partnership as the attorney general in
the president well I think it's a lot deeper than that the Attorney General
should be somebody that the president can rely on that is the nation's top law
enforcement officer I think there's a very different set of circumstances here
in terms of whether or not the Attorney General should have told the president
who's going to recuse himself and made that very clear before he took the job
and went through the nomination process but I do think that you should have an
attorney general that is loyal to you that understands the relationship and
the events that are coming up and what it's going to take to go forward so if
you come into a job and immediately recusing yourself the question is are
you the best person for that job to provide counsel to the administration
the president the American people I think that's a decision that that each
president has to make for themselves as well as each candidate for attorney
general briefly played political stalked picker for me if you will for a second
is attorney is Eric Holder a viable candidate in 2020 oh absolutely
there's no question about it I think he's got a unique space as he just
demonstrated he can talk about you know an area of service in a niche in terms
of pardons and justice that no one else can because of his back
and I think when you're gonna have a ton of elected officials running who talk
about you know their unique set of experiences he carves out a very unique
space and remember because I truly do believe that you're gonna have 20 25
people credible candidates running on the DM side you don't need to get 30 40
50 percent out of the gate you just need 7 8 9 10 percent and you're a very
viable candidate by the way I do think the next segment III with this whole
ms-13 whether or not people di I heard that tease and I'm thinking myself oh my
gosh I'm glad I'm married cuz it's stay tuned it's it's some interesting stuff
Shawn spies right Roseanne enjoy read both under fire for
hateful rhetoric this week Roseanne Show cancelled but MSNBC is okay with Reed's
apology so is there a double standard at play we're gonna debate that's next plus
the 30 year old evicted millennial he's finally left his parents houses that is
bike in the back of a car but but not without causing one last dispute over
his Legos Legos are not the real thing
welcome back time now for your news by the numbers first three oh four that's
the percentage of US airstrikes targeting Isis just last month the surge
carried out by operation roundup successfully obliterating 280 Isis known
areas trained camps otherwise along the iraq-syria border next 440 that's how
many illegal immigrants were put back onto the streets in New York City
because of the city's sanctuary policy is flagging hundreds of criminals as
importation targets from January to April but city officials would only hold
those of the mayor's office deemed too dangerous the rest were left free and
finally ten that's how many times how many types of cancer scientists say a
new blood test can detect years before someone gets sick it works by picking up
fragments of DNA released by fast-growing cancer cells now that's an
important development it sounds for marketing thanks Pete this week multiple
TV personalities coming under fire for hateful rhetoric ABC taking swift action
canceling roseanne sitcom after her racist tweet targeting Valerie Jarrett
this as MSNBC's Joey Reid is now under scrutiny yet again as more of our
hateful blog posts come to light the TV host has now apologized but is their
network doing enough and is there a double standard at play here to debate
Democratic strategist Antoine C right and chairman of the american
conservative union match slap good morning gentlemen good morn he had Matt
do you think there's a double standard here yeah not shocking to any of us
there's always a double standard when it comes to the treatment of people who are
conservatives or who support conservative candidates and you know
Roseanne Barr got the death sentence for saying something putrid and repulsive
and it doesn't seem to happen on the other side that being said II D whatever
happened to someone apologizing and people simply accepting the apology if
Joey Reid really means the apology I think I think that's a meaningful thing
for her to do and people should accept it antwuan what say you well the only
reason we're even having this discussion because there are people on the right
who refused to reject and denounce racism bigotry and hate
and quite frankly the red meat white right wing tone down racial rhetoric is
politically popular on the right and instead of denouncing that you have
people on the right who rather distract with something Jory said ten years ago
who quite frankly was just in a political opinion and as she has said
and as many people around her has have indicated she has evolved over time and
so it it's very unfortunate that we have in this discussion but okay buy the
right pardon me I'm gonna let you jump in on the joy read part but let me
rewind a little bit you're you're claiming that people on the right are
not denouncing racism I heard Roseanne get pilloried by everyone from left to
right and rightly so for saying something racist including match slap so
okay you're saying it's okay not true let me be clear the President of the
United States refused to denounce and reject racism bigotry and hate and the
starts from the top and there are a lot of other people who are in support of
Roseanne says she shouldn't have been fired saying her comments were not wrong
saying justifying her comments as if they were okay and we we all know that
they're not Matt yeah I think this is so interesting joy Reid said hateful and
terrible things things about gays things about Jews in the State of Israel things
about almost every group you can imagine and it was ten years ago it was before
she was a national political or at least media figure and and I think it's okay
to say look this happened in her past and she apologizes but don't you love it
what they do with Donald Trump Antoine you guys bring up Matt everything that
ever happened in the past and you try to equate him with being a racist you try
to what I said I said he refused to denounce or reject racism bigotry and
hate instead deflect it on the issue that's real number two if we wanted
policies Matt if we want to do with anything Matt if we want to go into
digging it past remember this president and your vice president has some things
in their past and I don't think the American people would agree with now I
don't want to talk about racism okay let's talk about today
let Matt talk yeah let's talk about Donald Trump's policies Jay this is the
problem when we talk about what it is about policies Angela let me talk I
think it's important to know what matters about Donald Trump's heart is
the policies he's implementing the lowest african-american unemployment
rate in our history Thank You Braco unemployment rate for Hispanics in our
history the fact that nobody calls them anti-semitic because they realize his
policies towards Jews in the State of Israel are historic with movie mantasy
and in Jerusalem and the Iran black man policies mat SS whole countries Mexicans
rapists and thugs I can go on and on about him attacking prominent
african-american leaders and so if you really want to talk about policies let's
address rhetoric not necessary policy because this discussion is about
rhetoric between the two new to TV hosts all right Kanye West and Candace Owens
bring it all my god Antoine speaking let you all right Matt bless your heart both
of you Candace oh and speaking of her she's coming up live right here on Fox
and Friends so we're gonna let her weigh in as well
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