Game Brain: The prevalence of skateboarding games has been in steady decline over the past
few years, the untimely demise of EA skate series and the multiple disasters
that plagued the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater franchise has left the gaming landscape
wide open for a new skateboarding game to lead the way. Session is the debut
title from recently established indie studio Crea-ture Studios, set to release
into early access in May 2018, session promises to be a hardcore simulation
heavy skateboarding experience with the dual analog control scheme not too
dissimilar to EA skate in December 2017 session celebrated a successful
Kickstarter campaign raising over one hundred and sixty thousand dollars from
almost three and a half thousand backers Marc-Andre Huede and Vincent Da Silva
are the co-founders of Crea-ture Studios they originally met whilst working at
Warner Brothers Montreal lending their talents most notably to Batman Arkham
origins Marc Andre is creature studios as artist
and animator while Vincent handles the programming recently I got a chance to
talk with the team at creature studios about the success of their recent
Kickstarter what the future holds for session as well as comparisons made
between session and the elusive skate for also just a heads up Marc Andre and
Vincent both have fairly thick French accents and the audio quality isn't
fantastic so I've taken the liberty of creating subtitles which you can turn on
here what's your reaction to your Kickstarter you guys were thankful
enough to raise a hundred and sixty thousand dollars what was your feeling
coming out of the whole process super happy and we're pretty tired at the end
but yeah I was super happy I think the reception was really good no people
clearly showed that there's a need for a new skate game so I say yeah it's always
good to see like such an amount of positive feedback so yeah super cool as
promised what we expected but at the same time a little bit more you know
you never really know how things are gonna go I think just over 3,000 people
contributed to the Kickstarter if you had to send a message to the backers
what would you say massive tanks I think it's pretty cool you know we know the
project's been and some some some weird position at the beginning it was a
really tough start but yeah we're really happy to see like people like stood by
and keep living in us and showed really explicitly that they're really down for
this concept so yeah big thanks and so how's the money from
the Kickstarter going to impact the projects on a short term but also in the
long term as we were saying during the Kickstarter video making games is
something really expensive so we we wanted to make sure that we could bring
a really solid early access version so that that was mostly why we wanted to go
to Kickstarter and we already had some funds so that allowed us to to make the
prototype and make something decent but we also felt that the case sorted would
help a lot to you know to make a really solid early access version so short term
I think it's going to do I'll piss make session look way better than then we
could have for the first early access version we hope it's going to have a
long term and practice is going to start better than what we expected you guys
are lucky enough to already have without even releasing instantly access a pretty
dedicated online community there's quite a lot of people playing session and that
are pretty active and vocal online what's it like to have that trust and
reassurance from players so early in the development process it's actually it's
pretty cool we're expecting that much it's kind of neat to see you know
sometimes I'm on YouTube and you know in the history since I'm looking at
skateboard stuff they'll be like a session video that pops up and it's like
wow that's pretty impressive you know something that's not even a full game
yet and there's already so many videos popping up so it's cool it's a nice
feeling it's it's really cool it's really motivating but it's also
stressful at the same time right now we're only two expectations are high
and for those who know who's been following the project this prototype
that we just made this is something we've we've built in
less than 8 months I think it's going to be a refund challenge it's really cool
that people or that excited but it's kind of scary at the same time though it
was almost as if the Kickstarter came a bit later than a lot of people had
expected why was why was right now the the right sign for the Kickstarter what
made it the the optimal time to start it there's actually there's no particular
optimal time I would say it's really difficult and all the Kickstarter I
think it went really well considering the the time it shows up November end of
November was getting really close to Christmas time it could have been a bit
of timing but for us it was so important that we come up with something playable
something that people know can can just like take time to download the demo and
see if it's a good fit for them to believe in this game to follow us to
back us the lots of people were expecting skate 4 or a copycat of skate
we love skate well we said it many many times it's a huge inspiration for us but
we're working and to building something different because we felt there was
something some some kind of a untouched ground and you kind of you play around
with it as well like you mentioned skate 4 in the tutorial like you've got you're
not shy to sort of reference that that sentiment I guess yeah it's yeah it's a
it's a it's kind of funny jokes that we would like to say you know I we
understand that people were expecting a skate for now we've we've been really
vocal into the fact that we're making something realistic we're getting close
to simulation we have those those six control sticks concept so for sure it
has to be some links to the skate franchise but at the same times yeah I
think session is is this kind of cool game that deserves its own identity and
can identity don't have its place in the skateboarding game just to me I mean
there's a pretty long history of some very successful skateboarding games out
there do you guys have like a favorite skateboarding game in particular for me
for sure I've played Tony Hawk a lot when I was young I think I was something
like 16 or 17 years old when when the first Tony Hawk came out but I must
admit that as soon as ye skate now came into play
it really shifted the whole thing it was like for the first time I was really
able to enjoy doing some more realistic stuff scape one was probably my favorite
one even though you couldn't get off the board I felt no that the whole city was
feeling more more natural more I know that was making more sense to me my part
I was from a video I'm not the skater of the group so I played Tony Hawk you know
when I was younger also actually the skate series a little bit but I'm
nowhere near like I can't tell you which one's my favorite really I haven't
played enough of them to say oh this is the one that that's my favorite I do
definitely prefer the more realistic aspect of the skate series than with
Tony Hawk but out of all of them I think session is my favorite that's a little
bit biased but oh good you can say your game that's fine yeah there's no rules
um great so I wanted to say that there's an interesting part in in the start of
of the tutorial in session and you're starting in prison it's a really
distinct location with your orange jumpsuit and everything and the tutorial
is delivered by a security guard or a prison guard
and is that relationship with authority figures and rebelling against the system
something that's important to the fabric of session yes it's a really good point
that you bring there for sure know this this is something that I I kind of
always enjoyed about skateboarding is it's not because you have to go against
the rules or anything it's just that take time to to think about what is this
prohibited does it make sense like having like your your own way of
thinking and usually when you you end up now going against those those rules or
or having your your own way of thinking you end up in troubles so that kind of
works and I think it feels it works with the skateboarding culture no this is
like you're expressing some other think you're destroying stuff you're breaking
like the law because it's it's written somewhere that skateboard is illegal but
no that doesn't make sense but this this whole prison thing is it's kind of a
it's a mix of how we wanted to the people to see session it's more than
that and just a part indoor park game it's something that we wanted to reflect
a skateboarding culture I mean the trick menu in in session very very brazenly
states that this is the first true hardcore skating game why did you want
to make the simulation elements so prominent in the game player I think
this is what's fun about skateboarding is to us it it's not necessarily you
don't have to jump like a 50 stair set to feel that you have compressed
something it's more that you you think about what you want to do and then you
put in the effort and we also wanted to what we kind of call they're like the
real stance concept is no since you have the left foot and right foot on stick
but when you go switch now the whole control scheme change and yeah we could
have avoided and stick to the more simplified version but we also wanted to
create this kind of thing that existent to the skate culture now skateboarding
is not only like several tricks in a row it's really something that you think
first you plan and you try so yeah so that's what we're kind of making sure
that people are aware of this and this is how far we want to go with the
simulation it's actually not even as far as we want to go we want to have like
catching mechanics and flipping speed in all these things to be in the game later
on great so Vincent for you as well what was what was the development process of
the of the boarding like on the gameplay front you're kind of on the front line
what were some of the main challenges bringing the skating system to life I'd
say my biggest challenges was was the fact that I'm not scared for myself so
I'm often playing see I actually have skate skate to skate three skate one and
it's up there up next to my a my desk and I my puppet in sometimes just get
the feel for things how they go so that's definitely a challenge you know
since we're working with a lot of physics and getting that realistic feel
to it we don't believe that we're at the point where we want it to be yet so we
still want to push it away more than it is now so you got to find that perfect
balance where okay this is this is nice it feels realistic enough and it feels
fun enough we've learned a lot already and
we've got a lot more to learn as we're going along but it's been a bit minute
challenge you know converting that real aspect of the skating for me which I
don't particularly know to that game and make it feel right so Matt Conley is
like my guinea pig I make a feature sometimes hey can you give me your
feedback on if this feels right or not and then we keep going with it you know
it's gonna be an iterative process hence why we're also doing the early accents
because we want community back early access is only a few months away now
where do you want the gameplay to be in a few months from now what are you
hoping the gameplay is going to look like at at the stage of early access I
think what matters most is making sure that the experience is as tight as we
can we'd like to to make sure that no tricks feel better
grinds as well know this as much as we go simulation sometimes it feels it's
still filler Kitty I know when you do grinds you're locked
and then that's pretty much it there's no balance there's no real frictions and
everything so we're probably most of our energy in two days these things like
create experience experience is the key it's a skill based game so I think
people would be really disappointed if we if we'd come up with with a huge city
and no progress into the skating experience great and can you give me any
idea of how that's going to work is that like unlocking new tricks or
customization options how would the progression system work the progression
system is something that's gonna come on maybe a little bit later right now every
tricks are available right away we'll announce we on - we've set all the key
features like caching mechanics this is something really important I would say
first step it's going to be mostly making sure that grind feels a lot
better I think this is even more important and
progression at the moment I think one of the most eye-catching things about
sessions gameplay is the lack of a scoring system and that's something
that's really new for a skating game it's like a foreign concept almost was
that really important for you guys to implement what was the thinking behind
not having a scoring system the main and major thinking of it is I'm taking the
question because I'm just kidding I in between Vince and I
the main and almost the only reason why there's no scoring system in the game is
simply because to me as a skater it doesn't make sense that you you are
putting points into something that is so subjective
so having points in the game was was destroying this and I think this is
really important part of skateboarding is just just doing what you want what
you feel like doing I actually headed over to this session subreddit and asked
some of the fans of session if they wanted to ask you guys any questions in
particular and so here are some community questions from from the fans
so some of these usernames are just I'm not going to pronounce them right so
bear with me whether user new shab asked in the kickstarter the multiplayer
online and customization goals weren't reached does that mean those two things
are not included in the game completely or only in the early access actually no
all those fresh girls had pre didn't reached is actually just not as what not
secured so depending on how well the game will sell we'll be able to end up
making those features the only big issues is it's going to take a lot more
time than expected depending on how well the project goes pretty much right and
use a dawn way essentially asks what's the difference between developing in an
open indie environment where the consumers feedback has a big amount of
impact in the game versus working for a big company with big publishers and
deadlines and not too much creative decisions we do have a lot more creative
freedom as opposed to - when you are you know working for a big company I was a
publisher especially they they want to make the big bucks right so their calls
might not necessarily be in line with the creative aspect abated and more so
as they you know is it more accessible as opposed to more niche so that that's
definitely different I mean yes the challenges of the indie space is you're
independent you need to find you know money to keep
going and to try to make the best game you can and
and so there's the challenge of balancing the biggest difference and it
might be like our biggest problem or challenge I would say is since we have
entire creative control things can grow really easily
and we always have to make sure that we keep kind of cold head regarding what we
want to do with the game we're getting lots of feedback sometimes there's some
really cool ideas that come up but in reality making a game with such a
limited budget there's a lot of things that we'd love to do that we cannot do
that we have to say it out well no sorry I can't
don't get me wrong you know you learn we went there we learned a lot and what to
do what not to do so it was worth it and yet gained some experience but I prefer
tenfold the indie space yes yeah by far yeah mmm
underscore Vernors asks her modding was listed as a really high tier stretch
goal but people are already making mods will they actively restrict mods or just
not release official tools okay yeah this is a this is a good one you know I
think there's a lot of things going on around mods I think I can speak for both
of us we love the fact that people want to mod the game you know and and be
involved into creating content and really cool stuff well we just get kind
of I wouldn't say concern it's it's a it's a really thin line because it's so
early in the game so many things are going to change that modding at the
moment is it feels really really early now
well right now reality is we're just the two of us and we don't have to also know
we were using on wheels and we cannot invest too much money and time into
making tools for the money because we would need to make the game and there's
and right now this is not really any game it's just like a prototype a cool
control bunch of animations and in a broken broken maps so that's that's
pretty much it and broken maps great and another one I thought this one was
actually really important because I feel like the community
should know about this this is a from local Lu and the question is are you
still holding true to your statement about allowing people who missed the
Kickstarter to back the project by a PayPal granting them access to the
indoor park v2 and other prototype consent there are many of us out there
who simply didn't realize we missed the end date and we would like to contribute
so obviously some fans out there are still hoping to to fund the the game and
yeah you guys helping support that yeah this this is something that is on on our
list right now that we want you to look at we just want to make sure because for
example like you know someone is sending a message today it would like to back
the game I know where we had access to people and everything and I said yeah
sure and then the second question is yeah but well I just have the indoor
park will I'll be able to take some bigger pledges and and then t-shirts and
everything so it's something that we would care about making sure that people
are happy with the interaction they have with us it's definitely not no when
we're not close with this painful idea that's for sure we just need to make
sure that it's efficient it does not become counterproductive the long answer
short we're looking long against a guy yeah no great I mean I guess like your
Kickstarter you want to make sure that it's the right time and that it's done
done right it seems last question and I like it it's it's short and sweet Sam
Jones 782 asked is it coming to ps4 he's it coming to ps4 there's a there's no
early access for ps4 unfortunately so is it coming to ps4 I'm gonna have to
answer and this is kind of the same answer we get to to everyone is we're
definitely not close to other platforms so as soon as v1 will be out the first
thing we'll do is look at porting the game into other platforms
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