No what I really wanted to ask you about cuz we've been discussing this and I don't really understand it, um, it was about
Huawei that
Chinese company electronics company
They make these kick-ass phones and the State Department has said please do not buy them
Yes, and don't buy huawei phones and don't well, I would it comes at you know
The senator saying I just want to guess or no answer, you know, like wait a bit
But why don't you want some detail but so they say yes or no?
Would you buy a hallway in cheetah Haspel was like well, no, I wouldn't buy alcohol wave fault. Okay
yeah, if you start from the premise that
the China is the number one perpetrator of
Economic espionage and theft of intellectual property and also by the way, the number one perpetrator out there of cyber
Shenanigans, you know our activity in cyberspace because it's so bad with theft of intellectual property
They have fake Apple stores over in China with all fake Apple stuff
Yes, fake Apple laptops fake Apple phones everything fake the labels look identical
None of it is actually Apple products. And the reason why they're they're raising the alarm with Huawei and ZTE
is because of the voracious appetite of
The Chinese government and their commercial sector for information we
Should have been raising the concern about this and talking with China and trying to come to terms with this issue
years ago, I'm gonna get we're trying to have that conversation with them now and
Up on Capitol Hill, you know the Congress is trying to enact legislation
Kind of like the squaw way thing
They're doing it in a clumsy fashion
but the overriding principle is correct in that China made some
Decisions years ago that they were going to become a major power in the world
In a certain timeframe and to do that by definition you got to compress your research and development time
Right, and there's one way to do that
essentially and that's to steal information to acquire information if I want to be diplomatic about it something they're going after everything because it
Potentially is all of interest to them
So their idea is to just steal as much technology and as much intellectual
Properties they can and recreate it over in China that has been the plan
I don't want to keep you know, I don't want to you know
Demonize an entire nation, right?
exactly
But they have proven themselves
enormous
ly adept at doing this brand for people to buy and that
Would allow them even if they didn't have any spy device on this phone
It would allow them to get other devices into people's homes that could potentially spy on them and then more importantly
Get into companies
Right and spy on the companies and this is one of the pieces of speculation that I read about was that they had certain servers
That were sending an exorbitant amount of information
out and
They were trying to figure out what was going on with them and that there was like an excessive amount of information that was leaked
Data that was leaving the servers versus coming in and they're like this really seems like some fucked up shit going on this
Right Huawei. First of all always already present here in the country. They manufacture a lot of things besides phones
And so they've already got of a pretty big footprint in this country and and with our allies as well
so I
Mean, I think it's smart to
consider the the nature of a particular regime or government, you know when you're
talking about the potential for their products to enter into
the commercial sector where
They may have access
Because if if they've shown a pattern of activity for acquiring intellectual property
Which is again a very delicate way to put it then I don't think it's a stretch to say we should be concerned
In America you get a fucking wife
China Sun you want to go live in China? It's like fucking ten guys everybody. I'm going
Guys, everyone check you're gonna want that but fucking other dudes
well, that's that's what happens if you live in China, that's what happens if I don't have a
Real lesson here to learn but if what if there's more than ten to one menu image
They have some crazy problem over there, I'm not making this up they have a prick joking folks obviously
I'm joking, but there's a crazy problem over there with the ratio of men to women. That's the ratio. Let's take a guess
What is the ratio of men to women in China men, depending like 60/40?
Well, you know for a long time they have limitations on how many children you can have right, which is just fucking tension eggs
They messed up the whole thing. It's not just that man. People were killing their baby if they found their baby was a girl
I mean, this is a real thing. It didn't happen everywhere
It didn't happen all the time
but they're
Absolutely were girls that were drowned because there were girls cuz the family wanted a boy and if you don't think that that's the case
You're delusional. I think you're delusional. I think if you put those kind of restrictions on intensely poor people
Yeah
In a in in some of them in some parts of the country you're in terrible poverty
And you tell them they can only have one kid
Yeah, I don't wanna have a boy because the boys gonna help them work, right?
Imagine if you're in a room is 115 dudes and a hundred girls. It's like a crazy musical chair thing shit
I find a gal to have some sort of or like a rating system for
People and almost a new kind of currency like a social currency. They're doing in China, right? Yes. Yes
yes, it's scary for people though because it's China and you know, and China is a
It's a trippy place and it's very trippy in terms of it's sort of got
capitalism going but it's also a communist dictatorship and the
Government, and the all the companies are also an you know
The thing with Huawei am I saying it right people getting mad at me about that Huawei? I think it's Huawei
it's the now that number two cell phone manufacturer in the world and they're
Forbidden to work with US carriers, right? The the United States government does not trust this company
So they've said you know
This company is apparently done some shady things according to them not according to certain tech people say it's nonsense
but they're so that now they're keeping them from selling their cell phones with
AT&T mobile whatever but they're the number two manufacturer in the world. Now that just surpassed Apple because just yeah
Yeah, China's a trip. Yeah. Well, it's it's
They know very well is it's kind of remarkable to me that China has been so stable and successful
Because there are you know people who don't like there are people who rebel against the system
But even so the government's been so enormous ly successful controlling information
Yelling what you learn like you can't Google Tiananmen Square if you're there right now
yeah, you can't get those images or anything like that and
Companies want to do business there. So they'll go along with it and huge abuses and huge changes are on the horizon
Even we don't know what they're gonna be. I mean that's that's my worry about the Social Credit system. Right like it's so
Obviously abusable
Yes
Right make the wrong people have bad credit make the people you like have I mean if this is run by the government?
You're gonna trust them to
Do it barely I you know, I'm a little skeptical about it. There's never been a successful
Truly multi-ethnic democracy in the history of the world like democracies that have worked have worked because one group is the boss
right and the other they give rights to the rest of the people and so forth and try to be fair to some extent but
That's changing like as the demographics of the world are changing
We're you know, we're becoming more of the patchwork that we claimed to be years ago and people aren't quite happy with that
They're not comfortable with it. And this is something that can be used to gin up
emotional reactions
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