YOU HAD YOUR 35 MINUTES. SHUT UP!
IT WAS A SEXUAL HARASSMENT ENTERPRISE THERE AT FOX.
IF YOU'RE A STAR, THEY LET YOU DO IT. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING.
GRAB THEM BY THE [ Bleep ].
IT HAS RESULTED IN THE ARREST OF MEN THAT ARE PREYING ON OUR MOST
PRECIOUS RESOURCE, OUR CHILDREN.
IT WAS THE WORST EVIL I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.
Lorna: SEARCHING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IN A CULTURE OF
ANYTHING GOES. WHISTLE BLOWING ON BAD BEHAVIOUR
HAS GARNERED A POPULIST PUSH. IS THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION
GAINING A NEW KIND OF AUTHORITY AND JUST WHO SETS THE RULES
OF WHAT IS AND IS NOT BAD BEHAVIOUR.
TODAY A LOOK INTO THE HEART OF THE DISGRACEFUL AND HAIR-RAISING
BEHAVIOURS OF EVERY DAY PEOPLE, LEADERS IN POSITIONS OF POWER,
PUBLIC SERVANTS, AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY BEING CALLED FOR
AMONG THE SCANDALS THAT PEOPLE ARE DETERMINED TO STOP.
I'M LORNA DUECK...
I'M SHELDON NEIL...
AND I'M MOLLY THOMAS.
Lorna: AND YOU'RE WATCHING CONTEXT.
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Lorna: COMING UP, A DAVID VERSUS GOLIATH STORY.
HOW A CANADIAN COLUMNIST TOOK ON FOX POWER HOUSE HOST
BILL O'REILLY. IS BAD BEHAVIOUR INCREASINGLY BEING CALLED TO
THE CARPET. WE LOOK FOR ANSWERS. WHAT TO DO WHEN A CHRISTIAN
SENATOR IS CAUGHT IN SCANDAL. REVEREND DAVID WELLS WHO SERVES
OVER 200,000 CONSTITUENTS IN CHURCHES ACROSS CANADA, TELLS US
HOW IMPORTANT ACCOUNTABILITY IS WHEN WE LOSE OUR MORAL COMPASS.
WHEN I GET UP IN THE MORNING AND GOING OUT OF MY HOUSE,
I'VE GOT KEYS BETWEEN MY FINGERS, READY TO HIT SOMEONE
IN DEFENSE.
Lorna: YOUNG CANADIAN WOMEN SPEAK OUT ON EVERY DAY
EXPERIENCES THAT MAY SHOCK YOU.
LOTS TO COME AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE NEWS STORIES THAT
CAUGHT OUR ATTENTION. DISTURBING NEWS OUT OF EDMONTON
WHERE A TODDLER WAS FOUND DEAD NEAR A CHURCH, AND IS BELIEVED
TO HAVE BEEN LYING THERE FOR AT LEAST THREE DAYS.
19 MONTH OLD ANTHONY JOSEPH RAINE WAS FOUND DEAD COVERED
IN BRUISES. POLICE SAY HE HAD BEEN LIVING IN
A VIOLENT ENVIRONMENT. THE BOY'S FATHER AND GIRLFRIEND
HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH 2ND DEGREE MURDER.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS GONE ON ANOTHER TIRADE WITH
HIS PROTECTIONIST POLICIES. THIS TIME CANADA'S SOFT WOOD
LUMBER INDUSTRY IS HIS NEXT TARGET.
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE CANADA HAS BEEN VERY ROUGH ON
THE UNITED STATES. THEY'VE OUTSMARTED OUR
POLITICIANS FOR MANY YEARS. SO WE DID INSTITUTE A VERY
BIG TARIFF.
Lorna: THE ISSUE HAS BEEN A MAJOR TRADE IRRITANT BETWEEN
CANADA AND THE U.S. FOR THE PAST TWO CENTURIES, WITH CANADA OFTEN
TIMES WINNING OUT. MR. TRUMP NOW WANTS TO STRIKE
A NEW DEAL THAT BETTER SUITS THE US BEFORE NAFTA NEGOTIATIONS
REOPEN. $6 BILLION A YEAR, AND THOUSANDS OF CANADIAN JOBS COULD
BE ON THE LINE WITH TRUMP DEMANDING NEW CONDITIONS.
AND THE FOOD CRISIS INTENSIFIES IN YEMEN.
EVERY TEN MINUTES, A CHILD DIES FROM STARVATION.
WE ARE FACING A TRAGEDY. THIS IS PREVENTABLE,
IF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TAKES DECISIVE ACTION.
Lorna: THIS IS JUST ONE OF FOUR COUNTRIES IN NEED OF
EMERGENCY FOOD RIGHT NOW. IN SOUTH SUDAN THE CIVIL WAR IS
MAKING THE FAMINE WORSE. IN NORTHERN NIGERIA, THOUSANDS ARE
LINING UP FOR FOOD RATIONS THAT ARE RUNNING SHORT.
SOMALIA STILL HASN'T SEEN SOLID RAINS.
71,000 CHILDREN ARE AT RISK OF DEATH AND BEHIND THEM IS ANOTHER
343,000 IN ACUTE MALNUTRITION. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT
HOW YOU CAN HELP THESE COUNTRIES IN NEED, VISIT OUR WEBSITE
AND WATCH OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE FROM SOMALIA.
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Lorna: WELL ON THE SHOW TODAY, OUTRAGEOUS, DISGRACEFUL AND JUST
PLAIN BAD BEHAVIOUR. AND THE MAN FACING THE LARGEST
OUTCRY AND WHO HAS MANY IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE IN AN UPROAR IS
THE KING OF CABLE. FOX NEWS HOST BILL O'REILLY IS
OFF THE AIR WAIVES AFTER REVELATIONS THAT HE
AND THE NETWORK PAID MILLIONS TO SETTLE ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL
HARASSMENT AGAINST MULTIPLE WOMEN. WELL, WELL-VERSED ON
BILL O'REILLY IS JOHN DOYLE, AN AWARD WINNING COLUMNIST
OF THE GLOBE AND MAIL. MOLLY THOMAS MET UP WITH HIM
IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO.
I WANT TO ASK ABOUT YOU TAKING ON ONE OF THE BIGGEST
MEDIA MACHINES IN THE WORLD. ARGUABLY BACK IN 2004,
YOU'VE CALLED OUT BILL O'REILLY. SOME OF YOUR WORDS ARE RIGHT
WING BLOW HARD, STUPENDOUSLY POMPOUS. YOU DON'T HOLD BACK.
WELL, THE CONTEXT AT THE TIME WAS THERE WAS AN APPLICATION
FROM A CANADIAN COMPANY TO CARRY FOX NEWS IN CANADA, AND I
ENTERED INTO THIS ARENA OF DEBATE WHETHER FOX NEWS SHOULD
BE AVAILABLE IN CANADA, WOULD IT HAVE ANY IMPACT, WOULD IT
INFLUENCE THINGS IN CANADA, BY SIMPLY SAYING THAT REALLY
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THERE'S NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF,
THERE'S NOTHING VERY MYSTERIOUS ABOUT FOX NEWS, IS ACTUALLY
HILARIOUS. SOMEHOW HE OR HIS PRODUCERS CAME ACROSS MY COLUMN
AND HE STARTED MOCKING, DERIDING ME, AND THE "GLOBE AND MAIL,"
WHICH HE CALLED A FAR LEFT NEWSPAPER. I STARTED GETTING
HUNDREDS AND THEN THOUSANDS, LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF EMAILS
FROM O'REILLY'S VIEWERS, ATTACKING ME, ATTACKING CANADA.
MOST OF THEM WERE NOT PRINTABLE. I MEAN, THEY WERE REALLY
VICIOUS. SO THE TIMES CONTACTED ME, AND ASKED IF I'D BE WILLING
TO SHARE SOME OF THE REALLY VICIOUS EMAILS FROM O'REILLY'S
SUPPORTERS. AND THE PIECE THEN APPEARED IN THE SUNDAY NEW YORK
TIMES IN A VERY PROMINENT POSITION, AND THAT KIND OF TOOK
EVERYBODY'S BREATH AWAY THAT THIS FIGHT WAS GOING ON.
I THEN GOT HUNDREDS AND THEN EVENTUALLY THOUSANDS OF EMAILS
FROM AMERICANS, FROM READERS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, WHO WERE
APOLOGIZING FOR THE U.S, FOR FOX NEWS, FOR BILL O'REILLY,
AND FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAD ATTACKED ME, SO IT KIND OF
WENT BACK AND FORTH, AND IN THE END, I FELT THAT I HAD KIND OF
FELT I HAD WON THE ARGUMENT BECAUSE THOSE DECENT PEOPLE IN
THE STATES WHO SAW O'REILLY FOR THE BLOW HARD, POMPOUS, BULLYING
CHARACTER HE WAS, THEY WERE APOLOGIZING FOR HIM.
IS THIS A TV INDUSTRY ISSUE OR IS THIS A WIDER ISSUE,
WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN AND HOW WOMEN ARE TREATED?
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE REALLY THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN IN
MEDIA AND ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRIES, AND BY TRADITION,
THOSE INDUSTRIES ARE THOUGHT OF AS SORT OF INTENSE, CREATIVE,
COMPETITIVE WORKPLACE WHERE ALLOWANCES ARE MADE FOR CRUDE
THINGS BEING SAID OR DONE, AND THERE ISN'T AS MUCH PUSH BACK
ABOUT CRUDE BEHAVIOUR BY MEN TOWARDS WOMEN IN THOSE
INDUSTRIES, BECAUSE ALLOWANCES ARE MADE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK THIS CAME OUT OF THE GHOMESHI SITUATION.
HERE, WE'RE AT A TIPPING POINT AND NO ALLOWANCES
ARE BEING MADE. WHAT HAPPENED IN THE O'REILLY AND FOX NEWS
SITUATION IS THAT THE NEW YORK TIMES HAD A TIP.
THEY HAD HEARD RUMOURS, AND THEY DID AN INVESTIGATION INTO
THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF O'REILLY AND FOX NEWS, AND DISCOVERED THAT
O'REILLY HIMSELF AND FOX NEWS HAD ACTUALLY PAID OUT MANY
MILLIONS TO WOMEN WHO WERE EITHER WORKING AT FOX NEWS
OR CONTRIBUTING TO IT, IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM GO AWAY,
BECAUSE THEY HAD APPARENTLY LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS.
I SUSPECT WHAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS INCREASINGLY
IS THAT IN THE MEDIA AND ENTERTAINMENT WORLD,
THE SHUTTERS WILL BE KICKED OPEN. THE GENERAL PUBLIC
AND ADVERTISERS WON'T TOLERATE IT. I THINK THAT'S --
LIKE THE POWER OF WOMEN IS RISING UP BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH
OPPOSITION.
Lorna: AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT JOHN DOYLE THINKS OF
THE ERA OF TRUMP AND HIS AFFECT ON CULTURE, GO TO OUR WEBSITE
FOR MOLLY'S ENTIRE INTERVIEW WITH JOHN DOYLE.
NOW, TO SHELDON NEIL WHO SPEAKS WITH
RYERSON DIGITAL MEDIA PROFESSOR MARSHA BARBER, TO HELP US
UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC'S OUTCRY OVER BAD BEHAVIOUR.
FROM PROTESTS OVER RECENT PAY HIKES AND MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
BONUSES TO BOMBARDIER EXECUTIVES,
TO A UNITED AIRLINES PASSENGER CAPTURED ON A CELL PHONE AS
SECURITY PHYSICALLY DRAGGED HIM OFF A PLANE.
TO STREET PROTEST AT FOX NEWS OVER BEHAVIOUR OF THEIR
BIGGEST HOST. BAD BEHAVIOUR, IS IT OUT OF CONTROL?
WELL, HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE REASONS AND HOW WE CAN MEASURE
STANDARDS OF BAD BEHAVIOUR IN MEDIA, WITH ME NOW,
IS MARSHA BARBER, PROFESSOR AT THE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM
AT RYERSON UNIVERSITY. MARSHA, IT APPEARS THERE WAS A
UP SURGE, IF YOU WILL, IN PUBLIC PROTESTS OVER BAD BEHAVIOUR.
MARSHA, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE PUBLIC AND BAD BEHAVIOUR?
WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN REACTION TO BAD BEHAVIOUR,
AND AN INTENT TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TO CURRENT SOCIAL NORMS,
AND I THINK WHAT HAS CHANGED IS SOCIAL MEDIA IS
AVAILABLE NOW, SO THAT MEANS PEOPLE HAVE 24/7 ACCESS TO
LEARNING ABOUT THESE BAD BEHAVIOURS.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, OSCAR WILDE, THE 19th CENTURY WRITER,
IF HE BEHAVED BADLY, ACCORDING TO THE CONVENTIONS OF THE TIMES,
PEOPLE WOULD READ ABOUT IT EVENTUALLY, BUT THEY WOULDN'T
RECEIVE TWEETS, AND RE-TWEETS AND UPDATES. AND SO TODAY,
WE KNOW THAT WHEN THE DOCTOR, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS DRAGGED OFF
THE FLIGHT, HE HAD A BROKEN NOSE, HE HAD A CONCUSSION,
HE LOST A COUPLE OF TEETH AND THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE
FOLLOWING MINUTE BY MINUTE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THAT STORY.
BUT HOW DO WE MEASURE OUR STANDARDS FOR BAD BEHAVIOUR?
WELL, WE'VE DEFINED BAD BEHAVIOUR DIFFERENTLY THROUGH
DIFFERENT PERIODS OF HISTORY. BUT THE ONE THING THOSE
BEHAVIOURS HAVE IN COMMON, PERHAPS, IS THEY CONTRAVENE
SOCIETAL NORMS IN SOME WAY. SO IF WE TALK ABOUT STANDARDS
TODAY, WE CAN ASK, IS IT LEGAL? IS IT FAIR? IS IT EQUITABLE?
ARE PEOPLE TREATING OTHERS THE WAY THEY WOULD WANT TO BE
TREATED THEMSELVES. AND SO THOSE ARE I THINK SOME OF
THE USEFUL QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK AS WE MEASURE THIS.
THE PUBLIC OFTEN HOLDS FAMOUS PEOPLE WHETHER THEY BE MOVIE
STARS OR POLITICIANS TO A HIGHER STANDARD TO FOLLOW, BUT WHEN
THEY FALL, HOW DOES THE PUBLIC RECOVER AND WHAT CAN WE DO --
LIKE HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THAT PUBLIC LOYALTY?
OKAY, WELL, TODAY WHEN IT COMES TO MOVIE STARS, I THINK
THERE'S A LOT OF CYNICISM. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT
AUDREY HEPBURN ANYMORE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LINDSAY LOHAN,
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUSTIN BIEBER, SO DO WE HOLD
THEM TO A HIGHER STANDARD, OR ON SOME LEVEL DO WE FIND IT REALLY
INTERESTING, AND TITILLATING TO SEE HOW FLAWED THEY ARE.
SO NOT ONLY DOES THE PUBLIC RECOVER, BUT THE APPETITE FOR
TABLOID NEWS ABOUT FAMOUS PEOPLE, I THINK IT SEEMS TO BE
ALMOST INSATIABLE. HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT POLITICIANS, THAT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT,
BECAUSE THEY'RE PAID FROM THE PUBLIC PURSE, THEY'RE PUBLICLY
ACCOUNTABLE, AND LOYALTY TOWARDS POLITICIANS REQUIRES THAT THEY
DO EXHIBIT HIGH STANDARDS OF ETHICAL BEHAVIOUR
FOR RE-ELECTION.
MARSHA BARBER, THANK YOU FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US.
WE APPRECIATE YOU.
THANK YOU, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
THAT WAS MARSHA BARBER, PROFESSOR AT THE SCHOOL
OF JOURNALISM AT RYERSON UNIVERSITY.
Lorna: COMING UP A PENTECOSTAL PASTOR WEIGHS IN ON
WHAT IT TAKES TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND FIND REDEMPTION WHEN
A CHURCH LEADER FALLS FROM GRACE, AND --
WHEN I GET UP IN THE MORNING AND I'M GOING OUT OF MY HOUSE,
I'VE GOT KEYS BETWEEN MY FINGERS READY TO HIT SOMEONE IT DEFENSE.
Lorna: TOO MANY STORIES TO TELL. WHY YOUNG CANADIAN WOMEN SAY
SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS A DAILY FEAR. STAY WITH US.
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HERE ARE SOME OF THE STORIES MAKING HEADLINES THIS WEEK...
VOTERS TURNING THEIR OUTRAGE INTO ONLINE WORLDWIDE TRENDS.
WHY HEALTHCARE WORKERS KILL.
THE OPIOID CRISIS IS A HEALTH CRISIS.
SO HOW DO WE WEED OUT THE NOISE?
WELL, THIS IS AN ISSUE OUR NEXT GUEST IS AN EXPERT ON.
WE HAVE A LINEUP OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS FROM THE CHRISTIAN,
MUSLIM, AND JEWISH FAITH COMMUNITIES.
I'M LORNA DUECK --
AND I'M SHELDON NEIL --
AND I'M MOLLY THOMAS.
AND YOU'RE WATCHING CONTEXT LIVE.
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Lorna: DOES BAD BEHAVIOUR FROM PEOPLE IN THE SPOTLIGHT
TRICKLE DOWN INTO A CULTURE OF HARASSMENT?
WELL, MOLLY THOMAS ROUNDED UP A GROUP
OF DIVERSE WOMEN IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO TO FIND OUT.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES, LET'S TALK ABOUT BAD BEHAVIOUR, OKAY.
WE'VE HAD THE BILL O'REILLY SCANDAL, RIGHT - A REALLY LATE
DISMISSAL FROM FOX, WE'VE HAD A CANADIAN SENATOR IN HOT WATER
OVER A MINOR HERE IN CANADA, WE HAVE HAD TRUMP'S ANTICS
AROUND WOMEN STILL GETTING HIM ELECTED. DOES THE BAD BEHAVIOUR
OF THESE PEOPLE IN THE SPOTLIGHT TRICKLE DOWN TO THE AVERAGE
WOMAN? LAXY?
ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S MY EVERYDAY PUNISHMENT.
ACTUALLY, A FEW MONTHS AGO I WAS IN QUEBEC, GOING HOME --
GOING FOR LUNCH ACTUALLY, WITH A FEW FRIENDS, AND I
WAS CROSSING THE ROAD, AND THIS MAN, OUT OF THE BLUE CAME RIGHT
AT ME, KISSED ME ON THE LIPS AND MY FRIENDS HAD TO PULL HIM OFF,
AND MY ONLY INSTINCT WAS TO FLEE, BUT LIKE THAT'S NOT --
YOU'D THINK IT'S A SURPRISING EVENT, BUT IT HAPPENS REGULARLY.
VALERIE, YOU'RE A BUSINESS OWNER IN TOWN. YOU LOVE THE LEAFS.
[LAUGHTER]
YOU GO, YOU HAVE GREAT PLATINUM SEATS, BUT YOU HAVE AN
UNCOMFORTABLE EXPERIENCE SOMETIMES.
YEAH. WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HIGH PROFILE PEOPLE
WHO GET AWAY WITH A LOT OF THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR,
IT NORMALIZES, AND ALLOWS JUST EVERY DAY
PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BEHAVE IN THE SAME WAY.
SO, MY BUSINESS PARTNER AND I WERE WATCHING A LEAFS GAME,
AND JUST THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE GAME, THE PERSON SITTING NEXT
TO ME WHO WAS A MIDDLE AGED GENTLEMAN, HE JUST
FELT LIKE IT WAS OKAY, EVERY TIME HE PASSED BY, TO SORT OF
TOUCH, AND SORT OF GRAZE INAPPROPRIATELY, AND MAKE
COMMENTS LIKE LITTLE LADY AND ALLUDE TO MY ETHNICITY.
AND IN THE MOMENT -- I THINK AFTERWARDS YOU THINK ABOUT
ALL THE THINGS YOU WISH YOU HAD SAID, BUT IN THE MOMENT,
YOU WANT TO JUST ENJOY THE GAME, AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE
CONFRONTATIONAL, BUT YOU ALSO REALIZE -- I REALIZED AFTER,
NOT SAYING SOMETHING JUST KIND OF PERMITTED THAT BEHAVIOUR.
ELENA, I WANT TO BRING YOU INTO THIS. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE
AT THIS TABLE WHO IS A WIFE AND A MOTHER.
DOES THAT CHANGE THE WAY MEN TREAT YOU?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE TO SAY I HAVE BEEN FOR THE MOST PART
VERY LUCKY IN PLACES WHERE I HAVE WORKED.
THAT SAID I'VE WORKED MANY YEARS IN THE CREATIVE INDUSTRY,
AND SO AT THAT TIME I WAS ACTUALLY JUST ENGAGED.
JUST ENGAGED, YOU SEE, I HAVE TO JUSTIFY MY STATUS, AND AT
A STAFF HOLIDAY PARTY, A CHRISTMAS PARTY, MY BOSS,
THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY, GRABBED MY BEHIND.
MY HUSBAND FLIPPED OUT, THEY ENDED UP IN A FIGHT, BUT IT
WAS NORMAL BEHAVIOUR. THAT IS A MAN WHO WAS MARRIED
WITH CHILDREN AND HE USED TO GRAB BREASTS, GROPE OTHER WOMEN,
FRENCH KISS THEM, THEM AND THAT WAS CONSIDERED NORMAL.
HOW DO WE CHANGE THIS?
I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY GUY FRIENDS WHO HAVE LOCKER ROOM
TALKS, THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO TRUMP TALKS, SO I HAVE CHATS
WITH THEM, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING WE'D HAVE TO DO IS USE
OUR FISTS, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT, RIGHT.
I THINK AS A GIRLFRIEND, SOMETIMES HAVING BEEN ON
THE RECEIVING END OF THAT KIND OF HARASSMENT, IN THE MOMENT
YOU'RE SO SHOCKED YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO REACT.
AND AS A GIRLFRIEND TO MY FRIENDS, IF I WITNESS IT,
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M MUCH MORE CONSCIOUS ABOUT NOW,
TO SAY, HEY, ARE YOU OKAY, DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT THIS? DO WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING?
I WILL SAY THAT WITH MY SON, HE'S A VERY LOVEABLE KID.
HE'S SIX, SO DOES THE PRANKS AND THE LAUGHS AND THE JOKES,
BUT HE LOVES HUGGING, AND KISSING.
AND HE LOVES DOING THAT TO HIS CLASSMATES. AND WE HAVE TO
STEP IN AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT IS VERY KIND OF YOU,
BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK. SO AT SIX YEARS OLD AND I'M HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION WITH HIM ON A WEEKLY BASIS REALLY,
SAYING, BEFORE YOU CAN HUG ANOTHER PERSON, YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO ASK THEM. IS IT OKAY IF I GIVE YOU A HUG.
IT'LL PROBABLY START WITH MOMS AROUND THE GLOBE, TO BE HONEST,
TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE TIDE OF THIS.
MOMS AND DADS.
MOMS AND DADS, 100%. YEAH. DADS -- THEY HAVE TO HEAR IT
FROM BOTH PARENTS, FROM BOTH GENDERS.
Lorna: WOW. MOLLY, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY
AND THOSE YOUNG WOMEN ARE STILL DEALING WITH THOSE VARIOUS FORMS
OF HARASSMENT IN THEIR LIVES. POWERFUL STORIES AND I KNOW
THEY WERE NOT HARD TO FIND. OKAY, SHELDON, WHAT IS HAPPENING
ON SOCIAL MEDIA?
THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORNA. WELL, LOOKING AT HASHTAGS ON THIS,
A PROMINENT ONE, HASHTAG, BILL O'REILLY'S FIRED PARTY,
IS JUST ONE HASHTAG THAT'S TRENDING AS WE CONTINUE TO
TACKLE THE SUBJECT OF BAD BEHAVIOUR.
LET'S GO TO OUR FIRST POST. SOME POSTS HAVE USED
STRONG LANGUAGE. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THIS UP ON SCREEN FOR YOU.
THE FIRST ONE READS. AT LAST, THAT RACIST BLOKE GOT THE BOOT.
HASHTAG BILL O'REILLY'S FIRED PARTY. SOME STRONG LANGUAGE
USED THERE AS YOU CAN SEE ON SCREEN. I WANT TO MOVE TO
THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS ONE THAT I PERSONALLY FOUND
QUITE INTERESTING TO MYSELF. OTHER POSTS CONTINUE TO CALL
TO THE SURFACE THE RACIST CHARACTERIZATION
O'REILLY OFTEN MADE OF PEOPLE. IN THIS CASE,
THIS IS Dr. MARC LAMONT HILL, PROFESSOR OF COLUMBIA
UNIVERSITY. OF COURSE, THIS CLIP JUST WAS ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA,
OF COURSE IT HAS GONE VIRAL, O'REILLY SAYING, HE LOOKS LIKE
A COCAINE DEALER. NOW OF COURSE, THIS MAN HAVING A PH .D,
BEING AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WAS SOMEWHAT OF A RACIST
CHARACTERIZATION THAT MANY AS YOU KNOW DEFINITELY FROWNED ON.
I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE HERE. SOME TAKING SOMEWHAT
MORE OF A LIGHTER APPROACH. FORMER FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA
DANCE I CALL THIS. SHE SAYS, I HOPE I'M NOT TOO LATE TO THE
HASHTAG, BILL O'REILLY'S FIRED PARTY,
NOW THAT IS ACTUALLY A MOVING GRAPHIC IF YOU CARE TO LOOK
AT IT AT HOME. LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT AND LAST ONE.
ANOTHER A LIGHTER APPROACH TO THIS. WHEN YOU GET OUT OF
WORK AND SEE -- HERE'S A SECONDARY HASHTAG --
HASHTAG BILL O'REILLY IS OVER IS TRENDING,
OF COURSE, CLOSING IT OFF, HASHTAG BILL O'REILLY'S
FIRED PARTY. FOR NOW, THAT IS JUST SOME OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA
O'REILLY'S SPECIFIC FALLOUT.
Lorna: STILL AHEAD, THE CANADIAN SENATE IS PUSHING
TO OUST ONE OF THEIR OWN. SENATOR DON MEREDITH,
A PENTECOSTAL PASTOR FOR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.
WE GO TO THE CHURCH HEAD OFFICE TO FIND OUT THE RULES
AROUND THAT.
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HERE ARE SOME OF THE STORIES MAKING HEADLINES THIS WEEK...
VOTERS TURNING THEIR OUTRAGE INTO ONLINE WORLDWIDE TRENDS.
WHY HEALTHCARE WORKERS KILL.
THE OPIOID CRISIS IS A HEALTH CRISIS.
SO HOW DO WE WEED OUT THE NOISE?
WELL, THIS IS AN ISSUE OUR NEXT GUEST IS AN EXPERT ON.
WE HAVE A LINEUP OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS FROM THE CHRISTIAN,
MUSLIM, AND JEWISH FAITH COMMUNITIES.
I'M LORNA DUECK --
AND I'M SHELDON NEIL --
AND I'M MOLLY THOMAS.
AND YOU'RE WATCHING CONTEXT LIVE.
[ ♪♪♪ ]
I'M MOLLY THOMAS IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO. TODAY WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT LEADERSHIP. DO PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC EYE
HAVE TO ADHERE TO A HIGHER ETHICAL STANDARD?
LET'S FOUND OUT.
PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR, THEY HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY.
IF YOU FOUND OUT THAT YOUR LEADER WAS, I DON'T KNOW,
USING DRUGS, IF THAT GOES OUT TO YOUNGER CHILDREN,
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE THAT? THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE --
OH, OUR PRIME MINISTER IS USING DRUGS, LIKE, THAT'S OKAY
WITH US.
IF AT LEAST THEY COULD BE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS THAT
WE COLLECTIVELY SOMEHOW IMAGINE, THAT WOULD BE PERHAPS A STEP IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
Lorna: PERHAPS NOWHERE IS IT MORE NECESSARY FOR UPSTANDING
BEHAVIOUR THAN IN POSITIONS OF POWER. IN THE CHAMBER
OF SOBER SECOND THOUGHT, THE CANADIAN SENATE. THE SENATE
ETHICS OFFICER HAS CONCLUDED THAT SENATOR DON MEREDITH'S
ALLEGED SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH A TEENAGE GIRL
HAVE BREACHED THE SENATES ETHICS. THE SENATE ETHICS
COMMITTEE IS NOW PRESSURING MEREDITH TO STEP DOWN,
BUT SENATOR MEREDITH IS FIGHTING AGAINST THAT, AND IS
NOW ON MEDICAL LEAVE. JOINING ME NOW TO SPEAK ABOUT
THE EMBATTLED SENATOR, IS REVEREND ALVIN NICHOLSON,
WHO KNOWS HIM. HELLO, REVEREND NICHOLSON.
HI, LORNA.
Lorna: ALL RIGHT. YOU AND SENATOR MEREDITH FORMED
A PARTNERSHIP THAT RECEIVED 3 MILLION IN GOVERNMENT FUNDING.
YOU CREATED THE DOWN WITH GUNS PROGRAM IN TORONTO.
IT WAS TWO COMMUNITY BASED PASTORS. YOURSELF, AND PASTOR
MEREDITH UNITING FOR A YOUTH ANTI-VIOLENCE STRATEGY.
HOW EFFECTIVE WAS IT TO LEVERAGE THE REPUTATION OF PASTORS
INTO THAT?
WELL, LORNA, WHAT THIS ENABLED US TO DO IS TO BRING PASTORS
TOGETHER, IN THE FIRST INSTANCE TO MAKE THEM MORE AWARE
OF THE ROOT CAUSES FOR VIOLENCE AMONG OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN
OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT, BECAUSE AT
THE END OF THE PERIOD FOR THE FUNDS, WE WERE ABLE TO AFFECT
167,000 YOUTH AND THEIR FAMILIES.
WE ENGAGED IN 67 PROJECTS, IN FACT ONE OF THE PROJECTS
ITSELF INVOLVED A THOUSAND YOUNG PEOPLE WITH POLICE,
THE POLICE OF TORONTO, AS THEIR MENTORS, SO WE KNOW THAT THERE
WAS A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE CHURCH, AND IN PARTICULAR,
IN THE CHURCHES, THE LEADERSHIP WHO CAME TOGETHER WERE MUCH MORE
SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND WERE MUCH MORE
WILLING TO ADDRESS THEM.
Lorna: AND YOU AND SENATOR MEREDITH LED THAT, AND NOW
WE HAVE THIS, THE SAME MORAL AUTHORITY OF HIS
PASTORATE NOW BEING ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SENATE.
WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF STANDARDS OF CONDUCT IN THE CHRISTIAN
CHURCH?
WELL, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE SCRIPTURE HOW LEADERS
OUGHT TO BEHAVE. IN ISRAEL, THE PRIEST WAS CALLED
TO A HIGHER STANDARD, THE PROPHETS WERE CALLED
TO A HIGHER STANDARD. ALL LEADERSHIP IS CALLED TO A
HIGHER STANDARD OF BEHAVIOUR, WHETHER IT BE MORAL, ETHICAL,
WE'RE ALL CALLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF BEHAVIOUR,
AND THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT FOLLOWERS HAVE A WAY OF LOOKING
AT LEADERS, AND TAKING A LEAD FROM THEM.
AND I BELIEVE WITHIN THE CHURCH, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY
THAT WE INSIST, THAT AS LEADERS, WE STICK TO THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE
STANDARD OF RESPONSIBILITY, AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR OUR OWN
BEHAVIOUR.
Lorna: ALL RIGHT. AND SO YOU'VE REACHED OUT TO SENATOR MEREDITH.
ARE YOU HOPING FOR RECOVERY?
WELL, BIBLICALLY WE'RE TOLD THAT IF SOMEONE IS FOUND IN SIN,
IN A FAULT, OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO
SEEK RESTORATION. THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THAT WE
OUGHT TO APPROACH SUCH A ONE IN A SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS SO THAT
WE CAN HELP REINSTATE THEM, IF IN FACT THEY HAVE, AS IN THIS
CASE, WE HAVE A REPORT. I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY SPOKEN TO
THE SENATOR ABOUT THIS, BUT INDEED, MY FIRST RESPONSIBILITY
IS TO SEEK RECONCILIATION AND RESTORATION OF A BROTHER
IN CHRIST.
Lorna: ALL RIGHT, REVEREND ALVIN NICHOLSON LEADS THE AFRICAN
CANADIAN CHRISTIAN LEADERS ORGANIZATION.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
MY JOY.
Lorna: WELL, NEXT WITH US IS DAVID WELLS.
HE IS THE HEAD OF THE PENTECOSTAL ASSEMBLIES
OF CANADA, WHICH HAS OVER 1100 CHURCHES, 3,500 ACCREDITED
PASTORS AND 250,000 PEOPLE. SHE'S ALSO SERVED AS CHAPLAIN
FOR THE OLYMPICS, THE PAN AM GAMES, THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES.
REVEREND WELLS, WELCOME HERE.
GREAT TO BE WITH YOU, LORNA.
Lorna: OKAY, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT SENATOR MEREDITH'S TITLE
AS A PENTECOSTAL PASTOR. IS HE ACCREDITED WITH
YOUR DENOMINATION?
HE'S NOT ACCREDITED WITH THE PENTECOSTAL ASSEMBLIES
OF CANADA, BUT WE DO TAKE SERIOUSLY, OF COURSE,
WHEN CLERGIES IN THE NEWS, IT REFLECTS BACK TO US AND WE LOOK
AGAIN AT OURSELVES AND OUR PROCESSES, AND WHAT ARE WE DOING
TO ENSURE LEADERS LIVE THE LIFE.
Lorna: WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THAT? LIKE, WHAT IS THE STANDARD
THAT THE CHURCH ASKS OF ITS LEADERS?
IN OUR FELLOWSHIP, AND IN A LOT OF SISTER ORGANIZATIONS THAT
I'M PLEASED TO BE A PART OF, WE DO HAVE HIGH STANDARDS, THAT ARE
ESTABLISHED. YOU DON'T WANT TO READ BYLAW 10.6 RIGHT NOW,
BUT MOST OF US ARE VERY AWARE OF IT, AND IT IS BASED ON BIBLICAL
UNDERSTANDINGS OF A PERSON'S LIFE WHO FOLLOWS JESUS, BUT THEN
ESPECIALLY LEADERS AND BASED ON THAT, WE ESTABLISH MINISTERIAL
CODE OF ETHICS, WE HAVE AN ENTIRE MINISTERIAL CODE OF
ETHICS THAT OUR CREDENTIAL HOLDERS CHECK OFF ON EVERY YEAR
AND IT TOUCHES ON ALL SORTS OF PRACTICAL AREAS OF LIFE
AS WELL, AND THEN WE DO A LOT OF PROACTIVE ONGOING INSTRUCTION,
AND TEACHING, AND TALKING ABOUT REAL PRACTICAL THINGS SO THAT
LEADERS KNOW EXPECTATIONS ABOUT HOW THEY SHOULD LIVE.
Lorna: AND WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT THAT THE CHURCH'S
LEADERS HAVE SUCH A HIGH STANDARD?
WELL, THE UNDERSTANDING UNDERNEATH IT ALL IS THAT YOU
ARE REPRESENTING JESUS, FIRST OF ALL, AS A PERSON, BUT YOU'RE
ALSO REPRESENTING THE CHURCH THAT HE WANTS HIS LIFE,
HIS LOVE, HIS GRACE, THE PURITY OF
WHO HE IS, TO BE REPRESENTED, AND I PERSONALLY -- AND WHEN
WE MESS UP WITHIN OUR OWN FELLOWSHIP OF CHURCHES,
I PERSONALLY GRIEVE THAT WE MAR THE IMAGE OF JESUS BY
OUR BEHAVIOURS THAT DON'T MATCH WHAT HE'S CALLED US TO DO.
Lorna: RECOVERY. YOU ALSO WORK ON RECOVERY, WHAT HAVE YOU
LEARNED ABOUT THAT?
WELL, I'M ALWAYS VERY CLEAR ON THE FACT THAT THE SCRIPTURES
SAY IF ANYONE THINKS YOU STAND, YOU BETTER TAKE HEED LEST
YOU FALL AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO RESTORE SOMEBODY, DO IT IN
A SPIRIT OF MEEKNESS. SO FIRST OF ALL,
THERE'S AN OVER-ARCHING ATTITUDE OF HUMILITY THAT
I'M LOOKING FOR AND THAT I WANT TO HAVE MYSELF.
BUT THEN I ALSO BELIEVE IN THOSE GREAT WORDS
LIKE RESTORATIVE, AND REDEEM, AND THE SCRIPTURES ARE FULL OF
THOSE KINDS OF WORDS. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT GOD CAN DO IN A PERSON'S LIFE. SO PERSONALLY,
I'VE HAD THE JOY, HAS OF OTHER COLLEAGUES OF MINE,
OF LEADING LITERALLY DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE, MEN AND WOMEN,
THROUGH PROCESSES WHERE THEY ADDRESS THE BROKENNESS
IN THEIR LIFE, THE HURT THEY DID AND WE LEAD THEM THROUGH
EITHER ONE YEAR OR TWO YEAR PROCESSES WHERE
THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE, AND THEY DEAL WITH WHAT WAS IT THAT LED
TO THEIR DOWN FALL, WHAT'S THE ROOT CAUSES, HOW DO WE
SUPPORT THEM, IF THEY HAVE FAMILY, THEIR FAMILY, HOW DO WE
SEE THEM RESTORED BACK TO WHAT GOD ALWAYS INTENDED TO SEE DONE
THROUGH THEIR LIVES AND I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE CASES OF
RESTORATION. SO THERE IS HOPE IN THIS STORY,
BECAUSE OF WHO GOD IS, EVEN THOUGH, EVEN AS I'VE BEEN
LISTENING TO THE DIFFERENT STORIES, PERSONALLY I'VE BEEN
GRIEVING, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AT TABLES WHERE I'VE HEARD OF THAT
KIND OF ABUSE, OR I'VE HEARD OF THOSE KINDS OF BROKEN MOMENTS,
AND IT JUST -- I KNOW IT BREAKS THE HEART OF GOD, SO IT
HAS TO BREAK OUR HEART, BUT THEN HE COMES AS A REDEEMER,
AND HE RESTORES HOPE, BOTH THROUGH THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED
THROUGH ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS, OR WRONG ACTIONS, BUT ALSO THOSE
WHO ARE THE OFFENDERS. HE CAN FIND THE PETERS AND MAKE
THEM WHOLE AGAIN.
Lorna: WELL, REVEREND DAVID WELLS, THE SUPERINTENDENT
OF THE PENTECOSTAL ASSEMBLIES OF CANADA. I'M GLAD TO HEAR
THAT THOSE 3,500 PASTORS AND 1100 CHURCHES HAVE THAT KIND OF
RATIONALE BEHIND THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING
WITH US.
[ ♪♪♪ ]
WELL, HOW ABOUT A SPOTLIGHT ON GOOD CONDUCT. TAKE THE CASE
OF BECCA SCHOFIELD, WHO CELEBRATED HER LAST
RADIATION TREATMENT BY ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO REACH OUT
WITH RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS AND THE CHALLENGE HAS GONE VIRAL.
WHY DO WE ALL WANT TO BE A BETTER PERSON?
THAT CRAVING COMES FROM THE DESIGNER OF THE HUMAN RACE,
AND GOD EQUIPS US FOR DO-OVERS. ADMITTING WE'RE WRONG AND THAT
WE NEED GOD'S FORGIVENESS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET PAST OURSELVES.
ONE ON ONE WITH GOD IS THE SAFEST PLACE TO HAVE THAT
CONVERSATION. DON'T DELAY IT. WELL, FOR ALL OF US,
I'M LORNA DUECK AT CONTEXT. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
CHECK OUT THE REST OF OUR STORIES ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
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