(Singing) I know my God has made the way for
me. I know my God has made the way for me.
ANNOUNCER: Welcome to the Believer's Voice of Victory.
Today Gloria and Kellie Copeland explain how Jesus will uproot
the enemy's lies and plant truth in your soul. It's time to walk
free and let the Word produce freedom in your life.
GLORIA: Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Believer's
Voice of Victory broadcast. Kellie's back with me today,
and she's going to be sharing some good things with us
from the Word of God. You know, the more you know about the
Word, which is the Truth, the freer you become. KELLIE: Amen.
GLORIA: So it's one of the most important ... It is the most
important thing, really, for you and me, all of us to do in our
personal lives, is to find out what the Word says, and to keep
reading it. You say, "Well I've read that. I've read the book of
Luke before." Well, read it again. Then go on, and on. You
just ... You got to ... All the time you're doing that you're
putting it in your eyes and your ears, and it's getting down in
here where it lives, and it talks to you. So you don't ever
stop studying the Word. That's your freedom. KELLIE: And that's
really ... We're talking about that Word, who is Jesus, and
he's the one that knows our hearts. GLORIA: That's right.
KELLIE: He has to live there. GLORIA: He gave himself for us.
KELLIE: He gave himself for us, and that Word, he wants us to do
what you're talking about. Put the Word in, and let the Word of
God, let the Word of Jesus, let him himself, the way he speaks
to us in our heart, remove the things that are not correct.
Remove the things. So that's what we've been talking about
last week and this week. Today, I want to look in Luke 17,
because what you just described is what you guys did with your
lives. GLORIA: It is. We still do it. KELLIE: So today, 50 plus
years later, your life looks very different than it does. We
talked about that yesterday. So receiving His Word as the Truth
... When you receive the Truth, it makes you free. Free from
what? Free from the lie. We started last week talking about,
from Mark 11, where Jesus went into the temple and he began
turning over the mon- He didn't just do it. He went in the first
day and looked in there and he saw that there was something in
there that didn't belong. The next day he came and he did
something about it. He began removing the things that didn't
belong. He said, all the money changers ... You know the story.
They had turned it into marketplace. He said, "My
Father's house should be a house of prayer." This is what the
Father said about His house. "It should be a house of prayer for
all nations, but you've made it a den of thieves." And you know
what? Our house should be a place of communion with Jesus,
should be a place of ... When he says prayer, that's communion
with the Lord. It should be a place of prayer in us for
others, for nations, for people, for family. That's what should
be in our heart. But when we allow lies, when we harbor lies,
then really you could say our heart is like that den of
thieves. That struck me the other day, the den of thieves. A
heart can be turned ... A soul, mind, will, emotions, can be
turned into a harboring place for the thief. And what are the
thieves? How the enemy comes at us is with a lie. And all of it
comes down to abandon. You have no Father, therefore you have no
Truth. You have no freedom. You have no forgiveness. It matters
what other people do to you, because you have no Father to
protect you. You have no direction. You have no healing.
You have no this, that, and the other. That's all the basis of
his lies, that those lies keep you from living in the Truth.
Those lies, even though we think about sin as that thing we did,
those lies that are implanted in our heart, that's sin too. It's
a different word that's translated, sin. Maybe we'll
have a chance to, opportunity to look at that word, and what it
says about ... It calls it sin, those lies. So let's look, Mom,
in John 17, because here, Jesus told His disciples how to get
rid of unforgiveness and bitterness. When we look at the
pattern for that, we can use the same pattern to get rid of fear.
You see how Jesus did with Jairus. When Jairus had fear in
his heart ... So Jesus said, "Don't fear." So He's telling
him- GLORIA: Stop the fear. KELLIE: "But Jairus, you've got
fear in there. Don't do that," and He replaced it with believe
only. So He did that for Jairus, and He did it in very quick,
short words. Why? Because He needed quick and short because
the baby's dying. The baby's dead. I mean, really, you could
say that too, Mom. Remember when Lindsey was in the hospital with
meningitis? I've told the story about ... They said that about
meningitis, that she had meningitis. I mean, it stunned
me. I really didn't know what meningitis was, but I felt fear
just grip me. What was that fear saying? That fear is saying,
"Your daughter is going to die," and that fear just gripped me. I
knew the Word! I knew the Word says that she would live and not
die, that He had healed her. I knew all that. I've known all
that my whole life. But fear- GLORIA: But you had to take
action. KELLIE: Was lying in my heart. It had a hold in my
heart, and it was keeping the truth that was in my spirit from
coming through my soul. It was keeping it from affecting my
soul. It was keeping it ... If it can't come through your soul,
it can't come through your mouth. GLORIA: You can't have
fear and faith at the same time. KELLIE: No. And the same thing
about a lie, which is all the same thing we're talking about.
You can't have the truth and a lie occupying the same space.
GLORIA: That's right. KELLIE: So He's got to uproot the lie to be
able to come in there with the Truth. Even though He lives in
our spirit, we're talking about our soul, and our mind, our will
and emotions. I want to keep repeating that so we don't get
confused about what we're talking about here. Obviously,
I'm still born again. He's in my spirit, but what's in my
spirit's not coming out of my mouth. I just walked out ...
Because of the Word I know, I knew enough not to say what was
going through my head about my daughter. I knew enough not to
say the fear. But I was having a hard time saying the truth. So I
went out in the hallway, and my sister walked up to me, and I
said, "I refuse fear." I mean, that came out of my heart. Those
words came from Heaven. I wasn't going, "Let's see. What do I
need to do here." It was life or death time, right then. She was
dying, within the moment. The second I said it, it was gone.
That lie was gone. The worry about her life, that she's going
to die, that was gone, and suddenly up out of my mouth came
all this truth about what the Word says. I'm telling my
sister, "She'll live and not die. There's blood between me
and-" All this is coming out without me making an effort, but
the fear, the lie was keeping what was in me from coming out.
If God had not been able to get through to me to deal with the
lie, I really believe Lindsey would have died, because that
broke that. Even when the doctors were telling me, this,
this, this, all bad news. "Your daughter's probably not going to
make it. If she does, blah, blah, blah." I just
sat there thinking, "I understand. I understand.
I understand what you're saying." I said,
"Here's what I know. She will live and not die. Because,"
and I told the doctor calmly. I didn't need to yell at the
doctor. He didn't make her sick. We're giving a way a book called
Know Your Enemy, but you got to know who you're fighting here.
You're not fighting this person, that person. You're dealing with
... First you're dealing with this in here, and then you deal
with that out there. So anyway, in John, He tells us how to do
that. But we see in the Word where it's the same process.
This is a story ... We talked last week about what He was
saying to the disciples in Mark 11, and in Mark 17 it sounds
very similar, the words He's using. But it has the same
affect and the same action as what he was doing in Mark 11. So
it says, "One day, Jesus says to his disciples ..." Actually, you
know what, Mom? I'm going to read this out of the King James.
I like it better. So it says- GLORIA: Okay, it's Chapter and
verse- KELLIE: I'm sorry. Luke 17 ... let's see ... Yeah, 17.
It say's here ... I want to compare these a little bit. In
the King James it says, "It is impossible but that offenses
will come." Offenses are going to come. He's like, "It's going
to happen." But it's interesting, the New Living
calls offenses, "There will be temptations to sin." That's
interesting, isn't it? If somebody offends me, How is that
a temptation for me to sin? If somebody's mean to me, he's
calling it a temptation for me to sin. So, one thing, Mom, I
want to point out before we read this is, when there is a lie in
you, you have a place for Satan to plug into. You have something
that belongs to him, and he will, he can, and he will plug
into it. I can touch you there. I can affect you there. GLORIA:
An opening. KELLIE: An opening. So Jesus is calling this offense
that people come to you with a temptation for you to sin, a
temptation for that thing in you, and it's so funny. If
you've got pride in your heart, somebody will say something to
you, and maybe they didn't even mean it in a rude way, but that
pride, or that offense in you will flare up. They, blah, blah,
blah. Whatever, fill in the blank. It's funny because you
immediately begin fighting that person, instead of understanding
that it doesn't' matter what they say if there's nothing in
here for the enemy to plug into. GLORIA: That's called strife.
KELLIE: Exactly. GLORIA: Strife. And where there's strife,
there's confusion in every evil work. So strife is a big thing
for the devil to use. It's probably his best shot at you.
KELLIE: It's right. You are so right. GLORIA: Your family, your
friends, or whoever you're in strife with. Forgive them. Well,
yeah, you don't know what they did, though." Well, it doesn't
matter what they did to you then. They're doing something to
you now that's completely serious. You forgive ... What
does the Bible say? One verse. "Forgive if you have anything,"
the scripture says, "ought against any." That settles the
issue, and it also makes you go free. KELLIE: It's true. GLORIA:
So that's what you have to do. KELLIE: I love what Dad says
about you. GLORIA: What? KELLIE: He says, "Gloria and I have
never had a fight." He said, "I've had plenty. But Gloria
..." You just don't fight, and you know what? Maybe it's hard
for you to understand those of us that have something in us
coming back. GLORIA: I'm sure if somebody was trying to beat me
up or knock me in the head I'd fight, physically fight. But not
word strife. KELLIE: I'm talking about the strife. What you say
is true. If you can do what we're talking about this week,
strife cannot have a place in your home. And even if someone
else is fighting with you, what will come out of you is the love
of God, and let me tell you, the love of God does not make you
the doormat. The love of God makes you the victor, because if
somebody's coming at you, and you fight back, that's called
strife. They may be striving. You don't have to. If there's no
enemy in you, there's no lie in you that fights back, then what
comes back at that person is love, and love doesn't fail.
Love wins. GLORIA: Praise God. KELLIE: Even in the meantime of
love winning in the relationship, you're free.
You're free of what they did because there's no place to plug
in. This process that he shows us here will show us how to get
free. It says, "Offenses are going to come," and He says,
"It's better for him that a millstone were hung around his
neck and cast into the sea." But then He goes on to say ... He
says that about the person that offends you, but then the very
next thing He says, Mom, is, "Take heed to yourself. Take
heed to yourself." In other words, all of that, that's
between them and God. GLORIA: Don't get in it. KELLIE: Take
heed to yourself. Look inside yourself. If your brother
trespasses against you, this is what we're supposed to do. You
can go talk to him. The New Living says, "Rebuke." Go talk
to them and tell them. You don't have to go wag a finger. You go
talk to them in love. This is something where the Bible talks
about speaking the Truth in love. I just thought you had to
just suck it up and, you know- GLORIA: Take it. KELLIE: Take
it, or just forgive. This gives us the thing to do. Go talk to
them. Go tell them that wasn't right, what you did. But do it
in love or it's not going to do any good. GLORIA: But then our
part is still to forgive. KELLIE: Forgive. Then He says,
forgive. Then it says, "If he trespasses against you seven
times in a day ..." That can sound hard. You may be
sitting, "Seven times in a day? I have people that do that but I
can't forgive them that many times." But you can if you
do what He's talking about. You can't forgive
somebody seven times in a day if the lie of
unforgiveness is on the inside of you. If the lie that it even
matters what they said to you is planted inside of you, if it
matters to the quality of your life, or it matters to what God
can do in your life. Does it mean you won't fulfill your
calling if so and so does this or that? No. No, no, a thousand
times no. If the truth is in you about that, then I can forgive
you. It doesn't mean I have to hang out with you. If you're
going to be abusive or hurtful. My mother's not abusive. But I
mean, if somebody's going to be abusive or hurtful, none of this
means you have to hang out with them if they don't change. But
it says, "Forgive them." GLORIA: "Forgive if you have ought
against any." That leaves nothing out. Anything against
anybody, we're to forgive it. KELLIE: And He says, "If seven
times in a day, they tell you 'I repent,' you forgive," it says.
I think this shocked the apostles because they said,
"Lord, increase my faith." They're like, you may have been
sitting there thinking, "I don't know how to do that." You're
saying really the same thing the apostles said. You're saying
that, but I don't know how to do that. He says to them, "If you
had faith as a grain of mustard seed-" GLORIA: You forgive by
faith. KELLIE: That's right. You will not do any of this that I'm
talking about this week and last week without faith in His Word,
faith in what He's telling us to do. You won't do it without
faith in His Word that says you have to get rid of
unforgiveness. If you feel like you're justified, and we see
that in I John. If you feel like you're justified to have
unforgiveness in your heart because they did this or that,
you're not having faith in what Jesus said. Get it out. But if
you had faith in His Word, "you would say unto this sycamine
tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, be thou planted in the
sea, and it should obey you." I love, love, love ... because I
had been seeing some of these things. I think I'm going to do
this tomorrow with ... This is Rick Renner's Sparkling Gems
word studies on this scripture. I want to pick that up tomorrow,
but I want to describe to you before I go there ... We'll use
the little bit of time we have left today. I want to describe
to you what the Lord was saying to me before I read this. So
when I read this Sparkling Gems, you'll see tomorrow how what the
Lord was showing me was exactly what this scripture's saying.
But he was saying to me, "Kellie, when something flares
up, somebody does something to you, it is a devil poke. It's
the devil going ..." GLORIA: That's a good way to say it. A
devil poke. KELLIE: It's poking. He can't really poke at you, but
he has a right to poke at what belongs to him. GLORIA: It's
called temptation. KELLIE: Temptation to sin, Jesus calls
it. He has a right to poke at the lie in you that you're
harboring. You harbor a den of thieves, he's the author of that
thief. That lie in you, he's the author of it. GLORIA: Satan is.
KELLIE: Yes! And Jesus even said, He talks about you belong
to the devil. Well, I don't belong to the devil. But if I'm
going to harbor a lie, there's a piece of my soul that he's
residing in, I'm giving him a place, and in that sense, I'm
listening to what he is saying. If I harbor a lie, I'm listening
to what he's saying, and in that space, he has become my god.
GLORIA: And you're disobedient because Scripture says, "Give
the devil no place." No place. KELLIE: No place. So if you
become as intent as Jesus wants us to be about getting every lie
out of your heart, suddenly, you really don't mind that somebody
pokes you, because if they can poke you ad something flares up,
that means there's something in you. You begin to not look at,
"This is my enemy. This person's keeping me from doing this. This
person's keeping me from doing that. That person's hurting me.
I can't forgive that. You don't know what they did." All of a
sudden you're realizing if there's a reaction in you to
that, then I've got a lie in here. That's what the Lord
started showing me. Because there was a situation and I was
like, "Well they're doing this, and they don't appreciate this
about me. Don't they know this about me?" One day the Lord
said, "That's pride." I was not looking at my reaction as being
unjustified. I was no looking at my reaction as being the sin in
my life. I'm looking so out here that I'm not looking in here.
Mom, I'm telling you, I can't tell you how this happened other
than the love of Jesus and the Spirit of God to set me free.
But once he said it to me, and we talked about that I John 1:9
talks about confessing your sin, it's really agreeing with Jesus
that He's right about what's in you, and then changing. When He
said that to me about pride, I'm like, "No. I am not going to
keep pride in my heart. You get out of my heart in the name of
Jesus." I cast it out. He was able to continue to cleanse me
of that. I'm telling you, I got so free of this person and that
person, and when you get free of this person and that person, or
what they did, or what they thought, which they may not have
even thought that anyway. Because if there's a lie in your
heart about it, the devil will make you think they thought it.
But you get free of it, and man, love just starts flowing toward
that person. He said, "Pluck it up." So I'm just ... Get it out.
I began to value the times when the devil poked me through
something else, exposed something in me. He exposed fear
in me that day with Lindsey, and I pulled it out. I didn't know
what I was doing, really. There's a story about Emily.
I'll tell that tomorrow. But when you see the flare up and
you start loving it, bring it on. Bring it on. You flare up
something in me, I'm pulling it out and you just lost ... Not
you. The devil just lost a foothold in my heart. GLORIA:
Because you love. KELLIE: Because I'm going to replace
that with the truth. I'm going to replace ... The truth is, God
is Love, and the truth in me is I am too. Because I'm filled
with Him, and the more I'm filling up with Him in my soul,
the more love is coming out. It's a good place to
live. GLORIA: Hallelujah. Kellie and I will be right back.
ANNOUNCER: We hope you enjoyed today's teaching from Kenneth
Copeland Ministries. And remember Jesus is Lord.
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